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    #201
    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    Not exactly a rebadged TBZ..Their only similarities are the chasis and the sheet metal and interior.
    to be fair, may significant changes din sa mold ng wheel arches. Mas pronounced ang bulge sa Isuzu. Kaso talagang di maiiwasan sa biglang tingin dahil similar shape ng windows and pillars.

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    Look at that! No wonder it's tough!

    Isuzu came out first with the 8-cross member chassis, not Chevrolet as what is being published by the latter. The 8-member chassis started with the Isuzu Axiom in 2002 that is designed entirely by Isuzu in Japan and sold in the US thereafter. Instead of using a unibody design for its SUV, this kind of ladder-frame with 8 cross members frame is used. The 8-member chassis was adopted later on by Chevrolet or Holden as in the past both companies share Isuzu diesel engines in all 3.0-litre and below diesel models.

    For the US buyers even up todate, some of the big displacement engines to 6.6-litre diesel engines are designed by Isuzu as part of the General Motors-Isuzu merger that was once in existence.




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    Chief Stock Engine,

    Any update sa MU-X lately? Kailan darating daw sa Pinas?

    Thanks and Cheers!





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    #205
    Quote Originally Posted by d_mac View Post


    Chief Stock Engine,

    Any update sa MU-X lately? Kailan darating daw sa Pinas?

    Thanks and Cheers!





    At the moment wala pa balita. After December 20 2013 launch in Australia and several months later we'll probably have news.

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    #206
    Not so bad after all...

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    #207
    The most fuel efficient automatic 4x4 7seater (ladder-chasis) SUV

    14.44km/l or 6.92 liters /100km

    Distance travelled: 881km
    fuel consumed: 61L

    **Some guys(some salesmen) will even say the fuel consumption will improve. I don't believe them, but if you do then think of the possible fuel consumption.








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    #208
    OZ


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    #209
    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    OZ

    Yang ang magandang porma at pang-offroad. Pati tires mukhang mud terrain grappler.

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    #210
    Tyres: Swamper Intergo M16 size 33'' x 10.5 R 17

    Isuzu MU-X coming to the Philippines in APRIL 2014 (just for a showcase)





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    Safety Report:

    The Australasian New Car Assessment Program (ANCAP) today awarded a five-star safety rating to the Isuzu D-MAX ute and All-New Isuzu MU-X seven-seater SUV. This rating applies to all 4x4 D-MAX crew cab variants built from November 2013 and all 4x4 MU-X models.

    “This is a great result for the company as we head into an exciting new chapter of our short history here in Australia,” said Isuzu UTE Australia’s Managing Director Yasuhiro Takeuchi.

    “More and more businesses in the light commercial market are demanding maximum safety for their employees and contractors through safer vehicles – so today’s announcement will re-open some doors for us in the new year that have been held ajar pending today’s results.

    “The five-star ANCAP award for our new MU-X SUV also illustrates our safety commitment to families and 4WD enthusiasts with our foray into the passenger vehicle market,” Mr Takeuchi added.

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    #212
    40,500 australian dollar yung 4x4 so mahigit Php1.6M magkano kaya pag may tax na. hokus pokus na naman ang Isuzuphil nito para hindi lomobo yung presyo.

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    #213
    Quote Originally Posted by Syuryuken View Post
    40,500 australian dollar yung 4x4 so mahigit Php1.6M magkano kaya pag may tax na. hokus pokus na naman ang Isuzuphil nito para hindi lomobo yung presyo.
    Mahal talaga chief mga sasakyan sa Australia ---- lahat naman doon mahal eh ;)

    ....Kung sa sasakyan, ang medyo mura lang ay ang Toyota Prado compared dito sa Pinas. mahal sa Toyota Philippines ang Prado.

    Pero kung hokus-pokus lang pag-uusapan, mas hokus-pokus ang Mitsubishi Montero 4x4 - 3 dekada ba naman ang makinang 4D56 na kina-eelibs ng noypi, tapos halos PhP1.7 Million ang benta. Dumaan lang ng 6 na beses na turbocharging and later on CRDi updates ang jurassic na makina. Yari pa man 178 hp ang peak power nito, anemic at ubod ng lamya pa rin ang makina nito at less than 2000 rpm at mas malakas humigop ng diesel kaysa sa mga 3.0-litre na Isuzu diesel kahit ilang beses na pa-update update ng mga mods ang Mitsu

    Hayaan na natin Isuzu idol, at least year 2004-2006 engine platform yan at ngayong 2012 lang nagka-update ulit, hindi year 1986 platform gaya ng 4D56 ;)

    Cheers and blessed Christmas season sa inyo chief....



    Last edited by d_mac; December 27th, 2013 at 06:58 PM.

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    #214
    At ang masakit pa sa bulsa ng 4D56 engine ng Mitsubishi ay kailangan mong palitan ang timing belt,hindi katulad ng Dmax naka timing chain na , Ewan ko lang yung bagong engine ng Toyota Hilux 3.0 VNT , I don't know kung timing chain or timing belt ang naka install dito.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingsindian67 View Post
    At ang masakit pa sa bulsa ng 4D56 engine ng Mitsubishi ay kailangan mong palitan ang timing belt,hindi katulad ng Dmax naka timing chain na , Ewan ko lang yung bagong engine ng Toyota Hilux 3.0 VNT , I don't know kung timing chain or timing belt ang naka install dito.
    Simple lang sabi ng mga puting kasama ko chief na exposed sa mga pickups:

    "If you want durability, don't go for the timing belt Toyota 3.0 D-4D, go for the direct injection engine with timing chain and gear. And that's the D-max from Isuzu" ;)

    Cheers!


