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    This happened while gliding only around 10kph, suddenly engine went off, But when I restart the engine is ok up to now , brought it to pitstop and what they only did was checked something on the exhaust area and all clear sa diagnostic box. Its May 2012 acquired and only 8,500 kms, i was told that I should fill only on Seaoil stations since others including shell caltex and petron diesels are not compatible to euro 5 engine. Before that happened I always fill up either flying v, metroil and phoenix diesel. In fairness to pitstop they charged me nothing but they are not giving me concrete solutions on my problem observe na lang daw, many experienced na daw according to them but after the test di na bumalik. My concern is what if it stopped on highways or downhill, it will start again but due to loss of power of course brakes and steering will be off also.

    Any inputs or solutions? Thanks in advance!

    BB

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    Anong 2012 model ng hyundai ang sayo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjreyesmd View Post
    Anong 2012 model ng hyundai ang sayo?
    May 2012 bro. Euro 5 engine. Now almost 9K kms , sea oil diesel. They are claiming its diesel problem dito sa pilipinas not match sa euro 5 engine, any thoughts?

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    what particular hyundai vehicle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retz View Post
    what particular hyundai vehicle?
    Im sorry, its Starex. thanks, sorry admins and mods cant seem to edit the subject of my original message, my bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doubleB View Post
    May 2012 bro. Euro 5 engine. Now almost 9K kms , sea oil diesel. They are claiming its diesel problem dito sa pilipinas not match sa euro 5 engine, any thoughts?
    If you have a EURO5 diesel vehicle, use EURO5 diesel. Doing otherwise is like using plain water in a high pressure coolant system. Sure it will work, but it won't be trouble-free.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    pano mo napatakbo yung 2012 engine?

    i like this thread!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syuryuken View Post
    pano mo napatakbo yung 2012 engine?

    i like this thread!
    Haha sorry man its a starex, cannot edit my orig post, mods pls help me! Thanks!

    its original subj : "2012 Hyundai starex engine shutdown"

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    If you have a EURO5 diesel vehicle, use EURO5 diesel. Doing otherwise is like using plain water in a high pressure coolant system. Sure it will work, but it won't be trouble-free.
    Hi any recommended or self tested euro 5 diesel? Is sea oil diesel is euro 5 compliant? Gasoline boys cant seem to give me answer to my queries, by the time it went off I think I just filled it with either Phoenix or metro oil diesel, thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by doubleB View Post
    May 2012 bro. Euro 5 engine. Now almost 9K kms , sea oil diesel. They are claiming its diesel problem dito sa pilipinas not match sa euro 5 engine, any thoughts?
    Actually dilema yan ng lahat ng bagong diesel engines natin dito. I remember when the first time lumabas fortuner ganto din nangyari. biglang namamatay yung engine kasi masyadong madumi diesel natin dito sa pinas. they had to change fuel filters to cope with the dirty diesel being sold sa market natin

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    Quote Originally Posted by njgarin View Post
    Actually dilema yan ng lahat ng bagong diesel engines natin dito. I remember when the first time lumabas fortuner ganto din nangyari. biglang namamatay yung engine kasi masyadong madumi diesel natin dito sa pinas. they had to change fuel filters to cope with the dirty diesel being sold sa market natin
    Turned out that about half of the fuel filter was water. Tsk tsk! Having the fuel filter replaced at this point. Thanks.

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    The fuel filter replacement did the trick. No more sudden shutdowns and Check Engine Light.

    What would the recommended fuel filter replacement interval be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by doubleB View Post
    Thanks for the inputs. Pitstop never mentioned eastern, they adviced me only to fill up on either, petron , yes unioil and fil oil. Need to find some easter petrol station to check if their diesel is euro 4 compliant also. After my tank from sea oil might try Unioil, since Ive seen a branch in Mindanao ave. At least I have options now in case i need to fill up right away. Do you know any eastern petrol station near my place? I live in valenzuela. Thanks man!

    Regards,

    BB
    Sorry, the only stations that i know of is pedro gil in manila, and the one in subic hehehe. But according to their website they have one in caloocan. Kaso malayo pa rin yata sa yo...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rac98 View Post
    Sorry, the only stations that i know of is pedro gil in manila, and the one in subic hehehe. But according to their website they have one in caloocan. Kaso malayo pa rin yata sa yo...
    Thanks!

    Tried Unioils EURO DIESEL IV, so far so good. Hope this solves my problem, the color is greenish , price is 40.60 php/lit, filled up from Mindanao station, saw a branch also in Quezon ave near Elars. Any other unioil branches in QC or Manila in particular? Thanks!





