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    #701
    Quote Originally Posted by Verbl Kint View Post
    With the relatively few features of the 1.6 Elantra, is the Accent GLS-Blue a better choice? Will the Accent CRDi have the same specs as the GLS-blue?
    May konting "added" features yung TOTL Accent CRDi.

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    #702
    Thanks for the info. Will it still be priced in the low P800k region?

    Parang mas nagustuhan ko yung added features nung Blue kasi kesa sa base variant ng Elantra.

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    #703
    OT: Nearly 900K yung price. But I still find it value for money..

    Let's talk about this in the Accent thread, not here.

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    #704
    Quote Originally Posted by Starex_Gold View Post
    Yung Civic 2.0S M/T ay Limited Edition, IIRC. Yung 2.0S-L inalis na para hindi masyado tumaas yung price ng MMC, hindi dahil mababa ang demand.

    Sa ngayon, hindi Civic FD ang mahigpit na kalaban ng Elantra kaya hindi dapat doon i-compare. Everyone bought, even I, a Civic 1.8S (kasi no choice na, ubos ang 2.0S-L na bronze eh), Kasi Honda ang Civic.
    Quote Originally Posted by renzo_d10 View Post
    Well I do have base model variants too but I never get to think that " hey, I'm contented with this already ! " ... no. I always think that if I only had the money back then, then I'd surely get the higher variants.

    And I'm tired of those sayings na ... " I can live without this ... kasi as long as I have an a/c eh okay na sakin "

    If it's practicality you're after, then go buy yourself a cheaper car. For sure it has airconditioning too. Like let's say, an Alto perhaps.


    The reason why the TOTL variants are hard to sell because Hyundai, Toyota, Honda or whatever brand it is, are aiming at a different community of people. A different .. market.

    Some might want this feature just for the sake of having it. And some, buy totl variants for bragging rights.

    You can't brag about your lo-end cars.

    Usapan ni B1 at ni B2

    B1 : Pare, I drive a civic na !
    B2 : Wow pare pa shotgun ha. Naka civic ka na pala ! Mahal yan for sure .. !
    B1 : Sige pare sakay ka sa LXi ko !
    B2 : Awts. Kala ko SiR. Nevermind.


    ... you can't brag about your Porsche Boxter. Instead, pagtatawanan ka lang.

    why ? because people tend to judge your statue in life by looking at your car solely.

    if you drive up in a Vios J in a presidential meeting you get this looks na parang ...

    " ay ano 'to ? hindi pinapasahod ? "

    I hope you get me. People who buys TOTL variants wants to be unique. To stand out. That's why they get to laugh at the people who buy lo-end variants and copy the high end ones. Why ? cause by doing that you look stupid and trying hard.
    *SG: Kung may demand pa ang 2.0S-L they should have still sold it here perhaps at 1.3-1.4M, but kung wala nga bibili then why bother selling it?

    I'm just saying majority of Filipinos can't afford a TOTL model or would rather buy a mid variant. Because I think the majority thinks that they can buy bigger cars with the same amount of money of a TOTL car.

    *renzo:

    Tama moneyed people typically buys the TOTL models pero konti lang ang rich people compared sa middle class lalo na compared sa poor dito sa Philippines.

    So kung rich ang bibili they won't buy a compact sedan even with lots of features kasi they would buy midsize cars, SUVs, CUVs, or european cars.

    With that, I think that Hyundai has the benefit to entice people with the price instead of the features.

    Also, I think that there are very few car enthusiasts that actually buy the TOTL compact sedans. Kahit pa siguro lahat ng nasa forums na to bumili (which is close to impossible) it may still not be enough for TOTL compacts to sell.

    Also, who brags their compact sedans anyway? Pwera na lang kung Evo or WRX Impreza pa yan.

    Tsaka, kayo naman di pa kayo nasanay sa HARI. Ang Elantra nila laging ganyan always lacking in features.

    I just noticed naman na pag mura ang Hyundai vehicle medyo kulang sa features pero sobrang ganda ng price, pero kung mahal naman compared sa competitors buhos naman sa features.

