How Reliable is your Hyundai?!

[minicarph]

Hyundais don't age well folks, the hype is over or should I term it the bubble. We have Hyundais bought before the turn of the decade.

Long story short. I will avoid Hyundais or Kias in our next purchase. Minor issue Lang naman like weak electricals in terms of mga actuators Nila as well as bulbs that get busted almost yearly. The suspension become too soft and loose As Hyundai ages, do take note we replace tires every 4 years

If one will recall na pag bago bili, the Hyundai diesels are tahimik. Not entirely accurate, maingay din sya parang Isuzu pag nag luluma

[bloowolf]

Hyundais don't age well folks, the hype is over or should I term it the bubble. We have Hyundais bought before the turn of the decade.

Long story short. I will avoid Hyundais or Kias in our next purchase. Minor issue Lang naman like weak electricals in terms of mga actuators Nila as well as bulbs that get busted almost yearly. The suspension become too soft and loose As Hyundai ages, do take note we replace tires every 4 years

If one will recall na pag bago bili, the Hyundai diesels are tahimik. Not entirely accurate, maingay din sya parang Isuzu pag nag luluma

The Hyundais & Kias you had were of the turn of the decade. Those were the hyundais that tarnished the image of the Korean cars (in general). The models have been vastly improved when the Europeans started taking the helm, & this as just a few years ago (2011 I think). The cars are still not at par with the Japanese, but given a few more years, we should see the gap rapidly narrowing.

[minicarph]

Which decade are you taking about. 2000 or 2010?

Alam ko yun old hyundais story. I'm not referring to that. You cannot claim na ok ang 2011 up coz almost 4 years pa Lang Yan. When we talk about reliability dapat over 5 years hence I'm talking about the Sta Fe 2nd gen, Starex grx, Getz, the former tucson

What I'm trying to say is we have Japs older than 2008 and we have Hyundais bought 2007 to 2009. They don't age well. Coz the Japs feel more solid

The best meter for this is to ask the owners of accent, sta Fe, Tucson from 2010 up. In the year 2016 Kung reliable nga

[bloowolf]

In don't know which decade you referred to. As you said "We have Hyundais bought before the turn of the decade."

[dr. d]

if you really want to compare reliability, don't stop at 5 years.. that's too short.. go 10 years!

[SkyFlakes88]

Glad that the korean bug didn't bit me.[emoji4]

As for design,the korean car makers are already at par with the japanese but the quality and durability is still far off.

No offense to korean car lovers but honestly maybe 5 more years they'll catch up on these issues.hopefully. Peace to all! [emoji111]🏻

[17Sphynx17]

Korean designs for their cars have vastly improved especially when they imported their design heads (I guess that would be the best term for it).

Korean diesel engines are also very frugal and very powerful.

But for the models that I have had experience with through family and/or friends, their major issues were as follows:

1) Annual Suspension failure (2007 Kia Carnival, 2008 Kia Carens, 2009 Hyundai Sta Fe)
2) Turbo Failure/issues almost annually - needs replacement (2008 Kia Carens)
3) Annual Brake Replacement (2009 Hyundai Grand Starex - 10T kms annual mileage)

I do not personally drive any of these vehicles daily but these have pushed us as a family away to simply go back to Japanese brands because of their experiences. These were within the 3 years period of warranty back then, now I think it is 5 years. The other main issue was though they were under warranty, parts were not available, so it took 3 weeks for work to be completed to the car so you are basically crippled in that regard if you bought the car as a daily driver.

Most of them have already sold them. although now, a relative has just bought a 1.4CVT Hyundai Accent that's almost a year old with no issues. So I'm observing that as well.

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Korean designs for their cars have vastly improved especially when they imported their design heads (I guess that would be the best term for it).

Korean diesel engines are also very frugal and very powerful.

But for the models that I have had experience with through family and/or friends, their major issues were as follows:

1) Annual Suspension failure (2007 Kia Carnival, 2008 Kia Carens, 2009 Hyundai Sta Fe)
2) Turbo Failure/issues almost annually - needs replacement (2008 Kia Carens)
3) Annual Brake Replacement (2009 Hyundai Grand Starex - 10T kms annual mileage)

I do not personally drive any of these vehicles daily but these have pushed us as a family away to simply go back to Japanese brands because of their experiences. These were within the 3 years period of warranty back then, now I think it is 5 years. The other main issue was though they were under warranty, parts were not available, so it took 3 weeks for work to be completed to the car so you are basically crippled in that regard if you bought the car as a daily driver.

Most of them have already sold them. although now, a relative has just bought a 1.4CVT Hyundai Accent that's almost a year old with no issues. So I'm observing that as well.

[minicarph]

The problem with most hyundais today are they seem to look bigger. It's good marketing wise because you get value for money for more metal yet cheaper than Jap cars.