    FROM UNIOULS SITE:

    EURODiesel IV Factsheet

    EuroDiesel IV is the latest product diesel offering from Unioil that meets Euro IV standard levels. Considered as the CLEANEST and MOST ADVANCED DIESEL in the PHILIPPINES, EuroDiesel IV guarantees a maximum sulfur content of 50 ppm (parts per million) compared to other Euro II compliant diesels with a sulfur content of 500 ppm. It has a higher cetane number compared to the regular diesels.

    Unioil's EuroDiesel IV uses a base fuel that is Euro IV compliant. This diesel fuel is more advanced compared to the usual Euro II and Euro III level diesels. EuroDiesel IV is made available in all Unioil retail stations more than 3 years before the 2016 mandate of the Department of Energy and Natural Resources (DENR).

    CLEANER EMISSIONS
    EuroDiesel IV has up to 90% lower sulfur content compared to the usual diesel (Euro II or III) available in the market. This translates to a reduction in the emissions of sulfur oxides and sulfate particulate matter. In a study together with the DENR, smoke opacity reductions of up to 83% and 74% were observed for new and old model vehicles, respectively, with the use of EuroDiesel IV compared to that of a leading brand's diesel.

    BETTER FUEL EFFICIENCY
    EuroDiesel IV has a higher cetane number compared to the usual diesel available in the Philippines. Diesel with a higher cetane number burns faster and has a better ignition quality, giving better fuel efficiency.

    FASTER COLD-START PERFORMANCE
    EuroDiesel IV can also provide a faster cold-start performance because of its higher cetane number. It readily burns in a cold engine. Its ignition delay is shorter compared to the usual diesel even in the low pressure and low temperature conditions of a long-idled engine. This in turn translates to easier start, smoother operations, less white smoke, and lower noise.

    QUIETER ENGINE
    EuroDiesel IV ignites before most of the fuel is injected into the combustion chamber. This gives better controlled rates of heat release and pressure increase within the combustion chamber than lower cetane number diesel. This translates to a reduced knock intensity and smoother, quieter engine operations. In an independent study published in 2012, increase of cetane number gave up to 12.5% reduction in noise.

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    There is a unioil branch near my place.. Kaso hassle ang route nya.. Mas matraffic ako. Good think magkaroon na ng unioil along SLEX in Bangkal area..

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    Hi po... new here... change topic lang po sana mga starex owners. I am planning to buy a new starex. Hingi lang po sana advice which is better bumili sa casa or grey market kasi mas mura daw po. I own a santa fe 2012 and very satisfied with engine for 13 months now. Will be replacing my fortuner with a van this time. Tnx po...

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    Quote Originally Posted by infinity1212 View Post
    Hi po... new here... change topic lang po sana mga starex owners. I am planning to buy a new starex. Hingi lang po sana advice which is better bumili sa casa or grey market kasi mas mura daw po. I own a santa fe 2012 and very satisfied with engine for 13 months now. Will be replacing my fortuner with a van this time. Tnx po...
    Definitely gray market kung Grand Starex ang paguusapan, actually its not kung mas mura sa gray market o sa casa. The gray market units simply offer more value for the money. For example, the gray market entry level CVX is still much better equipped the local top of the line Gold model.

    Our family has 2 Grand Starexes and both were bought from the gray market, actually a third Grand Starex might come along next year as we are currently pondering whether or not to sell our aging 2005 Starex TCI A/T as it has already logged more than 90,000km on it.
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    Hey Guys,

    Not sure if this is related. The Gen 3 CRDi that we used to have which we sold to a family friend is having problems. According to my friend, when he drove it from Pangasinan to Manila last night, anytime he'd hit 90 kph, the engine would shut down. Luckily, it has a turbo timer, so that gives him time to decelerate and stop at the side of the road, as well as allow the oil to cool. The check engine light turns on, too.

    Any ideas? He keeps telling me it's the battery, but I'm guessing it's not.

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    Update:

    The Motolite Gold (70 amp) battery was replaced with an AC Delco (98 amp) battery after I had posted. The former was still ok, but then it seemed to have lacked the punch for the Gen 3 CRDi. My friend will head home to Las Pinas and check if the problem still persists. I recommended a fuel filter change as well.

    Any inputs would still be very much appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Automahn View Post
    AFAIK, the battery is only needed by the engine on cranking/start up. Once the engine is running, the alternator power takes over all electrical needs of the vehicle.
    Thanks. That's what i'd been telling my friend. Ayaw maniwala, di bale his money. He eventually got proven wrong coz despite the new battery same problem.

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