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    #41
    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Mas full featured if from Hancars. Sa local dealers ang daming tinatanggal.
    What about warranty? Service and maintenance cost and expenses/expertise? Availability of service centers? Which is better?

    Do local Hyundai dealers service Hancar bought units? Or are you stuck with Hancars even for servicing?

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    #42
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    hyunda sta fe.
    Fwd pero hindi naman van un eh hehe.

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    #43
    Quote Originally Posted by GTcervan View Post
    Fwd pero hindi naman van un eh hehe.
    who would have thought, it was FWD?

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    #44
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    it takes major engineering to shift from RWD to FWD.
    does the shift to front wheel drive grant the car owner distinct advantages over rear wheel drive?
    is the shift from RWD to FWD to the manufacturer's advantage?
    seriously, i do not know the answer.
    heh heh.
    Maybe they'll leverage the N3 platform that's used in alot of hyundai/kia vehicles (such as the sta fe and kia carnival) as some sites are speculating/reporting to minimize engineering costs?

    Hyundai Staria: ein Raumschiff geht in Serie (Atleast from what google translate reads)

    The move if true is probably to maximize cabin space since the engine can be mounted transversely and the cabin can be pushed forward more than in a rwd setup and in hyundai's case one less platform to develop.

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    #45
    Quote Originally Posted by 111prez View Post
    What about warranty? Service and maintenance cost and expenses/expertise? Availability of service centers? Which is better?

    Do local Hyundai dealers service Hancar bought units? Or are you stuck with Hancars even for servicing?
    i think hyundai will service those cars from hancars... but they will not honor warranty claims..

    hancars offer warranty to their units..

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    #46
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    who would have thought, it was FWD?
    yep.. sta. fe FWD.. not like the first sorento offered here in 4WD with live rear axle..

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    #47
    Quote Originally Posted by 111prez View Post
    What about warranty? Service and maintenance cost and expenses/expertise? Availability of service centers? Which is better?

    Do local Hyundai dealers service Hancar bought units? Or are you stuck with Hancars even for servicing?
    if hancars is not an authorized outlet of hyundai korea,
    then hancars can only offer in-house warranty. if they wish to parallel the official hyundai phils warranty, that is entirely up to them alone.
    hyundai phils casas may not honor hancars-sourced cars for warranty claims. but they can service/repair, for a fee.

    but let me ask,
    do current hyundai units develop significant warranty claims?
    kasi, kung wala naman...
    Last edited by dr. d; March 19th, 2021 at 03:09 PM.

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    #48
    Quote Originally Posted by 111prez View Post
    What about warranty? Service and maintenance cost and expenses/expertise? Availability of service centers? Which is better?

    Do local Hyundai dealers service Hancar bought units? Or are you stuck with Hancars even for servicing?
    Dati Hancars was already offering 5yr warranty, when local Hyundai nasa 3yrs pa lang.

    For maintenance, never ko naman dinala or binalik kay hancars, I do my own repairs and maintenance basta kaya.

    Local hyundai dealers will service hancar bought units. I once had my sliding doors repaired by the local dealer.
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    #49
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    if hancars is not an authorized outlet of hyundai korea,
    then hancars can only offer in-house warranty. if they wish to parallel the official hyundai phils warranty, that is entirely up to them alone.
    hyundai phils casas may not honor hancars-sourced cars for warranty claims. but they can service/repair, for a fee.

    but let me ask,
    do current hyundai units develop significant warranty claims?
    kasi, kung wala naman...


    There are significant recalls.

    Engine recall for fire risk:


    Their high-end Genesis brand also added to the recall:
    Genesis Cars Now Added to Hyundai, Kia Recall - Consumer Reports

    Tucson has a recall for the ABS module which also carries a fire risk...

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    #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Kamiya View Post
    There are significant recalls.

    Engine recall for fire risk:


    Their high-end Genesis brand also added to the recall:
    Genesis Cars Now Added to Hyundai, Kia Recall - Consumer Reports

    Tucson has a recall for the ABS module which also carries a fire risk...
    Yikes. Pero at least wala ang starex jan.

