matagtag po ba talaga ang crosswind?

[kenchi himura]

ask ko lang po kung totoo po bang matagtag pa din ang xwind ngaun kahit na may flexi ride sya and may nabasa din po akong forum saying that xwind daw po ang top sa smoke belching

thanks plan ko po kasi buy ng xwind xt or xti next month

[Bruks_pt]

Yep.. medyo mausok x-wind kahit brand new.. ok naman sya magabsorb ng lubak, but medyo "malikot" nga compared sa ibang SUV. Very good FC though (manual). Congrats sa x-wind mo..

[Benzmizer]

ask ko lang po kung totoo po bang matagtag pa din ang xwind ngaun kahit na may flexi ride sya and may nabasa din po akong forum saying that xwind daw po ang top sa smoke belching

thanks plan ko po kasi buy ng xwind xt or xti next month

Fact that the Crosswind use LEAF SPRINGS for its rear suspension, it is expected that ride isn't as comfortable as to those using rear springs..... Yes, this is despite the notable improvement from it's original suspension design ('01-'04) to the FlexRide Suspension System ('05-current)

Between the Sporty (XUV/Sportivo) and Non-Sporty (XL/XT/XTi) Crosswind models, the latter rides better being a non-lift.

[hinDMaxsiado]

ask ko lang po kung totoo po bang matagtag pa din ang xwind ngaun kahit na may flexi ride sya and may nabasa din po akong forum saying that xwind daw po ang top sa smoke belching

thanks plan ko po kasi buy ng xwind xt or xti next month

Chief, good day.

i saw your enquiry at the "Car Comparison" section re your choices amongst these diesels whether 2.5-litre Toyota Innova, 2.5-litre Isuzu Crosswind and 2.5-litre Mitsubishi Adventure

i take it that you're looking into a budget of around PhP800k to 900k for a decent family car.

If between the Adventure and Crosswind, i will take the Isuzu Crosswind, and my basis is that we have a Crosswind and an also an Adventure, both of which are 2001 model. The Crosswind having travelled extensively from Manila-to-north and back, and Manila-to-south and back is undeniably still road-worthy and going strong like the way it has always been. Not so much to say about the Adventure though; in fact, dini-dispose na or binebenta na nila misis. It has seen more repairs than the Crosswind and it does not even travel rigorously out-of-town as much as the Crosswind.

DON'T forget however to look into the Toyota Innova diesel ---- It is also a good road-performer and knowing Toyota's reputation, it could also be just as dependable as the Isuzu diesels are known for.

Now, to be fair at you chief, and coming from an Isuzu background, my brotherly advice would be BEFORE you take the Crosswind be reminded that the technology you're paying for is an unchanged non-CRDi 2.5-litre 1997 engine ---- Ganyan na katagal yan chief, and this is the reason why i advise you consider the Innova, which is even CRDi engine, and is also 2.5-litre.

Although the Crosswind is extremely reliable and undeniably the undisputed AUV king throughout the years (in fact, even for 2010), it DOES NOT however mean, it is the best diesel vehicle available across all range. Honestly for me, as a family car, and nothing to do much with offroad, the Innova is better than the Crosswind.

Also chief, make no mistake about getting the expensive Crosswind Sportivo version. It also got the same engine spec as the XT or any Crosswind variant there is. The irony is the Sportivo is more expensive than the DMax LS 4x2 manual-transmission that even got a 3-litre CRDi engine which came out in 2004 ---- Way back in 2008, i bought a brand-new DMax LS 4x2 manual-tranny for PhP1.015 M while the Sportivo at that time was PhP1.070 M AND i just can't believe it for an 11-year old technology that time

Huwag kang mag-alala chief sa Crosswind, mas di hamak matagtag ang DMax ahihi

Now chief, if you are looking into say about PhP1.5 M for a family car, get the 2.2-litre Hyundai Santa Fe eVGT (197 metric-hp, 435 Nm torque) ---- It is simply one of the best, together with the 2.2-litre Kia Sorento eVGT.

Just my 2 centavos chief.

Goodluck on your choices

Kind regards.

