Hyundai Upgrades 1.4 Accent

[roydok]

From Top Gear Philippines:

Hyundai PH upgrades 1.4L Accent

24 Jun 2013 Hyundai has upgraded the 1.4-liter Accent with manual transmission, giving it a new engine-and-transmission combo that promises smoother acceleration and enhanced fuel frugality.According to the Korean carmaker, the new 1.4-liter dual-CVVT Kappa engine replaces the old single-CVVT Gamma engine and thoroughly optimizes the power unit's 99hp and 133Nm for significant improvement in overtaking performance. How the new engine is better than the old one in terms of power output has us scratching our heads since the Gamma engine did put out 107hp and 136Nm. (Are we missing anything here?) Anyway, the new engine is supposedly even more intelligent than before since its intake valves can be opened from 10% to 100% to give the engine the right amount of air-and-fuel mixture for optimum combustion. The exhaust valves are also programmed to efficiently expel the combusted gas, thus maximizing the succeeding air-fuel ignition for more efficient performance and greater fuel economy.A six-speed manual transmission replaces the five-speed gearbox of the previous model, with the extra gear allowing the car to keep the engine rpm low, improving its fuel economy. What's surprising about the upgraded Accent is this: Despite the new engine and transmission, Hyundai Asia Resources is selling it at the same price of P618,000.You can even buy it now through "Hyundai Financing Advantage," which runs until June 30. The deal options are: P40,000 discount on cash purchase of the 1.4-liter DCVVT GL (MT) and the CVVT GL (AT); P25,751 monthly amortization for the GL (MT), orP29,501 monthly amortization for the GL (AT) at 0% interest (with 50% down payment on a 12-month payment scheme); Down payment of as low as P88,000 for the GL (MT); or Low monthly amortization of only P6,513 for the GL (MT) with a 50% down payment at 60 months to pay.This, we suppose, is how Hyundai preempts the imminent arrival of the new Toyota Vios.

Bakit kaya underpowered compared sa previous one?

[harold13]

i think for 1 they have to change the engine because of issues doon sa old engine na usually kumakatok daw.
they have no choice but to use this new engine even if it's underpowered compare to the old engine.

[number001]

Some of the reasons why:

http://tsikot.com/forums/hyundai-car...sa-casa-92845/

http://tsikot.com/forums/hyundai-car...-owners-91415/

http://tsikot.com/forums/hyundai-car...e-knock-80216/

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I think I also read that this (Kappa engine) "upgrade" only applies to the 1.4 M/T.

1.4 A/T still has the "old" controversial Gamma engine.

[roydok]

Some of the reasons why:

http://tsikot.com/forums/hyundai-car...sa-casa-92845/

http://tsikot.com/forums/hyundai-car...-owners-91415/

http://tsikot.com/forums/hyundai-car...e-knock-80216/

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I think I also read that this (Kappa engine) "upgrade" only applies to the 1.4 M/T.

1.4 A/T still has the "old" controversial Gamma engine.

This is a difficult decision/choice for aspiring, new Hyundai Accent sedan 1.4 Liter owners:

1. Overpowered Gamma single-CVVT engine with 4-speed A/T with engine knocks vs.

2. Underpowered Kappa dual-CVVT engine with 6-speed M/T.

[AnOnymousNewbie]

This is a difficult decision/choice for aspiring, new Hyundai Accent sedan 1.4 Liter owners:

1. Overpowered Gamma single-CVVT engine with 4-speed A/T with engine knocks vs.

2. Underpowered Kappa dual-CVVT engine with 6-speed M/T.

When you say Underpowered, talaga considerable weaker siya sa previos engine?.. or would it still suffice a decent ride?

[roydok]

When you say Underpowered, talaga considerable weaker siya sa previos engine?.. or would it still suffice a decent ride?

Kindly read the 1st post. It contains both horsepower and torque ratings for both engines.;-)

[jut703]

Unless you've driven it, you can't dismiss it as underpowered compared to the previous Gamma 1.4.

