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    #10601
    Quote Originally Posted by Caracter View Post
    Congrats on your BluePower Djerms, may roof mounted surround speakers na ba at cabin air filter na included? I saw kasi sa Bangkok motorshow na meron yung version nila.
    Thanks. Not sure about the cabin filter. No roof mounted speakers. Bummer.

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    #10602
    as usual trimmed version ulit un sa tin

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    #10603
    Nice!

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    #10604
    Quote Originally Posted by Djerms View Post
    Thanks. Not sure about the cabin filter. No roof mounted speakers. Bummer.
    Ok lang walang roof surround speakers baka rin masira agad suspension ng speakers sa sobrang init pero sana sinama na nila yung utility box kasi mas important yun at sa price na 1.598M i'm sure kaya nila include yun. Na-try mo ba yung hill decent sa Baguio? Sabi kasi you select speed by applying brake then it will maintain the selected speed uponreleasing the brake pedal. Sa Ford kasi yung sport mode ng tranny nagda-downshift when going downhill no need to shift manually.

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    #10605
    Quote Originally Posted by Caracter View Post
    Ok lang walang roof surround speakers baka rin masira agad suspension ng speakers sa sobrang init pero sana sinama na nila yung utility box kasi mas important yun at sa price na 1.598M i'm sure kaya nila include yun. Na-try mo ba yung hill decent sa Baguio? Sabi kasi you select speed by applying brake then it will maintain the selected speed uponreleasing the brake pedal. Sa Ford kasi yung sport mode ng tranny nagda-downshift when going downhill no need to shift manually.
    No need to manipulate downhill sa baguio. Maganda ang responsive ang engine braking nitong new Mux compared to my old 5 Sp Mux. Siguro dahil 6speed na siya? Not sure pero ok na ok ang grade logic niya.

    Re HDC, nasubukan ko siya sa isang pababa sa village namin. Cool feature, not sure lang when and where to use it. I think mas applicable ito for the 4x4 model.

    Agree re the utility box inclusion.

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    #10606
    Quote Originally Posted by Djerms View Post
    No need to manipulate downhill sa baguio. Maganda ang responsive ang engine braking nitong new Mux compared to my old 5 Sp Mux. Siguro dahil 6speed na siya? Not sure pero ok na ok ang grade logic niya.

    Re HDC, nasubukan ko siya sa isang pababa sa village namin. Cool feature, not sure lang when and where to use it. I think mas applicable ito for the 4x4 model.

    Agree re the utility box inclusion.
    Good to hear na ok ang grade logic ng new 6 speed i think same Aisin ang manufacturer ng tranny ng BluePower and 6 speed ng Fort. Do yoi think same lang sila ng gear ratio and shifting mode minus the jerk ng Fort?
    Sana lahat ng buyers ng BluePower would demand the inclusion of the utility box para mapilitan ang IPC na gawing standard ammenity, anyway wala namang discount given.

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    #10607
    Quote Originally Posted by Caracter View Post
    Good to hear na ok ang grade logic ng new 6 speed i think same Aisin ang manufacturer ng tranny ng BluePower and 6 speed ng Fort. Do yoi think same lang sila ng gear ratio and shifting mode minus the jerk ng Fort?
    Sana lahat ng buyers ng BluePower would demand the inclusion of the utility box para mapilitan ang IPC na gawing standard ammenity, anyway wala namang discount given.
    No jerking issue sa mux. I still feel it in my fort tho even after reprogramming. Sa mux smooth shifting but the 1st gear still long hehe. Sa 3rd gear montalaga pwede ibaon. That torque band 1800 to 2800 rpm is a good wide one.

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    #10608
    Quote Originally Posted by Djerms View Post
    No jerking issue sa mux. I still feel it in my fort tho even after reprogramming. Sa mux smooth shifting but the 1st gear still long hehe. Sa 3rd gear montalaga pwede ibaon. That torque band 1800 to 2800 rpm is a good wide one.
    That's way better than Fort's short torque band of 400Nm from 1,600-2,000 rpm.

    The long 1st gear is due to its higher ratio with respect to the final drive as compared to the Everest and Montero with almost the same final drive but has lower 1st gear ratio.

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    #10609
    Quote Originally Posted by Caracter View Post
    That's way better than Fort's short torque band of 400Nm from 1,600-2,000 rpm.

    The long 1st gear is due to its higher ratio with respect to the final drive as compared to the Everest and Montero with almost the same final drive but has lower 1st gear ratio.
    315nm wheel torq fort
    vs
    360nm wheel torq mux...

    😉

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    #10610
    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    315nm wheel torq fort
    vs
    360nm wheel torq mux...

    😉

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    And yet buyers of fortuners believe that they are getting 450nm of torque. Lol. Kaya nga nung na drive ko ang fort parang...yun na yun?

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    #10611
    Quote Originally Posted by Djerms View Post
    And yet buyers of fortuners believe that they are getting 450nm of torque. Lol. Kaya nga nung na drive ko ang fort parang...yun na yun?
    actually hindi mo naman masyado ramdam yan e. sa Mux ko minsan paakyat ako sa moa need ko bwelo para hindi bitin halos half na apak ko sa accelelator. depende sa diskarte mo bro. wag ntin isipin nadaya buyer ng fort malay mo baka matalo pa tayo nyan sa takbuhan.