[hinDMaxsiado]

ask ko lang po kung totoo po bang matagtag pa din ang xwind ngaun kahit na may flexi ride sya and may nabasa din po akong forum saying that xwind daw po ang top sa smoke belching

thanks plan ko po kasi buy ng xwind xt or xti next month

Chief, good day.

i saw your enquiry at the "Car Comparison" section re your choices amongst these diesels whether 2.5-litre Toyota Innova, 2.5-litre Isuzu Crosswind and 2.5-litre Mitsubishi Adventure

i take it that you're looking into a budget of around PhP800k to 900k for a decent family car.

If between the Adventure and Crosswind, i will take the Isuzu Crosswind, and my basis is that we have a Crosswind and an also an Adventure, both of which are 2001 model. The Crosswind having travelled extensively from Manila-to-north and back, and Manila-to-south and back is undeniably still road-worthy and going strong like the way it has always been. Not so much to say about the Adventure though; in fact, dini-dispose na or binebenta na nila misis. It has seen more repairs than the Crosswind and it does not even travel rigorously out-of-town as much as the Crosswind.

DON'T forget however to look into the Toyota Innova diesel ---- It is also a good road-performer and knowing Toyota's reputation, it could also be just as dependable as the Isuzu diesels are known for.

Now, to be fair at you chief, and coming from an Isuzu background, my brotherly advice would be BEFORE you take the Crosswind be reminded that the technology you're paying for is an unchanged non-CRDi 2.5-litre 1997 engine ---- Ganyan na katagal yan chief, and this is the reason why i advise you consider the Innova, which is even CRDi engine, and is also 2.5-litre.

Although the Crosswind is extremely reliable and undeniably the undisputed AUV king throughout the years (in fact, even for 2010), it DOES NOT however mean, it is the best diesel vehicle available across all range. Honestly for me, as a family car, and nothing to do much with offroad, the Innova is better than the Crosswind.

Also chief, make no mistake about getting the expensive Crosswind Sportivo version. It also got the same engine spec as the XT or any Crosswind variant there is. The irony is the Sportivo is more expensive than the DMax LS 4x2 manual-transmission that even got a 3-litre CRDi engine which came out in 2004 ---- Way back in 2008, i bought a brand-new DMax LS 4x2 manual-tranny for PhP1.015 M while the Sportivo at that time was PhP1.070 M AND i just can't believe it for an 11-year old technology that time

Huwag kang mag-alala chief sa Crosswind, mas di hamak matagtag ang DMax ahihi

Now chief, if you are looking into say about PhP1.5 M for a family car, get the 2.2-litre Hyundai Santa Fe eVGT (197 metric-hp, 435 Nm torque) ---- It is simply one of the best, together with the 2.2-litre Kia Sorento eVGT.

Just my 2 centavos chief.

Goodluck on your choices

Kind regards.

[gmgsport]

there are certain models that are "matagtag" like the sportivo & xuv because they have bigger wheels eventhough flexi ride suspensions na. but xl, xt & xti models have a better ride compared to the other models. all crosswind models have the same engine specs, eventhough older compared to crdi-engines it is not expensive when it comes to maintenance. great for family use, has more room to accommodate the whole family compared the adventure & innova. when it comes to the looks, the crosswind still stands out among the two. i agree, the innova has a more powerful engine but when it comes to the looks, crosswind pa rin!...but in the end, it's still up to you!i would say kanya-kanyang preference lng yan no matter how good the other brand is or how people rate it

[Sleepcare]

+1 for gmgsport.

[hinDMaxsiado]

Like the two gentlemen may imply, YUP, by all means, go ahead with the Crosswind and be ready to pay much the same way like you'd be paying for an Innova ---- BUT for a lesser and a 14 year-old engine-technology that is not even fuel-efficient as a matter of fact

Don't believe the statement above coming from a basically Isuzu-loyal family of two Isuzu DMax's, one Crosswind XT, and a fleet of Isuzu 10-wheeler trucks....

Just a tip: Mas malayong malakas at matipid sa consumo ang makina ng Isuzu Alterra or DMax kaysa sa Crosswind. FACT is the Crosswind, nothwitstanding its underpowered engine, is NOT even listed in the 2008 Department of Energy report amongst the Top 10 most fuel-efficient cars in the Philippines....
....The 2.5-litre DMax and the 3-litre Alterra are at the 9th and 10th place, respectively

Wanna see the report?