I've driven the Gamma 1.4 and I don't think it's as powerful as its 107 hp on paper might lead you to believe. If this "weaker" engine has a better powerband that fares well with its transmission, then it'll be faster and more useful that its knocking predecessor.

[roydok]

Yes, I have driven both. Gamma engine from my sister's unit and the other one a test unit with a kappa.

[kompressor]

Yes, I have driven both. Gamma engine from my sister's unit and the other one a test unit with a kappa.

And how is it underpowered? 99hp and 133nm for a light subcompact, underpowered? If this addresses the knocking issues, then it should be more than enough to power this small car.

[AnOnymousNewbie]

Yes, I have driven both. Gamma engine from my sister's unit and the other one a test unit with a kappa.

Sir what's you're verdict? Does the Kappa engine makes you feel like it has more power under the hood than the Gamma?

[IMm29]

Sir what's you're verdict? Does the Kappa engine makes you feel like it has more power under the hood than the Gamma?

Could it also be possible that the difference in output is actually eaten up by the auto tranny?

[basti08]

If you rely on the numbers, you are missing a lot.

Remember the gamma engines have 'knocking' and 'low power' issues due to pre-mature/defective CVVT system of some. So how sure are you that you are indeed using all of your '107hp'?

[CooperS]

One still shouldn't bet on it..this completely new 'Kappa' engine probably won't guarantee a knock-free experience and a host of other maladies..this basically takes us back to our experience with the 2011 model all over again..I also don't like how they pad their advertised mileage figures..it hurts their rep a lot..a gimmick to entice a flock of buyers into their dealerships i guess..

[IMm29]

^^ That's another good point. Unless you're lucky to have a knock-less unit.


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[roydok]

Unless you've driven it, you can't dismiss it as underpowered compared to the previous Gamma 1.4.

I've driven the Gamma 1.4 and I don't think it's as powerful as its 107 hp on paper might lead you to believe. If this "weaker" engine has a better powerband that fares well with its transmission, then it'll be faster and more useful that its knocking predecessor.

My opinion: pro or against this new engine does not matter.

I hope and pray I am wrong of my initial assumptions and you are right Sir. If this new kappa engine is really a better one with no engine knocks, with a better powerband and fuel economy then that is good. It will really save a lot of new buyers of this model future headaches, unnecessary fuel expenses and warranty disappointments some of us 1st owners (rather my sister) have experienced.

[roydok]

Sir what's you're verdict? Does the Kappa engine makes you feel like it has more power under the hood than the Gamma?

Verdict: Not so optimistic and skeptic of Hyundai's claim of the new kappa engine. I am not an expert but like the author of the article the specs does raise eyebrows on the improvements of the new engine. Again I hope I'm proven wrong.

[Cafemaco]

I haven't driven both engines for the Accent but I think this is a good move for Hyundai. If I am correct, this Kappa engine uses the same "platform" from the 1.2 Kappa engine from the i10 which is also used for the current Kia Rio Lx and Slx trims. Iv'e tried the i10 and the engine has good pull and great fuel economy. As for the Kia Rio, reviews have been good for the 1.2 lx and slx. Again I say this is a good move from Hyundai if the old Kappa engine from the i10 and Kia Rio are to be used as somewhat of a performance yardstick. In regards to underpower, just look at the Vios, 1.3, 87 hp only and yet we see how taxi vios fly in the express ways, it can also make the Baguio climb so I think 97 hp for the new Kappa engine is just fine.

[AnOnymousNewbie]

Verdict: Not so optimistic and skeptic of Hyundai's claim of the new kappa engine. I am not an expert but like the author of the article the specs does raise eyebrows on the improvements of the new engine. Again I hope I'm proven wrong.

I'm caught between the Accent Sedan and Kia Rio 1.4.. but overall i guess the upcoming vios would be the safest choice.. Well see what other comments or experiences will come out in the months to come..

[number001]

Any replacement engine that does not exhibit the same knocking issues as the Gamma is a welcome change.

[roydok]

any replacement engine that does not exhibit the same knocking issues as the gamma is a welcome change.

amen! :-)