    I'm just thinking na HARI doesn't want to happen what they did with the Diesel Elantra, i30 A/T gas, i30 M/T Diesel. Which is scare people away with the sticker price. Maybe HARI is willing to sacrifice (for now) what forumers and car enthusiasts will say and pray that this Elantra will sell finally.

    Ayan ah, hindi ako Hyundai hater.

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    #705
    Quote Originally Posted by Starex_Gold View Post
    Kung overrated na ang auto climate sa compact sedan, ano pa sa Accent.
    OVERKILL.

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    #706
    Quote Originally Posted by Starex_Gold View Post
    Ok naman, baka intayin na namin yung TOTL CRDi kesa bumili ng 1.4 A/T ngayon.
    Parang ngayon lang magkakaroon ng diesel subcompact na A/T sa Philippines.

    Ang alam ko lang na close dito ay Cruze Diesel and Ford Focus TDCi. Which are 1.2m each.

    Antulin siguro nito pag galing sa full stop.

    Pero kung close to 900k, pwede na compact car, pickup at MPV mabili with that money.

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    #707
    The old Accent was purely DIESEL. Yes the TAXI ACCENT!

    The Getz at one point was also offered in diesel. Pero mahal eh kaya walang bumili...

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    Quote Originally Posted by eljo3025 View Post
    *
    *renzo:

    Tama moneyed people typically buys the TOTL models pero konti lang ang rich people compared sa middle class lalo na compared sa poor dito sa

    That's why they are given the option to choose from the base models or the high-end models.


    So kung rich ang bibili they won't buy a compact sedan even with lots of features kasi they would buy midsize cars, SUVs, CUVs, or european cars.
    Not all people prefer europeans because of its high maintenance. And some might not even consider cars with high ground clearance ( SUVs or CUVs ) simply because they want the comfort that a compact sedan is giving.

    Not all TOTL buyers are filthy rich. Some are even in the middle class which just happens to afford one.

    These people MIGHT afford buying a TOTL compact sedan but cannot anymore buy a TOTL midsize vehicle such as the Camry 3.5Q because for them it's too much.


    With that, I think that Hyundai has the benefit to entice people with the price instead of the features.

    People still take a look at the features. Some people aren't cheap enough to consider a cheap car with simple features. They happen to go check other vehicles which offers MORE features for their convenience at a much greater price of course.


    Also, I think that there are very few car enthusiasts that actually buy the TOTL compact sedans. Kahit pa siguro lahat ng nasa forums na to bumili (which is close to impossible) it may still not be enough for TOTL compacts to sell.
    Then again, Toyota, Honda, Nissan or whatever car make for that matter is not after on the sales of their TOTL variants since they've got lots of sales already on the lower ones. The TOTL variants are after on a different community of people. People who are after features and convenience. Yes, they may be few but they're not " extinct " ..
    Also, who brags their compact sedans anyway? Pwera na lang kung Evo or WRX Impreza pa yan.
    Lots, man. Lots.

    Just look at the owners of the modded Civic SiR's out there.


    Tsaka, kayo naman di pa kayo nasanay sa HARI. Ang Elantra nila laging ganyan always lacking in features.

    Cost-cutting perhaps ?
    I just noticed naman na pag mura ang Hyundai vehicle medyo kulang sa features pero sobrang ganda ng price, pero kung mahal naman compared sa competitors buhos naman sa features.

    Ya. But people are after sa features. Kaya they tend to opt for the grey market units which is more expensive yet fitted with complete features.


    That's why you see more gray market LC's out there compared to local ones. That's why you see more HVX's out there compared to the Gold starexes.

    I'm just thinking na HARI doesn't want to happen what they did with the Diesel Elantra, i30 A/T gas, i30 M/T Diesel. Which is scare people away with the sticker price. Maybe HARI is willing to sacrifice (for now) what forumers and car enthusiasts will say and pray that this Elantra will sell finally.