[joeyboy2kiko]

To all,

Same tanong ko rin po ung title ng thread na to.

Plano kasi namin kumuha ng utol ko ng crosswind, Pang pamilya, maporma, fuel efficient kasi ang hanap namin.

Coming from a very small kia pride, we decided its time to have a big family SUV.

Before XT ang target nmin, ngayon XUV na kasi ung Bnew diff. ng XT at XUV eh 150K na lang. Mas maporma kasi tindig ng XUV kaya target locked na kami dun.

Below are questions;

-Better bang bumili ng Bnew kesa used?

-High DP for low monthly or Low DP for High Monthly?

-Add-on to a new vehicle will spoil the warranty? (like if mag pa install ako ng Subs sa labas)

-Any other options than crosswind xuv/mt with same price range?

-Pwede kayang ipa modify ung Sportivo para maging front facing din ang 3rd row seats, para sana dumami din passenger capacity?

Pasensya na sa mga tanong ko, kuya ko kasi talaga mahilig sa sasakyan, PC kasi talaga hilig kong kalikutin eh ;-D

[joeyboy2kiko]

additional tanong po,

Yes pag dating sa porma panalo talaga XUV, Pero pag dating sa Makina, Ano po comparison ng Crosswind sa Innova at advie?

[Bruks_pt]

Now chief, if you are looking into say about PhP1.5 M for a family car, get the 2.2-litre Hyundai Santa Fe eVGT(197 metric-hp, 435 Nm torque) ---- It is simply one of the best, together with the 2.2-litre Kia Sorento eVGT.

SOrry for OT - but a Japanese engineer who came to the plant where I work drove a 2011 Sorento Diesel (eVGT?) and he was really impressed with its performance. Road to the plant is through winding mountainous 17degree inclines and he loved it.. says a lot, coming from a Japanese.

[Benzmizer]

[QUOTE=joeyboy2kiko;1713096]To all,

Same tanong ko rin po ung title ng thread na to.

Plano kasi namin kumuha ng utol ko ng crosswind, Pang pamilya, maporma, fuel efficient kasi ang hanap namin.

Coming from a very small kia pride, we decided its time to have a big family SUV.

Before XT ang target nmin, ngayon XUV na kasi ung Bnew diff. ng XT at XUV eh 150K na lang. Mas maporma kasi tindig ng XUV kaya target locked na kami dun.

Below are questions;

-Better bang bumili ng Bnew kesa used? - Definitely BRAND NEW

-High DP for low monthly or Low DP for High Monthly? - it would depend on the payee's capacity to pay. If you are particular on the amount of monthly amortization then you'll have to compute backwards based on the desired monthly. The same principle applies if limited naman pang d/p mo but flexible on the monthly. Bottomline is, both cannot be one and the same.

-Add-on to a new vehicle will spoil the warranty? (like if mag pa install ako ng Subs sa labas) - Generally speaking YES but IMHO, some "upgrades" may get away from warranty being void. And sure na void would be drilling on body panels and tapping (particularly splicing) electrical stuff on OEM wiring.

-Any other options than crosswind xuv/mt with same price range? - Hmmm, I'll let others chime in here. For sure, there are a good number of other choices out there. Depende na lang din sa priorities mo (looked for) in a vehicle.

-Pwede kayang ipa modify ung Sportivo para maging front facing din ang 3rd row seats, para sana dumami din passenger capacity? - Huh? Sportivos are ALREADY equipped with 3rd row front facing seats.

Pasensya na sa mga tanong ko, kuya ko kasi talaga mahilig sa sasakyan, PC kasi talaga hilig kong kalikutin eh.


[QUOTE=joeyboy2kiko;1713104]additional tanong po,

Yes pag dating sa porma panalo talaga XUV, Pero pag dating sa Makina, Ano po comparison ng Crosswind sa Innova at advie? - Innova would have an edge in terms of engine tech but Crosswind/Adventure would have an edge on cheaper maintenance.

.... but the Crosswind would have an edge in engine durability.

Hope this helps and good luck!

[Gerbo]

ask ko lang po kung totoo po bang matagtag pa din ang xwind ngaun kahit na may flexi ride sya and may nabasa din po akong forum saying that xwind daw po ang top sa smoke belching

thanks plan ko po kasi buy ng xwind xt or xti next month

Sa tagtag, yes....esp compared to sedans.

