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    Looking at it positively I hope to see the new Alterra soon. And how it will stand amongst its competitors.

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    Nag-uubos na ng current model Alterra ang IPC. An agent in Alabang told my boss that the MU-X will be released next month. She was told of this info when she requested for a test drive of the current 4x2 AT alterra. Wait na lang daw next month.

    And I think its true, website auto-searchphilippines.com indicated an "last few units remaining" sa price ng alterra.

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    Saw this model here in Thailand. Maganda yung exterior niya.

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    thanks for the update

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    Sorry no time to backread. New engine na ba to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leodawesome View Post
    Sorry no time to backread. New engine na ba to?
    We will not get the euro5 engine from UK which is the 2.5L 400Nm engine. This is for the Dmax anyways.

    Most likely we will get the 3.0 VGS 120kw/380Nm engine. Same as Au and Th versions.

    There is a 2.5L with 320Nm engine available...not sure if this will be offered also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    We will not get the euro5 engine from UK which is the 2.5L 400Nm engine. This is for the Dmax anyways.

    Most likely we will get the 3.0 VGS 120kw/380Nm engine. Same as Au and Th versions.

    There is a 2.5L with 320Nm engine available...not sure if this will be offered also.
    According to Chevy Commonwealth's owner (also the owner of the Inteco dealerships), most likely the engines of the new Alterra/MU-X will be the current engine of the current D-Max. Sadly for the Philippines, Isuzu might not release the VGS equipped 4JJ1-TCX until our fuel standards will be at Euro 4 levels. Di bale in 2 years Euro 4 standard na tayo.

    Also, been reading many comparos of the Trailblazer and MU-X made by Australian sites. Medyo magulo nga lang pagdating sa rel time fuel efficiency. Some sites would say that the Trailblazer is more fuel efficient in real time, with 9.8L per 100 km as tested, with the Alterra at 10.1L per 100 km as tested. Some would say otherwise, Alterra has 8.8L per 100 km as tested, with the Trailblazer having the same 9.8L per 100 km as tested.

    Sa mga nababasa kong Australian comparos between the 2 twin SUVs, I can list the pros of the 2 twins according to what I have read:

    Trailblazer pros:
    - More powerful engine
    - More standard safety features because of the Hill Descent Control and Hill Start Assist (Alterra doesn't have those)
    - Smoother shifting transmission
    - Bigger wheels and tires
    - More body control during cornering
    - Limited Slip Differential as standard
    - Higher water wading capability at 800 mm
    - Better smartphone interconnectivity due to the MyLink

    Alterra pros
    - Better interior
    - Better riding comfort
    - Quieter engine
    - Better exterior (though I hate the chrome grill, my opinion only ofcourse)
    - Better off-road manners
    - Better in-car entertainment system because of the drop down rear monitor (sana ganun din paglabas ng Alterra dito sa Pilipinas)

    Apparently, the comparo reviews did not compare the 3rd row seats of both. They all said that both the Trailblazer and Alterra has decent 3rd row space for 2 adults. This is as far as I can go muna

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    First week of September daw ang release ng Alterra and the same agent in Alabang told my boss na "merong mas mura kasi may 2.5 na engine." So its either were getting the new engines or they'll put Crosswind/Sportivo's 4JA1 engine. LOL

    Me and my boss are both into Alterra, although sa 2nd hand market kasi wala ko pambili ng brand new. hehe! And personally, sana new engine na lang sa current Urban Cruiser body ang gawin, parang mas may "prestige" kasi. Especially yung length, which I think only the Everest and patrol can rival.

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    First week of September daw ang release ng Alterra and the same agent in Alabang told my boss na "merong mas mura kasi may 2.5 na engine." So its either were getting the new engines or they'll put Crosswind/Sportivo's 4JA1 engine. LOL

    Me and my boss are both into Alterra, although sa 2nd hand market ako kasi wala ko pambili ng brand new. hehe! And personally, sana new engine na lang sa current Urban Cruiser body ang gawin, parang mas may "prestige" kasi. Especially yung length, which I think only the Everest and patrol can rival.

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    Length wise ng cabin, Alterra pa din ang longest among its class.

    Kita mo yong legroom ng 1st to 3rd row, very spacious. Although sa 3rd row, di comfortable umupo lalo pag adults ka na.

    The luggage space after the 3rd row is also top notch.


    My gripes sa mga current coil-sprung SUVs except Eve and Alterra eh they seem to budge when loaded kahit di naman totally loaded - like 7-adult passengers lang eh dapa agad ang suspension. This is very uneasy for long drive tapos malubak pa.

    Sobra lambot ng mga suspension.

    I am eyeing talaga the current Alterra or the Eve for utility use. Pang-harabas kumbaga.

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    Old engine or new engine, the new Alterra will still sell. Basta wag lang magscrimp sa features para makapag cost cutting.