    The i30 is simply OVERPRICED. At 1M+ ? who would buy a BMW 1-series rip off when there are other options that are better -- Honda Civic FD 2.0S, Toyota Altis 2.0V, Mitsubishi Fortis GT
    Last edited by renzo_d10; April 12th, 2011 at 07:51 PM.

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    #709
    Quote Originally Posted by eljo3025 View Post
    Pero kung close to 900k, pwede na compact car, pickup at MPV mabili with that money.
    Pero I'd still choose the Accent CRDi A/T.

    Why?
    - TOTL
    - Damn fast
    - Lots of features for a subcompact

    Quote Originally Posted by renzo_d10
    Then again, Toyota, Honda, Nissan or whatever car make for that matter is not after on the sales of their TOTL variants since they've got lots of sales already on the lower ones. The TOTL variants are after on a different community of people. People who are after features and convenience. Yes, they may be few but they're not " extinct " ..
    Ito nga yung sinabi ko sa Kia Forte thread..

    Quote Originally Posted by Starex_Gold View Post
    Haha! WTF. Ang mahal ng Rio.

    Siguro nasa hilig nalang yan. Tulad ko, for the price tag of my Tucson, pwede na ako kumuha ng Santa Fe w/c is bigger or Montero Sport GLS SE/GT-V or Everest or Sorento.

    Pero pinili ko yung Tucson Premium. Kasi Premium. Ibig sabihin, mas mataas sa iba (Superior), rare, mahal.

    Siguro yan ang nasa isip ng mga bumili ng Forte dito sa Pilipinas. Hindi kalokohan yun.

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    #710
    hindi kalokohan *SG, kayabangan diba lol. i have nothing against kayabangan, it makes the world go round.

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    #711
    ^That reminds me of Top Gear's reviews on the Volkswagen Phaeton:
    It shows that you have money. But it also shows that you don't know how to use it.
    :hysterical:

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    #712
    It actually looks like a bigger honda city. This car will sell well.

    With the bland 2012 honda civic, weird-looking 2010 mazda 3 and 2012 ford(Fix Or Repair Daily) focus as its competitors, panalo na ang hyundai sa compact sedan category.

    you can critic this car all you want but this will be a best selling car once it hits the showrooms.

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    #713
    Depende naman sa gagamit kung di alam gamitin yung features ng oto niya eh.

    Tanga yung ganun.

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    #714
    Sana gawin din nilang available dito ang beige/brown interior color:






    Another feature I'd like to have in the version they will bring here is the immobilizer.

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    #715
    As much as possible iniiwasan natin yung light colored interior kasi dumihin..

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    Quote Originally Posted by vincem View Post
    It actually looks like a bigger honda city. This car will sell well.

    With the bland 2012 honda civic, weird-looking 2010 mazda 3 and 2012 ford(Fix Or Repair Daily) focus as its competitors, panalo na ang hyundai sa compact sedan category.

    you can critic this car all you want but this will be a best selling car once it hits the showrooms.
    Big claim on that one. But I highly doubt it'll be the "best selling car". In fact, if it does, I'll crap a brick. Malayo pa sila in dethroning the Altis (taxi anyone?) and the Civic (aftermarket support) in the compact car category.

    Only thing weird with the refreshed Mz3 is the grinning fascia which is a love-hate thing (mostly hate), but it wins in interior layout hands down!

    Can't comment pa sa Honda Civic, not much has changed in terms of design, true. But there's the adage of "why fix if its not broken". If Honda manages to up the ante for interior refinement and engine options, that's a tough battle ahead.

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    #717
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7IUyjkmr_w&feature=feedu"]YouTube - 2011 Hyundai Elantra In Depth Review, Start Up/Test Drive, and Overview of Features[/ame]

    US version review...

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    #718
    medyo underwhelming talaga yung spec sheet ng low and mid end model ng elantra, and the accent wears the trademark grill better

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    #719
    Is there any chance that an Elantra CRDi will be available locally?

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    #720
    Quote Originally Posted by bananatype View Post
    Is there any chance that an Elantra CRDi will be available locally?
    No chance till Korea make a diesel variant there.

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