Ang napansin ko Lang pag nagluma ito parang naging iba ang driving dynamics. Like for example in shifting lanes or turning at intersections. Ewan ko Lang if others are having the same observations or maybe most owners who bought hyundais circa 2007 to 2009 already sold their cars Dahil ang Ganda naman ng offers ng new cars ngaun.

Ang tinitignan ko ngaun ay yang Elantra, many bought it because it looks big and Hyundai aligned as like their CRDi models as fuel-efficient. Pero Hindi naman Ito CRDi.

It's as big as the early 90s corona na nawalan ng value vs the corolla because it was a gas guzzler. The Elantra I think will even become more thirsty as it ages because of the bigger body.

Our Starex Van when it was new registered at 9km city, now it has settled to 7km or even less. We tried everything, new tires, tuning, diesel injector clean up wala na di na bumalik sa dati. And then there's handling na Hindi na ganun ka responsive. I m blaming the body as well as aging underchassis

[airolynx]

Our Starex Van when it was new registered at 9km city, now it has settled to 7km or even less. We tried everything, new tires, tuning, diesel injector clean up wala na di na bumalik sa dati. And then there's handling na Hindi na ganun ka responsive. I m blaming the body as well as aging underchassis

I believe this happens with Japanese cars too. My 1.3 GM City when it was new used to clock in 15-16km / liter. As it aged (reached 140,000km before I sold it) - even with maintenance through the Casa, it settled at around 13-14km / liter.

[bloowolf]

I can only speak for myself, but Hyundai's & Kia's strength lies in their diesel line up, not in their gasoline vehicles. The Europeans are way ahead than the Japanese in diesel technology & everyone who bought the newer models (2012 up) have nothing but positive comments about them. If I were to buy a gasoline one, I'd definitely go Japanese. The Korean gasoline cars, even with direct injection, is quite thirsty & the cars don't offer any distinct advantage over the Japanese

[minicarph]

True bro, what gave the Korean automakers the break here was their CRDi models. During the time when the Japs were preoccupied with their success in almost all models launched here like the corollas. Civics, lancers, non CRDi pajeros, crvs, rav4, nakakakita ng opportunity ang Koreans sa CRDi tech

The problem again is the diesel in our country. Diesel is more expensive in any other nation in the world except the Phils, because gasoline users subsidize the jeepneys and mass transport, just like how we subsidize electricity bills for the squatters. We live in a populist country with an overpopulated masa, go figure lol


So since it's subsidized and cheap and it's being used for mass transport with substandard surplus Diesel engines from abroad, there is this idea na Baka pwede haluan ang diesel para makatipid lalo and more profit for the greedy businessmen

Hyundais and Kias market their vehicles as Euro compliant, but we are not in Europe. We are in 3rd world where everyone finds a way to make costs cheap and profit higher. Government regulation ano yun, we all view the government as corrupt so what's regulation if others are getting away with it

A year ago, I was made aware than certain grey imports are selling cheaper fuel in the big 3 particularly the franchises and passing it off as oil company supplied fuel. This was rampant in the provinces, so is it here in the city? Maybe


So partner 1st world diesel technology of the Koreans plus the diesel we have here from God knows where it came from. Which fuel tank diba, maybe some are mixed, some tanks with lower grade diesel, some from the oil companies. The presence of diesel discounts station for jeepneys don't help at all

Yan ang scenario, you get expensive Korean CRDi at par with Japs in terms of vehicle investment tapos Di mo man Lang Malayan Kung malinis ang diesel mo, and then you'll have diesel problems in the future

With this analysis, yes the Korean crdi are reliable if you are in Europe

[SkyFlakes88]

The korean diesels uses the euro design from porsche. They bought the license for the technology. But, the materials were made by koreans. That's why it didn't last long (build) was not good enough for long term use.

Since korea is already considered a 1st world country they just use cars for 5 yrs then buy new ones same with other developed countries. Thus, durability issues are not so much a factor to them.

[bloowolf]

The korean diesels uses the euro design from porsche. They bought the license for the technology. But, the materials were made by koreans. That's why it didn't last long (build) was not good enough for long term use.

Since korea is already considered a 1st world country they just use cars for 5 yrs then buy new ones same with other developed countries. Thus, durability issues are not so much a factor to them.

Bro, I googled it. Engines are made by VM Motori & a Slovakian factory. Engine components are made by Bosch. Where did you say you saw it?

[SkyFlakes88]

In the long run korean cars are more more expensive to maintenance. Parts may be cheaper but you get to pay for the labor often and it seems that the longer you hang on to your car the more harder it is to maintain.

[bloowolf]

In the long run korean cars are more more expensive to maintenance. Parts may be cheaper but you get to pay for the labor often and it seems that the longer you hang on to your car the more harder it is to maintain.