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    #10612
    Quote Originally Posted by JMS12 View Post
    actually hindi mo naman masyado ramdam yan e. sa Mux ko minsan paakyat ako sa moa need ko bwelo para hindi bitin halos half na apak ko sa accelelator. depende sa diskarte mo bro. wag ntin isipin nadaya buyer ng fort malay mo baka matalo pa tayo nyan sa takbuhan.

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    Well I dont speak for other buyers pero ako as a fort owner palagay ko na marketing ploy ako ng fort.

    Paakyat ko sa MOA hindi ko na kailangan bumuwelo mapa fort or MUX (even the 2.5) ang dala ko. Yup nasa driver yan bro.

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    #10613
    Quote Originally Posted by Djerms View Post
    Well I dont speak for other buyers pero ako as a fort owner palagay ko na marketing ploy ako ng fort.

    Paakyat ko sa MOA hindi ko na kailangan bumuwelo mapa fort or MUX (even the 2.5) ang dala ko. Yup nasa driver yan bro.
    basta ako happy ako sa mux ko sa tingin ko sulit naman buy ko dito. Aanhin ko sangkaterba gadget kung pag nasira e gastos sa pagpapagawa di ba? pang masa tayo e at minsan pwede din pamporma.. haha

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    #10614
    Quote Originally Posted by Djerms View Post
    Well I dont speak for other buyers pero ako as a fort owner palagay ko na marketing ploy ako ng fort.

    Paakyat ko sa MOA hindi ko na kailangan bumuwelo mapa fort or MUX (even the 2.5) ang dala ko. Yup nasa driver yan bro.
    that would depend, po.
    one can make a conclusion at the first month of ownership, kung na-marketing ploy kayo.
    then, after 5 years, evaluate and decide again, based on those 5 years' experience, kung na-marketing ploy nga kayo.

    sometimes kasi, it is the novelty of the car, that is confused for "something else".

    pa-akyat sa MOA or any other multi-storey parking building, with a car that size, buwelo is not the issue. size is.
    heh heh.

    my opinion.
    Last edited by dr. d; November 2nd, 2017 at 09:13 AM.

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    #10615
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    that would depend, po.
    one can make a conclusion at the first month of ownership, kung na-marketing ploy kayo.
    then, after 5 years, evaluate and decide again, based on those 5 years' experience, kung na-marketing ploy nga kayo.

    sometimes kasi, it is the novelty of the car, that is confused for "something else".
    Well it also depends on the preference of the owner. How he intends to use it. I bought the fortuner supposedly for daily beating and for long trips. Turns out all I like about it is its interior. I tend to use the mux andmy prado for daily use for comfort....and more comfort. I guess yan ang preference ko. But for those who want a more sporty city driving experience, ok naman ang fort. Short bursts ang upside niya. Pero for long stretches, that sub 140whp and 315wtoque doesnt do it any good. Yubg 2.8 4wd model pwede pa.

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    #10616
    Quote Originally Posted by Djerms View Post
    Well it also depends on the preference of the owner. How he intends to use it. I bought the fortuner supposedly for daily beating and for long trips. Turns out all I like about it is its interior. I tend to use the mux andmy prado for daily use for comfort....and more comfort. I guess yan ang preference ko. But for those who want a more sporty city driving experience, ok naman ang fort. Short bursts ang upside niya. Pero for long stretches, that sub 140whp and 315wtoque doesnt do it any good. Yubg 2.8 4wd model pwede pa.
    precisely, sir.
    the first few weeks of ownership, is, to me, largely knee-jerk-response.
    it is after repeated use over a longer period of time, do we get to appreciate the car's shortcomings as well as its long-comings.

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    #10617
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    precisely, sir.
    the first few weeks of ownership, is, to me, largely knee-jerk-response.
    it is after repeated use over a longer period of time, do we get to appreciate the car's shortcomings as well as its long-comings.
    Yung fort ko was a 2016 model so we owned it for more than a year na. Hehe. I think I pretty much have a feeling na of its ownership. Yung mux ko naman since 2015 yan. Spartan yes but really like how ot rides. And sa mga nagsasabi na tahimik ang fort, yes on idle pero pag inapakan mo, mas maingay siya kesa sa 2.5 mux.

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    #10618
    Quote Originally Posted by Djerms View Post
    Yung fort ko was a 2016 model so we owned it for more than a year na. Hehe. I think I pretty much have a feeling na of its ownership. Yung mux ko naman since 2015 yan. Spartan yes but really like how ot rides. And sa mga nagsasabi na tahimik ang fort, yes on idle pero pag inapakan mo, mas maingay siya kesa sa 2.5 mux.
    Paps... in terms of overall performance.... which is better?

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    #10619
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    Paps... in terms of overall performance.... which is better?
    Mux 2.5 vs fort 2.4. Mas lazy ang mux sa lower revs but 0 to 100 times the same at around 13 secs.

    Mux 3.0 blue has the same 0 to 100 times with montero at 11 secs.

    Pag performance kasi I relate it to engine. Sa SUV naman I want good comfort not much on the sporty stiff side. Otherwise I wouldve bought a crossover.

    As Ive said, and this is coming from a fortuner owner, overpriced ang fort. I dont see any value here except for parts availabilityband repair networks of toyota.

    Montero and mux ang previous option ko. Yes another mux and not a fortuner because I like my 2015mux better than my 2016 fort.

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    #10620
    Out of Topic po.nakuha na namin ung unit 3.0 blue power

    Question ko lang po panu po i on ung ESC at Hill Descent Control?

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