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[Djerms]

Based on current DENR Administrative Order No. 2015-04 (DAO-2015-04)EMB-AQMS > NEWS3

It seems that the issue now is not whether the old Euro II engines can take in Euro IV standard fuels but its the compliance to DAO 2015-04 that is worrying car manufacturers, existing car owners and prospective car buyers.

New DENR Euro 4 rule worries vehicle makers | Inquirer Business

Vehicle assemblers want to postpone Euro 4 compliance | Business, News, The Philippine Star | philstar.com

I guess you are right with your advice that prospective car buyers should postpone their purchase until next year or just stick to Euro IV compliant models to avoid future problems.

Valid point of concern although I think there will be a fair compromise. They should arrive at one or else there will be no more vehicles left except for new ones in 2016 that will comply with eu4 standards hehehe. If they uphold the DAO interpretation, lets prepare for carmageddon.

Anyway, no point in worrying. We are in the Philippines after all where laws exist and enforcement is nil.

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Based on this news there will be no retroactive application for bought vehicles so I guess this is only a problem of the manufacturers specially those who have remaining stocks of eu2 vehicles and those who have manufacturing plants here.

http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/denr-wont-delay-euro-4-enforcement/

[LancerA174A]

Another concern din nga po paano yung mga newly bought (1-3 year old) cars na Euro II compliant, magkakaroon ba ng mga retrofitting kits para maging Euro IV compliant, or magiiba ba ang babayarang fees and procedure pagdating ng registration?

[Djerms]

Another concern din nga po paano yung mga newly bought (1-3 year old) cars na Euro II compliant, magkakaroon ba ng mga retrofitting kits para maging Euro IV compliant, or magiiba ba ang babayarang fees and procedure pagdating ng registration?

Bro pls reload yung link na pinost ko sa taas. Its not retroactive so hindi affected yung purchased vehicles before jan 2016. Ang affected lang is new and current models to be released or imported in 2016

[LancerA174A]

Bro pls reload yung link na pinost ko sa taas. Its not retroactive so hindi affected yung purchased vehicles before jan 2016. Ang affected lang is new and current models to be released or imported in 2016

Ah I see, ang intindi ko po kasi pinapa postpone muna nila para maubos muna yung current stocks. But they didn't mention if ano pwede gawin ng owners para tumaas din ang Euro compliance.

[weisshorn]

Tumpak! Or sa mga napapraning sa euro 4, wag nalang muna kayo magsibili ng sasakyan hehehe.

tumpak ka sir kaya di ako bumili ng mu-x. nakikiramdam ano mangyari next year.

[weisshorn]

Well Im also saying based on personal and other people's experience, walang problema sa long time exclusive use ng euro4 on euro 2 engines. I've yet to see local users na nagkaroon ng problema...well bukod tanging ikaw lang pala sir as you said.

Hala paano na yan next year wala ka na makukunan ng euro 2 fuels?

no problem sir. my 2014 KIA Carens can handle euro 4 diesel sold na po ang 4ja1 powered isuzu ko

[Djerms]

no problem sir. my 2014 KIA Carens can handle euro 4 diesel sold na po ang 4ja1 powered isuzu ko

Congrats on the sale. In your case mukhang hindi ka talaga papatulugin ng euro 4 fuels. Hehe ok lang yan. To each his own.

[Djerms]

Ah I see, ang intindi ko po kasi pinapa postpone muna nila para maubos muna yung current stocks. But they didn't mention if ano pwede gawin ng owners para tumaas din ang Euro compliance.

This is purely manufacturers concern. As ive said hindi na affected ang mga vehicles prior 2016 except that they will have to use eu4 fuels. Medyo mahirap itaas ang compliance ng eu2 kasi papakabot ka ng dpf, maybe revisions in cat and some environmental add ons to reduce emmisions. May i ask why you want to do this bro?

[LancerA174A]

This is purely manufacturers concern. As ive said hindi na affected ang mga vehicles prior 2016 except that they will have to use eu4 fuels. Medyo mahirap itaas ang compliance ng eu2 kasi papakabot ka ng dpf, maybe revisions in cat and some environmental add ons to reduce emmisions. May i ask why you want to do this bro?

