2011 Accent AT - Engine Knock!

[myk384]

ano yung TSB?

Technical Service Bulletin

[mexophilia]

Tumawag sakin SA ko kanina sa erod. May dumating na daw na tsb direct from korea. Combination of new programming etc etc. Mainit init pa daw, sigurado na daw tapos ang knocking and low power issue. Ipapasok ko si accent bukas. Abangan.....

Goodluck sayo Bratski. Sana may magandang balita ka para samin.

[bratski]

*mexophilia,
Ipinasok ko sa hyundai erod yesterday. Iniwan ko yesterday morning and mamayang after lunch ko pa kukunin. Nasa road test pa daw now. Sana nga ok na...sana

*zackek
Hindi naman lahat ng hyundai bulok engine. I also own a 2010 vgt grand starex and 2008 santa fe crdi. So far wala pa naman problema binibigay sakin mga yan. Yung accent lang talaga ang palpak.

[bratski]

*retz,
Walang kinalaman ang brand ng gas. Its mostly station dependent, may ibang station kasi tampered ang supply to make a quick buck. Dito sa case ng accent, hindi gas ang problema kungdi mismong kotse. Kasi kahit blaze na karga ko tumotope pa rin. Others are swearing nag improve ang performance nila sa shell, others sa petron etc.. Personally for me hindi ko gusto performance ng shell fuels.
Sa ngayon petron xcs lang nakakarga sa accent ko and no knocking and low power so far....hopefully.

[batang_raon14]

*retz,
Walang kinalaman ang brand ng gas. Its mostly station dependent, may ibang station kasi tampered ang supply to make a quick buck. Dito sa case ng accent, hindi gas ang problema kungdi mismong kotse. Kasi kahit blaze na karga ko tumotope pa rin. Others are swearing nag improve ang performance nila sa shell, others sa petron etc.. Personally for me hindi ko gusto performance ng shell fuels.
Sa ngayon petron xcs lang nakakarga sa accent ko and no knocking and low power so far....hopefully.

I wish everyone would just look at it that way. Iniinsist pa kasi na sa fuel eh andaming bagong modelo ng sasakyan ito lang naman ang may ganitong issue. What is the coincidence of all other car owners NOT going to the gasoline stations that ACCENT OWNERS go to compared to ALL OTHER NEW CARS not having the engine knocking issue that only the ACCENT RB has? Minsan lang talaga... ambot. Dami rin kasing naniniwalang fuel ang salarin diyusme.

[bratski]

I wish everyone would just look at it that way. Iniinsist pa kasi na sa fuel eh andaming bagong modelo ng sasakyan ito lang naman ang may ganitong issue. What is the coincidence of all other car owners NOT going to the gasoline stations that ACCENT OWNERS go to compared to ALL OTHER NEW CARS not having the engine knocking issue that only the ACCENT RB has? Minsan lang talaga... ambot. Dami rin kasing naniniwalang fuel ang salarin diyusme.

Wala na kasing ma explain ang mga SA kaya ang pinaka easiest scapegoat ay ang fuel. Sabi rin sakin sa hyundai greenhills mag shell v power daw ako....my ass. Oo nalang ako hahahah.
Dapat kasi maging honest nalang sila and aminin na kotse talaga may problema, but that is asking too much

Starting tomorrow palagi ko ng gagamitin si accent para magkaalaman na. Sana tapos na nga problema ko at hindi na bumalik angp low power. Wish me luck hehehehe.

[Retz]

Wala na kasing ma explain ang mga SA kaya ang pinaka easiest scapegoat ay ang fuel. Sabi rin sakin sa hyundai greenhills mag shell v power daw ako....my ass. Oo nalang ako hahahah.
Dapat kasi maging honest nalang sila and aminin na kotse talaga may problema, but that is asking too much

Starting tomorrow palagi ko ng gagamitin si accent para magkaalaman na. Sana tapos na nga problema ko at hindi na bumalik angp low power. Wish me luck hehehehe.

naku eh, pag bumalik pa ung low power, I will insist to them na palitan na ito ng elantra.

[LoBudget]

Hi,

I have been reading all the accent topic here in tsikot and other places. What type of break in did you do on the accent? Is there anything prescribed in the manual? One poster mentioned he and his dad often rode the car really hard off the express way back and forth, so we can consider that hard break-in right?

Those that dont have an issue how have you broken in your car? Would that have any effect on the engine knock issue? As some of you have mentioned tope issue, on one of the links posted it cites premature ignition of the fuel. On another post talking about the same, it mentioned what happens when improper break-in happens, it could result in causing the rings seals to have gaps?