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    Based sa mga nabasa kong reviews locally sa Top Gear and Autoindustriya, the engine of the current Dmax and that of the outgoing Alterra is underrated. The pulling power feels more than the paper spec of 146hp.

    Ok lang ako kung current engine. Tested na yan eh. Walang problem.

    Pero kung speed demons ka sa Expressways, better look at other cars.

    I have an 07 SF and I never go beyond 120kph sa NLEX. Mahirap humataw pag kasama mo mga loved ones mo onboard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nels76 View Post
    Based sa mga nabasa kong reviews locally sa Top Gear and Autoindustriya, the engine of the current Dmax and that of the outgoing Alterra is underrated. The pulling power feels more than the paper spec of 146hp.

    Ok lang ako kung current engine. Tested na yan eh. Walang problem.

    Pero kung speed demons ka sa Expressways, better look at other cars.

    I have an 07 SF and I never go beyond 120kph sa NLEX. Mahirap humataw pag kasama mo mga loved ones mo onboard.
    nagtataka din nga ako, I tried a Montero 2012, Fortuner 2013, and Alterra 2005.

    mas malakas parin ang hatak ng Alterra. But when I read the specs, pinaka mahina ang Alterra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    I wonder how many whp the Alterra makes on the dyno. According to Speedlab, the Fortuner 3.0 only makes around 120whp. Maybe despite the lesser outright crank hp, the Alterra has less drivetrain loss?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mykpogi View Post
    nagtataka din nga ako, I tried a Montero 2012, Fortuner 2013, and Alterra 2005.

    mas malakas parin ang hatak ng Alterra. But when I read the specs, pinaka mahina ang Alterra.
    I read somewhere before (don't remember if from dmax of tsikot) na Alterra/dmax uses the dyno whp while mitsu and toyota uses the theoritical whp. So iba nga kapag na-dyno sila. Tapos long-stroke pa so malakas sa low-end grunt kaya fuel effiicient pa. But it would indeed be nice if the 380nm engine would be brought here na din. kahit de-tuned pa nang kunti to accomodate dirty diesels in the provinces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    I read somewhere before (don't remember if from dmax of tsikot) na Alterra/dmax uses the dyno whp while mitsu and toyota uses the theoritical whp. So iba nga kapag na-dyno sila. Tapos long-stroke pa so malakas sa low-end grunt kaya fuel effiicient pa. But it would indeed be nice if the 380nm engine would be brought here na din. kahit de-tuned pa nang kunti to accomodate dirty diesels in the provinces.
    this is interesting. i hope ma check din whp ng alterra or dmax.

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    *mykpogi: Ganyan din ang sabi ng uncle ko when he borrowed my truck kasi may kailangan buhatin na mga sacks with soil. Siya ang pina drive ko. Sabi niya na hindi niya ini expect na malakas humatak ang makina niya considering 4x2 lang. Sabi niya, "Ang lakas pala humatak nito." One of his vehicles is a 4x4 Montero GLS SE.

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    At least dadating nadin ang MU-X on our shores, finally. Sa Thailand lang ang nakakakita nito. Maganda nga siya. It has an appeal that I can't explain basta type ko lang.

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    *nels76: Underrated talaga ang 4JJ1 engine, sir. Kung titignan mo ang specs niya, hindi ka mai impress and you will look on other brand na mas flowery ang specs. Pero once you have driven it, diyan mo lang mararamdaman that the engine really means business and it's not something na lalamya lamya dahil mukhang mahina sa papel.

    Yes, kung ang hanap ng isang buyer is acceleration, better not look at the Dmax kasi hindi mabilis ang acceleration niya. Pero it doesn't mean na sobrang bagal din naman. Once na naka bwelo na yan, hindi ka niyan iiwanan kahit umabot ka pa ng 180 kph. Lalo pag aggressive pa ung driver, pwedeng hindi ka niya maunahan pero bubuntutan ka lang niya and konting menor mo lang, uunahan ka na.

    Mas lalo mo pong maa appreciate ang engine niya pag fully loaded and uphill. Diyan ko gustong gusto ang 4JJ1 engine. 2k rpm is all I need to propel the truck. Grabe ang pulling power.

    As to the "tested and walang problems", I could say that so far my 4JJ1 is very reliable and "NOT" that problematic kasi siyempre nagka problem din noon. After naayos ung mga tunog noon, ok na ulit. And that is after 6 yrs of ownership and more than 110k kms traveled.

    That's why sana dalhin nila dito kahit ung TCX manlang. Imagine an engine that only has 146 hp performs like that, paano pa kaya ung 160 hp na TCX. Mas masarap siguradong idrive un.

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    I wonder how many whp the Alterra makes on the dyno. According to Speedlab, the Fortuner 3.0 only makes around 120whp. Maybe despite the lesser outright crank hp, the Alterra has less drivetrain loss?

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    Kung out of stock pyesa sa chevy , pwede kaya bumili sa isuzu?


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