Kasi baka po ang mangyari is parang sa ibang bansa, vehicles with higher emissions eh mas madami babayaran, or baka when the time comes na dumating ang better or higher Euro rating na diesel di na maging compatible sa Euro II engines. Or kaya naman 10 years later ipa ban na nila mga Euro II vehicles. Nag ppanic lang ata ako. Hehe jk.

Dapat kasi since alam na nilang malapit na Euro upgrade puro Euro IV na ang dinadala nila sa atin.

[Djerms]

Kasi baka po ang mangyari is parang sa ibang bansa, vehicles with higher emissions eh mas madami babayaran, or baka when the time comes na dumating ang better or higher Euro rating na diesel di na maging compatible sa Euro II engines. Or kaya naman 10 years later ipa ban na nila mga Euro II vehicles. Nag ppanic lang ata ako. Hehe jk.

Dapat kasi since alam na nilang malapit na Euro upgrade puro Euro IV na ang dinadala nila sa atin.

I don't think so. I for one wants to see the outcome of this pero I'm not counting on the government to be strict on the consumers. They will be strict towards manufacturers which they are doing now. Isipin mo bro if they will be strict sa consumers, paano ang mga jeepneys and public transport vehicles na baka hindi pa nga aabot sa Euro 2? Hehehe. Don't panic.

With regards to compatibility, I've said it over and over, compatible ang euro 4 sa euro 2. However, the higher rating 10ppm fuels ang medyo dry na for the euro 2 engines (I dont think this will be implemented soon). This is getting too technical and we are worrying over something not worth worrying about brother.

Yung sinasabi mo na sa ibang bansa where they are strict on registration of new vehicles and they put a premium on top of old vehicles, possible ito and I want this implemented also but I dont think this will be done soon. Relax lang brother. Enjoy your ride and lets see what will happen. In terms of banning after 10years, medyo nagpapanic ka na masyado bro hehe. As of now, haka haka lang ito lahat.

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Kasi baka po ang mangyari is parang sa ibang bansa, vehicles with higher emissions eh mas madami babayaran, or baka when the time comes na dumating ang better or higher Euro rating na diesel di na maging compatible sa Euro II engines. Or kaya naman 10 years later ipa ban na nila mga Euro II vehicles. Nag ppanic lang ata ako. Hehe jk.

Dapat kasi since alam na nilang malapit na Euro upgrade puro Euro IV na ang dinadala nila sa atin.

I don't think so. I for one wants to see the outcome of this pero I'm not counting on the government to be strict on the consumers. They will be strict towards manufacturers which they are doing now. Isipin mo bro if they will be strict sa consumers, paano ang mga jeepneys and public transport vehicles na baka hindi pa nga aabot sa Euro 2? Hehehe. Don't panic.

With regards to compatibility, I've said it over and over, compatible ang euro 4 sa euro 2. However, the higher rating 10ppm fuels ang medyo dry na for the euro 2 engines (I dont think this will be implemented soon). This is getting too technical and we are worrying over something not worth worrying about brother.

Yung sinasabi mo na sa ibang bansa where they are strict on registration of new vehicles and they put a premium on top of old vehicles, possible ito and I want this implemented also but I dont think this will be done soon. Relax lang brother. Enjoy your ride and lets see what will happen. In terms of banning after 10years, medyo nagpapanic ka na masyado bro hehe. As of now, haka haka lang ito lahat.

[LancerA174A]

I don't think so. I for one wants to see the outcome of this pero I'm not counting on the government to be strict on the consumers. They will be strict towards manufacturers which they are doing now. Isipin mo bro if they will be strict sa consumers, paano ang mga jeepneys and public transport vehicles na baka hindi pa nga aabot sa Euro 2? Hehehe. Don't panic.

With regards to compatibility, I've said it over and over, compatible ang euro 4 sa euro 2. However, the higher rating 10ppm fuels ang medyo dry na for the euro 2 engines (I dont think this will be implemented soon). This is getting too technical and we are worrying over something not worth worrying about brother.

Yung sinasabi mo na sa ibang bansa where they are strict on registration of new vehicles and they put a premium on top of old vehicles, possible ito and I want this implemented also but I dont think this will be done soon. Relax lang brother. Enjoy your ride and lets see what will happen. In terms of banning after 10years, medyo nagpapanic ka na masyado bro hehe. As of now, haka haka lang ito lahat.