Good to know that the latest(?) releases of the accent are now seemingly trouble free. My cousin just got his on Saturday, i am considering getting one soon... though i will admit if the wife goes for it I would really like the elantra.

[toiboi]

Wala na kasing ma explain ang mga SA kaya ang pinaka easiest scapegoat ay ang fuel. Sabi rin sakin sa hyundai greenhills mag shell v power daw ako....my ass. Oo nalang ako hahahah.
Dapat kasi maging honest nalang sila and aminin na kotse talaga may problema, but that is asking too much

Starting tomorrow palagi ko ng gagamitin si accent para magkaalaman na. Sana tapos na nga problema ko at hindi na bumalik angp low power. Wish me luck hehehehe.

good LUCK sir bratski

[bratski]

*jl48156,
Yung mileage mo na 5kms when you got the unit is not actually 5kms. From the cargo vessel palang to the HARI warehouse dina drive na nila yan. The from the warehouse to the dealerships pa. Ang secret nila dyan is they disconnect the instrument cluster so it cant record the mileage. Halos ganyan lahat ginagawa ng dealers/distributors. Ang hyundai pa naman walang car carrier so in all probability hinataw na yan sa expressway. Kaya most probably na hard break-in na yan. Alam mo naman gaano ka walang pakialam mga drivers nyan kasi hindi naman kanila. Have you seen convoys of brand new cars kung papano nila ihataw?

*lobudget
Most cars sold in the philippines are inferior(specs wise) with their counterparts from other countries. It is simply called cost cutting. To install all these features on the car would mean jacking up the price considerably, unless the distributor would take a profit cut (which is highly unlikely). After all they are in this business to earn money. Know what? That unit you test drove with the disconnected instrument cluster? Chances are very likely it would go to someone.... As they say, it cant hurt if you dont know it.
If you want the eco mode on hyundai cars to be functional and not just merely displays/suggestions, i suggest to take a look at gray market importers. I also have a gray market grand starex with the eco mode. Although its more complete specs wise vs the local units, the eco mode still also serves as a guide and nothing else.

Update:
Drove my accent whole day today, total trip 17kms, total time of trip around 2hours, traffic was really bad. No knocking, no low power. Hope it stays this way as i really hate to visit my dealer again.

[jl48156]

*bratski
Tama po kayo sir Bratski.. Na confirm ko kanina lng sa SA ko na drive na nga yung unit from manila to naga city(bicol) and base sa google manila to naga is around 377Km so natakbo nun bago saakin narelease almost 400km na and confirmed na meron nga daw sila disconnect dun para di gumana ung mileage count. As of now ok nman daw smooth and maganda ung takbo. For me ksi maghihintay pa ako mag dec22 bago ko personally ma drive yung auto ko. hehe.

[bratski]

*bratski
Tama po kayo sir Bratski.. Na confirm ko kanina lng sa SA ko na drive na nga yung unit from manila to naga city(bicol) and base sa google manila to naga is around 377Km so natakbo nun bago saakin narelease almost 400km na and confirmed na meron nga daw sila disconnect dun para di gumana ung mileage count. As of now ok nman daw smooth and maganda ung takbo. For me ksi maghihintay pa ako mag dec22 bago ko personally ma drive yung auto ko. hehe.

Layo na pala narating ng accent mo, anyway as a consolation halos lahat naman ng brand new cars hinaharurot papuntang destination, hindi lang hyundai. Excited ka na siguro ma drive ang accent mo? Kaso parang ang bagal ng takbo ng araw pag naghihintay ka ano? Maganda talaga manakbo ang accent, smooth na malakas pa humatak, huwag lang mag low power issue.

[jl48156]

*bratski
Oo nga parang sobrang tagal pa hindi na ako maka concentrate sa work vacation mode na ksi ako.hehe. Ang hirap talaga pag wala sa pinas buti nlng pinayagan ako mag leave ng 3weeks.. Huwag nman sana tamaan ng knocking or low power issue ung unit ko.. hopefully ung sainyo sir tuloy tuloy na mag ok at hindi na bumalik yung mga issues nyo para nman ma permanently resolve ng tong knocking and low power issue. Para happy lahat nka accent.

[LoBudget]

*jl48156,
Yung mileage mo na 5kms when you got the unit is not actually 5kms. From the cargo vessel palang to the HARI warehouse dina drive na nila yan. The from the warehouse to the dealerships pa

I have seen maybe once a caravan of new cars driven along the highways, but again maybe just once. Most of the time i see them loaded on the trucks (though this is mostly for Mitsubishi, Honda, Toyota and Suzuki). At least with honda (during the first Vti) they were open about the fact that the unit was already broken in and there was really around 200kms on each units meter and they said that they already broke it in at their testing track (maybe like in Discovery Channel's Mega Factories). I dont really like the fact that it seems they are hiding the mileage with these disconnects... this throws off your real service interval and just seems like dishonesty. though again, the SA did tell you when you asked, I wish they tell you that before you buy.

