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    #2831
    Quote Originally Posted by macsd View Post

    So what will be the problem then kung tatakbo naman pala, mausok ba, parang palyado , may madaling masisira , etc ??
    If you dont have a dpf, no problem. In fact its beneficial for the rest of the fuel and exhaust system since you are using a cleaner fuel.

    Euro 2 tuned vehicles do not have dpf afaik. In short, when your vehicle is detuned euro 2, its more flexible to fuels.

    Euro 4 tuned vehicles should stay away from euro 2 fuels. Euro 2 tuned vehicles can use euro 2 and euro 4 fuels.

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    #2832
    To those who will undergonoil change in casa, i suggest you tell them to pour in 6.3 liters of oil first. Then do adjustments on your own. The manual says 7 liters for 4x2 but a normal drain will not take all your oil out.

    Since my oil is half an inch above the max dot, I had some oil removed. We got 300ml out and the level is still a tad above the max. HTH.

    Total oil they put in my mux was 6.8 liters. I drained 300ml. I think its just about right as i assume theres 500ml left after a drain.

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    #2833
    Quote Originally Posted by macsd View Post
    What's the deal here, hindi ba tatakbo ang MUX once nag shift to Euro 4 compliant Diesel ang mga oil companies ? How about in other countries like Australia & Thailand that has MUX as well, hindi din ba sila Euro 4 compliant ? It seem's by that EVP statement naka isolate ang problem dito lang sa pinas, totally rediculous.
    yan din nga concern ko, panu pag all euro 4 diesel na lang available dito sa pinas? di kaya magka leche leche ang fuel system ng 2.5 L engine? main concern ko ang "high presure fuel pump" baka mag wear agad.

    baka euro 4 compliant ang 3.0L ng mu-x sa down under.
    Last edited by weisshorn; September 24th, 2015 at 09:01 PM.

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    #2834
    Quote Originally Posted by airborn65 View Post
    Even Isuzu EVP admitted that it will take at least 2 years to prepare their vehicles to comply with Euro IV emission standard. Euro 4 on July 1 ‘impossible’ – DOE | The Manila Times Online
    Quote Originally Posted by Djerms View Post
    If you dont have a dpf, no problem. In fact its beneficial for the rest of the fuel and exhaust system since you are using a cleaner fuel.

    Euro 2 tuned vehicles do not have dpf afaik. In short, when your vehicle is detuned euro 2, its more flexible to fuels.

    Euro 4 tuned vehicles should stay away from euro 2 fuels. Euro 2 tuned vehicles can use euro 2 and euro 4 fuels.
    Timeout. Parang conflict yata yung mga statement, yung isa hindi pa ready for euro 4 while the other is if euro 2 tuned pwede din euro 4. Now i get more confused. Ano ba ang MUX dito, Euro 1 o 3 ?

    Meron din nag state here (i don't know how true), sa Thailand Euro 4 na sila. If such is the case, then i would assume all is the same except that one is left hand drive while the other is right hand drive since made in Thailand ang mga MUX dito.

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    #2835
    Quote Originally Posted by Luap View Post
    Wala bang sayad pag lumiliko ka? Medyo malaki na yang gulong mo. Im planning to change my tyres to 265/50/r20 sana
    Hibdi naman sumasayad even puno at total steer may clearance pa na 1/4 inch sa ocer steer

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    #2836
    IPC has been using detuned 4JJ1-TC for years already. 2004 pa yata lumabas yung 4JJ1 VGS na Euro IV compliant sa kanila. Detuned yung dinadala dito, but we're not sure kung gaano ka extensive yung modifications na ginawa para ma detune to Euro II. If tinanggal lang ba ang DPF or pati sa fuel system at exhaust iba din. Technically we have the 2.5 4JK1-TC (Hi instead of X) kasi siguro naka reserve yung TCX sa Euro IV version.

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    #2837
    Quote Originally Posted by macsd View Post
    Timeout. Parang conflict yata yung mga statement, yung isa hindi pa ready for euro 4 while the other is if euro 2 tuned pwede din euro 4. Now i get more confused. Ano ba ang MUX dito, Euro 1 o 3 ?

    Meron din nag state here (i don't know how true), sa Thailand Euro 4 na sila. If such is the case, then i would assume all is the same except that one is left hand drive while the other is right hand drive since made in Thailand ang mga MUX dito.
    Euro 2 ang 2.5vgs ng pinas. Higher compression ratio compared to euro4 2.5vgs sa thailand.

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    #2838
    We always get the lower end euro2 engines. If euro 4 fuels lang available by 2016, we better wait and see.

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    #2839
    Quote Originally Posted by dos2 View Post
    Di ba pwede yung quotation via email?
    Pwede naman siguro sir, pero nagiinquire ako wala namang nagemail sa akin nung mga discounts and freebies verbal lang lahat.

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    #2840
    Quote Originally Posted by macsd View Post
    Timeout. Parang conflict yata yung mga statement, yung isa hindi pa ready for euro 4 while the other is if euro 2 tuned pwede din euro 4. Now i get more confused. Ano ba ang MUX dito, Euro 1 o 3 ?

    Meron din nag state here (i don't know how true), sa Thailand Euro 4 na sila. If such is the case, then i would assume all is the same except that one is left hand drive while the other is right hand drive since made in Thailand ang mga MUX dito.
    Just my two cents, unless the car manufacturers themselves issue an official statement regarding compliance or non-compliance of their vehicles to Euro IV emission standards and its effects, expect the confusion to continue especially among prospective car buyers,. One thing for sure, the standard norm in major countries is Euro IV as minimum, it is unfortunate that PH has lagged far behind its counterparts in the implementation of Clean Air Act. Can't blame the car manufacturers if they continue to bring in or import Euro II standard vehicles as major oil players are even slower in providing Euro IV standard fuels NATIONWIDE. From business point of view, car manufacturers will obviously target NATIONWIDE sales rather than concentrate on NCR sales. Thus, if the government will not take concrete steps to fully implement and pressure oil players to provide Euro IV fuels nationwide, car manufacturers will likely continue bringing in Euro II standard vehicles. But in the end, it will be the consumers that will eventually shoulder all the additional expenses in upgrading/retrofitting their Euro II standard vehicles to comply with Euro IV standards especially when Euro II fuels are phased out in the future.

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