Probably if the car is old. Then, again, all old cars are harder to maintain, gas or diesel. Routine maintenance is change oil filter with top up every 5k, change oil, filter, air & cabin filter every 10k, change all filters (including fuel filter) every 20k. Madugo yung 20k series. For me, cost for PMS offset by fuel savings. Besides, the Hyundai diesels are really fun to drive.

[SkyFlakes88]

Didn't see it sir somebody from hyundai told me. The crdi technology was from porsche they bought the license to use it but builders of the engines were korean

[bloowolf]

Didn't see it sir somebody from hyundai told me. The crdi technology was from porsche they bought the license to use it but builders of the engines were korean

That doesn't count. We need more authoritative proof. Hyundai & it's subsidiary KIA took the shortcut by hiring Europeans to design & buy their engines & electrical components from a third Party. Korean parts are body, seats, plastics, etc... Based on what I see in my car.

[SkyFlakes88]

That doesn't count. We need more authoritative proof. Hyundai & it's subsidiary KIA took the shortcut by hiring Europeans to design & buy their engines & electrical components from a third Party. Korean parts are body, seats, plastics, etc... Based on what I see in my car.

You are right sir. I have no proof to back my comments on. It's a hear say. I have no intentions of offending anyone. I retract my posted comments on this. Peace to all [emoji4]

[dr. d]

Didn't see it sir somebody from hyundai told me. The crdi technology was from porsche they bought the license to use it but builders of the engines were korean

i read that also.. from somewhere.
unfortunately, even if the design was german, the metallurgy was korean. so there!
they will happily sell you the design, because you can eventually figure it out for yourself anyway, just by buying and dissecting one of their cars. but no one in his right mind will sell you his formula for manufacturing metal alloys... that is even topper secret than coca cola's formula..

[Revenant]

Matrix CRDI - delivery, collection, personal; 10 years; 230+k km; Ondoy survivor
Accent CRDI - delivery, collection; 6 years; 150+k km; Ondoy survivor
Accent CRDI - delivery, collection; 5 years; 120+k km
Accent CRDI - delivery collection, sales; 4 years; 100+k km
Getz CRDI - delivery, collection, sales, personal; 8 years; Ondoy survivor; 120+k km when acquired by our medrep 3 years ago - driven by her son right now
H100 - delivery, collection, transport; 3 years; 90+k km

As long as you clean the EGR, replace the filters at proper interval and be religious in PMS, they can last for a very long period of time.

To ensure transmission longevity especially on manuals, always make it a point to fill up with the proper gear oil. Casas tend to use SAE90 instead of 75w85 or 75w90. The former feels stiff and notchy especially on cold starts. The latter are smooth.

For the issue of paint fading, I have to disagree with Korean cars being worse for the wear as time goes on. I think it also depends on the color and material of choice. My shimmer blue Matrix, blue Accents, orange and blue Getz, red gen1 Vios all get the "parang bago pa rin" impressions. I can't say the same for our silver steel and black Vios which look faded, the black ones especially if you take a closer look and feel the paint.

Not a big fan of the H100 though. It's durable, efficient, refined and cleaner compared to our L300 but the body and seating capacity seems too big for its engine. I'd take her sister, the pushrod/timing gear Kia K2700 for our next purchase instead.

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Matrix CRDI - delivery, collection, personal; 10 years; 230+k km; Ondoy survivor
Accent CRDI - delivery, collection; 6 years; 150+k km; Ondoy survivor
Accent CRDI - delivery, collection; 5 years; 120+k km
Accent CRDI - delivery collection, sales; 4 years; 100+k km
Getz CRDI - delivery, collection, sales, personal; 8 years; Ondoy survivor; 120+k km when acquired by our medrep 3 years ago - driven by her son right now
H100 - delivery, collection, transport; 3 years; 90+k km

As long as you clean the EGR, replace the filters at proper interval and be religious in PMS, they can last for a very long period of time.

To ensure transmission longevity especially on manuals, always make it a point to fill up with the proper gear oil. Casas tend to use SAE90 instead of 75w85 or 75w90. The former feels stiff and notchy especially on cold starts. The latter are smooth.

For the issue of paint fading, I have to disagree with Korean cars being worse for the wear as time goes on. I think it also depends on the color and material of choice. My shimmer blue Matrix, blue Accents, orange and blue Getz, red gen1 Vios all get the "parang bago pa rin" impressions. I can't say the same for our silver steel and black Vios which look faded, the black ones especially if you take a closer look and feel the paint.

Not a big fan of the H100 though. It's durable, efficient, refined and cleaner compared to our L300 but the body and seating capacity seems too big for its engine. I'd take her sister, the pushrod/timing gear Kia K2700 for our next purchase instead.