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    #9931
    Quote Originally Posted by aar0nix View Post
    You should write them a letter. Demand for it, not cry in this forum.

    I'd rather use a Euro 2 engine than what they call Euro 4 na wala naman palang DPF (Monterosport, Fortuner, TBZ, even Everest). Pretty useless standard applied here in the Philippines if you think about it in retrospect.
    in your mindset since your been mislead buying euro 2 engine but in greater perspective is our environment will suffer. its a matter of how we help our environment [emoji100] [emoji100]

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    #9932
    Quote Originally Posted by Janemar View Post
    Di naman kelangan may dpf para maging euro 4. As long as pasok sa standard ni E4 ag emmision ng isang oto, ok na yun. Di naman ung "DPF" lang ang nagcacause para maging euro 4 ang makina. It's the total package of the engine and exhaust.

    Nung araw nilalagyan pa ng DPF mga 1st gen and 2nd gen crdi para maging euro 4 standard. Ngaun since 3rd gen CRDi na lumabas, clean burn na sya with help of piezo injectors, higher pressure rail, better engine design, etc.. Kaya di na rin need ng dpf to pass euro 4 standard. Ok na rin ito since less maintenance vs with ones with DPF. To add, mas pumino na rin ang tunog ng makina.

    Current gen SUV(fort, monty, eve) euro 4 engines as their lowest spec.

    Sa ibang bansa they add DPF to pass Euro 5 standard. On other contries na Euro 6 requirement like austrlia, they even add DPF and SCR.
    I might have overlooked that, but generally countries with strict emission standards required Euro 4 vehicles to have dpfs - see Australia, UK. If the Philippine government wants cleaner air, there are tons of vehicles on the road that are not even Euro 1 compliant.
    Quote Originally Posted by jamesdeakins View Post
    in your mindset since your been mislead buying euro 2 engine but in greater perspective is our environment will suffer. its a matter of how we help our environment [emoji100] [emoji100]
    Let's not be hypocrites here. If you want to save the environment, stop using your diesel cars. Use bicycles instead.

    But that is anti progress.

    Which brings us back to using our cars. And contributing to pollution. You lessen the pollution but you are still contributing to it. So you are a hypocrite.

    So can anybody tell me which vehicles on the road pollute the environment more than the Euro 2 engines being offered by Isuzu? Buses? Jeepneys? Trucks? Cars?
    _____

    If you guys really want something "cleaner", then don't buy an Isuzu, it's as simple as that. It's pointless really to argue if what we are talking about here is for nothing.

    Welcome to the Philippines!

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    #9933
    Quote Originally Posted by aar0nix View Post
    I might have overlooked that, but generally countries with strict emission standards required Euro 4 vehicles to have dpfs - see Australia, UK. If the Philippine government wants cleaner air, there are tons of vehicles on the road that are not even Euro 1 compliant.

    Let's not be hypocrites here. If you want to save the environment, stop using your diesel cars. Use bicycles instead.

    But that is anti progress.

    Which brings us back to using our cars. And contributing to pollution. You lessen the pollution but you are still contributing to it. So you are a hypocrite.

    So can anybody tell me which vehicles on the road pollute the environment more than the Euro 2 engines being offered by Isuzu? Buses? Jeepneys? Trucks? Cars?
    _____

    If you guys really want something "cleaner", then don't buy an Isuzu, it's as simple as that. It's pointless really to argue if what we are talking about here is for nothing.

    Welcome to the Philippines!
    chill bro climate change is real lets applause DENR for this. [emoji106]

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    #9934
    Hindi naman ako napikon sa flamebait niya. Naaliw pa nga ako eh.

    Anyway I dont get the top speed thing. Unang una its very unsettling for the driver. Pangalawa may speed limit. Mas importante for me ang 0 to 60, 0 to 100 at 80 to 120 times. Useable yan.[/QUOTE]

    Yehs, very usable na and speed 120kph. Safe & cooler.

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    #9935
    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
    still another case of misleading title. para bang i-se-sale ang Mux na Euro 2 this coming ghost month tapos this article is going to help them dispose stocks .

    Then Isuzu manufacturing must stop fabrication of EURO 2 engine, dispose all euro 2 and introduce the EURO 4 engine.

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    #9936
    Quote Originally Posted by Jon.jonn View Post
    Then Isuzu manufacturing must stop fabrication of EURO 2 engine, dispose all euro 2 and introduce the EURO 4 engine.
    blue power na nga ang manufscture sa Thailand ngaun, yan mga binebenta ngaun dito satin mga old stock yan ng thailand, hindi nila maubos-maubos eh ma-overtaken ka ba ng Fort na 13k units since January and 5k units ng Monty, pababa ng pababa ang sales ng Mux eh kasi naman mahal pa din benta nila fito not at par naman sa engines ng other leading PPVs

    bagsak na nila presyo hanggang Dec na lang sila mag-dispose as well as crosswind

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    #9937
    Quote Originally Posted by Jon.jonn View Post
    Then Isuzu manufacturing must stop fabrication of EURO 2 engine, dispose all euro 2 and introduce the EURO 4 engine.
    we can still use our mux even euro 2 lang but what i dont like is bebentahan ka ng more than a million suv then euro 2 lang sya then they will release sa 2018 yung euro 4 engine nila.. if i will buy mux, iam in dilema if i choose to buy now or wait until 2018 kaso yung excise tax malamang next year

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    #9938
    Euro 2, euro4, euro5, euro 6... so nice to hear to show concern for mother nature. But what good will that do if more and more di and crdi owners continue the practice of blanking their EGR units just to save on future maintenance repairs/replacements?

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    #9939
    In the unlikely scenario that the government cracks down on existing non-Euro 4 units, would anybody know if there are aftermarket accessories for the MuX Euro 2 units to achieve Euro 4 standards (i.e. Catalytic converter)?

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    #9940
    Quote Originally Posted by mikhael View Post
    In the unlikely scenario that the government cracks down on existing non-Euro 4 units, would anybody know if there are aftermarket accessories for the MuX European 2 units to achieve Euro 4 standards (i.e. Catalytic converter)?
    they will only target carmakers imo

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    Last edited by StockEngine; June 26th, 2017 at 10:59 PM.

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