Sa smoke belching, lesser na compared to old Crosswind models most likely due to the low-charge turbo installed on most models in the last few years.

[TholitzReloaded]

To all,

Same tanong ko rin po ung title ng thread na to.

Plano kasi namin kumuha ng utol ko ng crosswind, Pang pamilya, maporma, fuel efficient kasi ang hanap namin.

Coming from a very small kia pride, we decided its time to have a big family SUV.

Before XT ang target nmin, ngayon XUV na kasi ung Bnew diff. ng XT at XUV eh 150K na lang. Mas maporma kasi tindig ng XUV kaya target locked na kami dun.

Below are questions;


-Better bang bumili ng Bnew kesa used?

-High DP for low monthly or Low DP for High Monthly?

-Add-on to a new vehicle will spoil the warranty? (like if mag pa install ako ng Subs sa labas)

-Any other options than crosswind xuv/mt with same price range?

-Pwede kayang ipa modify ung Sportivo para maging front facing din ang 3rd row seats, para sana dumami din passenger capacity?

Pasensya na sa mga tanong ko, kuya ko kasi talaga mahilig sa sasakyan, PC kasi talaga hilig kong kalikutin eh ;-D

I say get a used Crosswind XUV or Sportivo, you'll save a lot of money and still get the same engine durability and FC. I know nothing beats brand new but you're still getting the same old engine, body and everything. There's a lot of Sportivo/Crosswind XUV on sale.. just look around.. you may get it for 600-750k a lot of savings for me compared to buying a 1M+ xuv or sportivo.

just my 2 cents.

[hinDMaxsiado]

Sa tagtag, yes....esp compared to sedans.

Sa smoke belching, lesser na compared to old Crosswind models most likely due to the low-charge turbo installed on most models in the last few years.

Puede pang mabawasan ng kaunti chief ang usok ng Crosswind by using Mobil Delvac Gold diesel engine oil.... Aside from this, there's still another benefit, as follows:

Whichever is available, been using either Motul Specific-CRDi 5W-40, Torco 15W-40 SD-5, and Mobil Delvac Gold 5W-40 for the 2008 DMax Ddi-iTEQ. I get them from Isuzu Commonwealth. My top-pick amongst these fully-synthetic lines is the Mobil Delvac because it has the highest TBN (total base no) of 12 compared to the other two.

The good thing about high-TBN is better protection from the effects of our current high-sulphur diesel fuel in Philippines, containing between 300 ppm to 500 ppm sulphur....
---- high sulphur oxidation promotes acidic condition inside the engine, that's why it's always better for our diesel-fed vehicles to use engine oils that have high-base contents to achieve better acid-base neutralisation....

[joeyboy2kiko]

*Benzmizer

Thanks po sa mga sagot...

About sa 3rd row seat ng sportivo, I mean pede kayang gawing side facing ito para mas marami ang makakasakay?

TIA

[Benzmizer]

*Benzmizer

Thanks po sa mga sagot...

About sa 3rd row seat ng sportivo, I mean pede kayang gawing side facing ito para mas marami ang makakasakay?

TIA

Are you looking for a Sportivo M/T? If yes, the aforementioned HAS as side-facing variant. Unfortunately, none available for Sportivo A/T.

[renzo_d10]

*Benzmizer

Thanks po sa mga sagot...

About sa 3rd row seat ng sportivo, I mean pede kayang gawing side facing ito para mas marami ang makakasakay?

TIA

Although the side-facing seats can seat more people, I'd suggest you get the Sportivo variant which has front facing 3rd row seats. Though it seats less, people who will be sitting at the back will be more comfortable as they're in their normal seating arrangement, plus, seating on side facing seats can be really stressful on long drives especially for those whose asses are really big and can't fit comfortably on the foam/chair/etc. etc.

[x-wind]

*Benzmizer

Thanks po sa mga sagot...

About sa 3rd row seat ng sportivo, I mean pede kayang gawing side facing ito para mas marami ang makakasakay?

TIA

you can visit seatmate in mandaluyong and ask for swap. kasi some unit with side facing nag swap for front facing s ikaw on other way around. All bolts and Hole are existing parin naman.