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    #51
    Quote Originally Posted by GTcervan View Post
    Well, mas maganda ang power delivery ng fwd at mas fuel efficient daw kasi hindi na kelangan ng drive shaft to transfer the power to the rear wheels and mas cheap din because of lesser parts. Pero prone din ito sa undeersteer kasi bukod sa turning wheel na ay siya din yung running wheel. Mas ramdam pa yun pag mas mabigat ang sasakyan. Kaya siguro hindi ideal pagdating sa mga van pero suprisingly, may mga van na fwd like yung nissan nv400 na meron sa ibang bansa.
    advantage in space packaging. enables a lower and flatter floor for the passengers.

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    #52
    I think a FWD van is ok. Ford's Transit has FWD, and the Ram Promaster is FWD only.

    At the speeds a van is going naman you should always be well within the limits of grip, so hindi issue yung under/oversteer.

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    #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Kamiya View Post
    I think a FWD van is ok. Ford's Transit has FWD, and the Ram Promaster is FWD only.

    At the speeds a van is going naman you should always be well within the limits of grip, so hindi issue yung under/oversteer.
    those toyota hiace shuttle vans racing along slex, are making a mockery of the traffic rules.
    but yes, they are RWDs.

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    #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Kamiya View Post
    I think a FWD van is ok. Ford's Transit has FWD, and the Ram Promaster is FWD only.

    At the speeds a van is going naman you should always be well within the limits of grip, so hindi issue yung under/oversteer.
    Even Chrysler's Pacifica/Voyager and the latter Town & Country are FWD. And it is a very successful line of minivans since 1980s. Bumebenta parin hanggang ngayon.

    Infact they also introduced AWD on the Pacifica van recently, to take it even on the snow or slippery situations. Baka may AWD option din itong upcoming Staria/Starex.

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    #55
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    those toyota hiace shuttle vans racing along slex, are making a mockery of the traffic rules.
    but yes, they are RWDs.
    lalo na yung mga ibang uv express drivers doc.
    not just hiaces even NV350 urvans that are modified with some racy bodykits or reflashed their ecus.

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    #56
    Confirmed to be fwd na ba etong bagong staria?

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    #57
    Quote Originally Posted by GTcervan View Post
    Confirmed to be fwd na ba etong bagong staria?
    Wala pang nirerelease na official technical details from hyundai, pero possible na may AWD version din na lalabas.

    Article from Caradvice

    Images released by Hyundai show the Premium version wearing a '3.5' badge, suggesting its powertrain could be borrowed from the recently-released Santa Fe, offering 200kW and 332Nm via an eight-speed torque-converter automatic.

    A turbo diesel is likely to be offered in entry-level Staria models, and could use a version of the Santa Fe's 148kW/440Nm 2.2-litre four-cylinder, or potentially the 137kW/416Nm 2.0-litre four-cylinder borrowed from the Tucson.

    Local Hyundai dealers have been told all-wheel-drive versions may be available, as reported by CarAdvice earlier this month.
    Meron nang testing ng Staria/Starex sa Thailand:



    All-new Hyundai Starex/Staria spotted testing in Thailand


    Kung nasa Thailand lang ako, If I saw one of these parked or stopped, sisilip lang ako sa ilalim ng rear axle, underbody to look at the driveshaft if this is really rear-wheel drive, and on the front axle (FWD) to confirm its drive layout.


    The shape on the front looks like the 1st gen Starex mixed with Grand Starex and a bit of a Toyota Previa.

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    #58
    Quote Originally Posted by thearsenal1205 View Post


    The shape on the front looks like the 1st gen Starex mixed with Grand Starex and a bit of a Toyota Previa.
    the nose reminds me of an early 90s toyota previa van.

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    Upper photo looks like the highend model and bottom one is for the commercial model

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    #60
    Doesn't the grill holes look quite big? almost comprising the whole bumper.

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