    P.S.

    Timing belt si 4D56 since 1986 na lumabas ito magpa-hanggang ngaun pa man.... Ang 3.2 4M41 Mitsu engine ang timing chain and gear chief ;)




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    #216
    Quote Originally Posted by d_mac View Post
    Simple lang sabi ng mga puting kasama ko chief na exposed sa mga pickups:

    "If you want durability, don't go for the timing belt Toyota 3.0 D-4D, go for the direct injection engine with timing chain and gear. And that's the D-max from Isuzu" ;)

    Cheers!


    P.S.

    Timing belt si 4D56 since 1986 na lumabas ito magpa-hanggang ngaun pa man.... Ang 3.2 4M41 Mitsu engine ang timing chain and gear chief ;)




    Sir d_mac or sa ibang tsikoteers may balita na ba kung kelan pararatingin ng IPC itong MU-X dito sa Pinas?

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    #217
    Quote Originally Posted by kingsindian67 View Post
    At ang masakit pa sa bulsa ng 4D56 engine ng Mitsubishi ay kailangan mong palitan ang timing belt,hindi katulad ng Dmax naka timing chain na , Ewan ko lang yung bagong engine ng Toyota Hilux 3.0 VNT , I don't know kung timing chain or timing belt ang naka install dito.
    Naka timing chain na?

    Pagkakaalam ko kasi, nauna sa mass production ang timing gear then timing chain. Later na lang ang timing belt after naging available ang stronger composite rubber materials.

    Para kasi ang dating eh 2012 model na notwithstanding na year 2014 na ngayon.... Hehehe

    Yes chain is rugged than belt but gear is more rugged than chain. Kung ruggedness rin lang pala ang basihan balik na lang sa timing gear?

    Yes metal chain outlast the rubber composite belt. But metallic materials stretches when becomes hot thus affecting the timing and performance. Timing chain permanently stretches din kapag tumagal. Sa timing chain system meron mga sprockets na subjected to wear ang mga teeth. Saka ang mga tensioners ng chain drive ay dependent sa engine oil pressure. All of those could make the engine erratic.

    Dagdag pa natin ang metal to metal link between the crank and cam which could amplify vibration at pati na rin ang frictional loses at drag during high rpm.

    The above are the reasons why timing belts made of composite with rubber (a vibration isolator/damping material) was considered and commonly used today.

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    #218
    any new updates on the arrival of this model in our shores? april 2014 still stands?

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    #219
    Quote Originally Posted by ACarEnthusiast View Post
    any new updates on the arrival of this model in our shores? april 2014 still stands?
    Wala na yatang enthusiastic sa bagong Alterra or MU-X sir ACar Enthusiast, que darating o hindi sa Pinas hehe

    Bukod sa halos kambal ni Safeguard emblem Chevy Trailblazer, luma pa rin ang makina - still the CRDi wastegate turbocharged 4JJ1-TC standard.... Never that IPC even adopted the previous 4JJ1-TCX VGS turbo engine with the 163 hp and 360 Nm torque so that at least the Philippine-version is just 1 generation behind of the current global engine, not 2 generations....

    At a hindsight, glad that i have bought my D-max (pickup equivalent ng Alterra or MU-X) as early as 1st quarter 2008. Modelo pa rin pala magpa-hanggang ngaun (at least its engine) even after 6 years, and still going ahihi

    Cheers!





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    Quote Originally Posted by d_mac View Post
    Wala na yatang enthusiastic sa bagong Alterra or MU-X sir ACar Enthusiast, que darating o hindi sa Pinas hehe

    Bukod sa halos kambal ni Safeguard emblem Chevy Trailblazer, luma pa rin ang makina - still the CRDi wastegate turbocharged 4JJ1-TC standard.... Never that IPC even adopted the previous 4JJ1-TCX VGS turbo engine with the 163 hp and 360 Nm torque so that at least the Philippine-version is just 1 generation behind of the current global engine, not 2 generations....

    At a hindsight, glad that i have bought my D-max (pickup equivalent ng Alterra or MU-X) as early as 1st quarter 2008. Modelo pa rin pala magpa-hanggang ngaun (at least its engine) even after 6 years, and still going ahihi

    Cheers!




    Appreciate the info sir D_Mac, I was actually counting on you and sir Stock Engine to post more info on the upcoming Alterra or MuX. I think this car needs more attention even though its actually a copy of the famed Trailblazer. Nevertheless, it may offer something different plus the fact that my preferred dealer may give me a better offer since were loyal customers. hehehe

    Additional question lang sirs, what is actually more durable maintaining in the long run, a diesel engine with a timing belt or a diesel engine with a timing chain? I know most toyota engines are belt driven and isuzus are timing chain but which exactly among them is better?

    Not sure exactly though if the MuX engine will have a timing chain or timing belt?

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