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I don't think so. I for one wants to see the outcome of this pero I'm not counting on the government to be strict on the consumers. They will be strict towards manufacturers which they are doing now. Isipin mo bro if they will be strict sa consumers, paano ang mga jeepneys and public transport vehicles na baka hindi pa nga aabot sa Euro 2? Hehehe. Don't panic.

With regards to compatibility, I've said it over and over, compatible ang euro 4 sa euro 2. However, the higher rating 10ppm fuels ang medyo dry na for the euro 2 engines (I dont think this will be implemented soon). This is getting too technical and we are worrying over something not worth worrying about brother.

Yung sinasabi mo na sa ibang bansa where they are strict on registration of new vehicles and they put a premium on top of old vehicles, possible ito and I want this implemented also but I dont think this will be done soon. Relax lang brother. Enjoy your ride and lets see what will happen. In terms of banning after 10years, medyo nagpapanic ka na masyado bro hehe. As of now, haka haka lang ito lahat.

Haay sabagay knowing nga po yung PH government sobrang luwag nila kahit mga current na rules di naman laging nasusunod. We rarely change cars nga din po, lalo na ngayon brand new pa ito kaya dami ko na naiisip hehe. Anyway, our mu-X just turned a year old na wala naman nga po problema sa EurodieselIV ng Unioil.

[kevinworld]

Road tax might be coming to the Philippines. Yearly ang bayad ng road tax. Cars with euro2 will be penalized yearly vs euro4. Dati nga, wala tayong vat. Someday, the lawmakers will milk us motorists. Mga traidor lahat na naboto natin.

[Djerms]

Road tax might be coming to the Philippines. Yearly ang bayad ng road tax. Cars with euro2 will be penalized yearly vs euro4. Dati nga, wala tayong vat. Someday, the lawmakers will milk us motorists. Mga traidor lahat na naboto natin.

Definitely it will but I doubt it will be in the next couple of years. Lalo na election year next year.

[Caracter]

Definitely it will but I doubt it will be in the next couple of years. Lalo na election year next year.

Sa mga nakabili na congrats...enjoy your ride.
Sa mga kakabili pa lang don't worry...di kayo nag-iisa.
Sa mga pabili pa lang go ahead...kaya nga Isuzu kasi matipid at higit sa lahat matibay. Cheers!

[Djerms]

Mabalik tayo sa mux. Anyone noticed na parang may hesitation ang automatic when it shifts from 1st to 2nd gear? Vehicle will shift then may short drop on rpm na parang awkward.

[LancerA174A]

Mabalik tayo sa mux. Anyone noticed na parang may hesitation ang automatic when it shifts from 1st to 2nd gear? Vehicle will shift then may short drop on rpm na parang awkward.

Ang napansin ko lang po may tendency na malakas na shift shock pag sa city driving na stop and go tapos apak ng madiin sa gas bigla, kala ko nga nung una eh may bumangga sa likod ko. Di ko ma explain hehe.

[Djerms]

Ang napansin ko lang po may tendency na malakas na shift shock pag sa city driving na stop and go tapos apak ng madiin sa gas bigla, kala ko nga nung una eh may bumangga sa likod ko. Di ko ma explain hehe.

Haha pansin ko din yan. Oo nga parang medyo ramdam ang shifting sa city driving. Parang manual siya kung mag shift hehe.

[kevinworld]

Mabalik tayo sa mux. Anyone noticed na parang may hesitation ang automatic when it shifts from 1st to 2nd gear? Vehicle will shift then may short drop on rpm na parang awkward.

Normal lang pag old school automatic transmission. You need DSG for fast and smooth shifting

[wonderloo]

Hi. Nagbayad ba talaga kayo ng extra 5500 pesos guys para sa rust proofing daw ng MUX? The dealer said I need to pay 5500 para raw sa rust proofing.

[LancerA174A]

Hi. Nagbayad ba talaga kayo ng extra 5500 pesos guys para sa rust proofing daw ng MUX? The dealer said I need to pay 5500 para raw sa rust proofing.

Extra rust proofing is optional, but not required. Depende na lang po sa inyo if nakatira kayo malapit sa dagat or lagi kayo nadadaan sa saltwater.