*jl48156,
*lobudget
Most cars sold in the philippines are inferior(specs wise) with their counterparts from other countries. It is simply called cost cutting. To install all these features on the car would mean jacking up the price considerably, unless the distributor would take a profit cut (which is highly unlikely). After all they are in this business to earn money.

I know. thing is, as someone has mentioned, why are we paying pretty much the same price as other countries for a very stripped down version? The US is way farther than the we are from Korea, all their accents are 1.6L, their GLS is $15,941 which is around 667k php and its super loaded with stuff. Sure, take away the auto climate control, tire pressure monitor, heated seats, steering wheel audio controls driver arm rest, 6AT, downgrade the engine to 1.4L, curtain airbags, the two rear disc brakes, traction control, stability control, leather seats... we dont really need those but leave us the fog lights and radio man lang... lol! And maybe throw in the mudguards.

*jl48156,
Know what? That unit you test drove with the disconnected instrument cluster? Chances are very likely it would go to someone.... As they say, it cant hurt if you dont know it.
If you want the eco mode on hyundai cars to be functional and not just merely displays/suggestions, i suggest to take a look at gray market importers. I also have a gray market grand starex with the eco mode. Although its more complete specs wise vs the local units, the eco mode still also serves as a guide and nothing else.

So they made it like the manual version Eco in the US. Then this they could also have totally removed and just retained the radio or something. Or at maybe if they kept it at 1.6L then no knocking issue?

[bratski]

*Lobudget
The reason why we are paying more or less the same money for a stripped down version is because of taxes.

Update day 2,
Total kms travelled 31, still no knocking and no low power. Nagpa fulltank ako kanina even though may 1/4 pa natirang gas. Computed my fuel consumption 5.8km/l. Most of that is nung nag low power pa ako. This time ang pinakarga ko caltex gold.

[Retz]

*Lobudget
The reason why we are paying more or less the same money for a stripped down version is because of taxes.

Update day 2,
Total kms travelled 31, still no knocking and no low power. Nagpa fulltank ako kanina even though may 1/4 pa natirang gas. Computed my fuel consumption 5.8km/l. Most of that is nung nag low power pa ako. This time ang pinakarga ko caltex gold.

so far so good brats.

[bratski]

so far so good brats.

Sana.... Dont wanna keep my hopes up though

[mr.brightside]

grabe yang fuel consumption mo pre, pinaka mababa ko lang nakuha eh naglalaro 9km per liter sa computer yun isang byahe super heavy trafic sa edsa espana inikot ko, mejo mabigat din ang paa ko minsan kasi arangkada ako magmaneho.
kapag nag aactual naman ako yung isang full tank ko pinaka mababa 9.5km per liter 40% heavy traffic yun 60% moderate lang..

kadalasan ko nacocompute sa actual 12.5km/liter sa computer 11km/liter sa actual , city driving yun soft-moderate lang trafic.

actual computation ba yan 5.8km mo sir bratski? or sa computer?

[andretti]

Baba nga niyang 5.8km/l, pero sabi niya FC niya yan during the time na may low power siya.
Pero sir bratski, buti nalang mabilisbilis yung resulta ng sa yo ah...sana pang matagalan na yan.

Ang di ko lang maintindihan, parang alang common latest setting ng ECU lahat ng CASA.. di ba dapat trabaho yan ng HARI?
Or di kaya ibinigay lang sa isang dealer para ma-test muna?

Ayos mga testing units---mga public vehicles, kitang kita naman e .....

[bratski]

*mr brightside
Yes manual computation yung 5.8km/l, sa trip computer 16.4l/100km or nasa 6km/l. Most of that consumption na achieve nung low power ako. Nung dating may engine knock naman nasa 6.5-7km/l ako city driving. Never ko pa na experience umabot sa 8km/l much less 10. Siguro impossible dream na yun. Never din ako nag highway driving sa accent so malabong gumanda fc ko. Puro city driving at short trips yan. At puro traffic pa. Ang pinaka highway driving ko pala sa accent ay sa edsa rush hour traffic.

*andretti
Nagmumukha nga kaming guinea pig sa lagay na ito. Pero i would try anything maayos lang accent ko. Ayoko na magalit. Tapos nako sa phase na yan. Wala rin naman mangyayari kung magagalit ako. Ayoko na tuloy uli bumili ng hyundai. Sa tingin ko binigay lang itong new program sa erod to test. The way they handle things nakaka dismaya talaga.