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  1. #1381
    Quote Originally Posted by s10pao View Post
    parang may mali ata dito. usually kasi ung worst case condition ung dapat baseline mo sa pag-design. kasi wala naman talagang perfect na fuel eh kahit nasa 1st world countries. so usually maglalagay ka ng tolerances sa design mo para ma-ensure na gagana sya on almost ALL conditions or practical scenarios.

    for example, kung sinabi ko sa manual na 93 octane ang minimum na recommended fuel, dapat ang design nila may tolerance na hanggang -3 ng recommended (90~92 octane) maayos ung peformance ng car nila.

    ngayon kung talagang "perfect fuel" ang baseline, dapat di na ni-release dito yang particular model ng accent na yan kasi alam naman ng HARI na hindi kagandahan ang fuel quality dito. naiintindihan ko rin na baka dun sa intention nila na ma-achieve ung best fuel economy, ung perfect fuel ang baseline nila, para ma-market na fuel efficient ung accent. pero again laging may compromise sa pag-design between best performance and actual performance. the least that they could have done is to test this model of accent for a period of time using our fuel and check if performance of their accent will not suffer due to the fuel quality.

    may balita ba tayo kung sa ibang bansa na-encounter na rin itong knocking issue.
    yeah i think thats HARI's big mistake, they quickly released the car without adequate testing. naging guiney pigs tuloy yung mga unang bumili. onga pala. sa states mas lower yung octane rating pa nila. nag kno-knock din kaya yung engine nila dun?

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    #1382
    Quote Originally Posted by bratski View Post
    Ang swerte mo bro, papano ginawa mo at napapalitan mo yung ecu? Ilang months ka nag antay? Share your secrets naman
    Malapit lng kasi sa place of work at residence ko kaya lagi ko dinadala nung una puro update update lng nakakafrustrate binigyan ko ultimatum nung december pag nde pa rin naayos yan I'll sue them. Chineck ung auto ulit wholeday nasa kanila tinest drive nila ang findings may delay daw sa acceleration nagkusa naman sinabi p apalitan ecu kasi di na tinatanggap ung updates.ang promise sa kin january dadating replacement ecm at malabo na december due to the holidays. Tumupad naman 1st week of january ni replace ecm ko so far ok si accent no knocking no low power although pag cold start medyo maingay ung engine which I think normal naman pag reach nya optimum temp tahimik na ulit. Sana eto na nga ung permanent fix.nakaka dishearten ung mababasa about the accent dito pero pag ok sya looks wise performance sulit sya.decent fc. Sumasabay nga sa mga 1.8 ang engine.time will tell na lng ang durability nito.since ang dami na rin accent sa daan future is looking good with regards to spare parts.sana lang tumino tlga hari at mga dealer.

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    #1383
    Quote Originally Posted by NighthawkGT View Post
    yeah i think thats HARI's big mistake, they quickly released the car without adequate testing. naging guiney pigs tuloy yung mga unang bumili. onga pala. sa states mas lower yung octane rating pa nila. nag kno-knock din kaya yung engine nila dun?
    Wala naman reported cases sa US. Although sa US kasi, GDi engine ang sa kanila..

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    #1384
    Quote Originally Posted by rbc.cerulean View Post
    Malapit lng kasi sa place of work at residence ko kaya lagi ko dinadala nung una puro update update lng nakakafrustrate binigyan ko ultimatum nung december pag nde pa rin naayos yan I'll sue them. Chineck ung auto ulit wholeday nasa kanila tinest drive nila ang findings may delay daw sa acceleration nagkusa naman sinabi p apalitan ecu kasi di na tinatanggap ung updates.ang promise sa kin january dadating replacement ecm at malabo na december due to the holidays. Tumupad naman 1st week of january ni replace ecm ko so far ok si accent no knocking no low power although pag cold start medyo maingay ung engine which I think normal naman pag reach nya optimum temp tahimik na ulit. Sana eto na nga ung permanent fix.nakaka dishearten ung mababasa about the accent dito pero pag ok sya looks wise performance sulit sya.decent fc. Sumasabay nga sa mga 1.8 ang engine.time will tell na lng ang durability nito.since ang dami na rin accent sa daan future is looking good with regards to spare parts.sana lang tumino tlga hari at mga dealer.
    Bro rbc.cerulean, ganyan din ang napapansin ko sa accent 1.4 AT ko na acquire namin last 11/10/11 at ang OD nya ay nasa 1.6K na. Maririnig mo talaga ang faint sa sound ng engine knock pag cold start, pero pag mainit na ang engine ( siguro pag nag circulate na ang engine oil nya) tahimik na ulit. Pero pag OC ka pipilitin mo talagang wala kang marining na engine knock (hehehe).

    Meron kaming Mazda Power Van E2000 Gasoline. Simula ng bilhin namin nung 1997 pag cold start ang lakas ng engine knock (parang diesel engine ang tunog) nya pero nawawala din siya pag mainit na ang makina at hanggang ngayon eh ginagamit pa rin namin siya.
    So sana ganun na lang ang mangyari sa Accent 1.4 AT ko faint engine knock at di siya mag low power.

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    #1385
    Sorry Double post

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    #1386
    Ano ba sound kapag may knocking issue?

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    #1387
    Quote Originally Posted by bratski View Post
    I dunno about that one. Kasi ako kahit blaze na karga ko (100 octane) nag naknock parin. Ngayon after the update wala ng knock kahit 93 octane lang. Magdusa nga lang ako sa low power.

    Paging mexophilia and jayrb, kumusta na mga accents niyo?
    Bro bratski, my unit is scheduled to have the ECM replacement tomorrow. it took almost a month and a half. I'm not sure if it has any bearing but i was informed that i'm already scheduled for replacement a day after i sent a formal complaint letter through an email to the higher management including the president and owner of Greenhills dealership. You may want to consider that option also because i'm pretty sure the higher management of the dealership is not that fully aware of this issues we have so kelangan cguro cla ma inform para cla mismo ang kumalampag sa mga tao nla and HARI to resolve this asap through ECM replacement. I was even called up by their VP for aftersales to inform me that i'm already scheduled for replacement tomorrow and he'll personally supervise it. Hopefully i could provide good feedback after the replacement.

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    #1388
    Di yan maglo-low power unless pa-update mo yung ECU . Since wala pang definite solution, avoid the update.

    Quote Originally Posted by TANO_2 View Post
    mangyari sa Accent 1.4 AT ko faint engine knock at di siya mag low power.

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    #1389
    Quote Originally Posted by maxhedrum View Post
    Di yan maglo-low power unless pa-update mo yung ECU . Since wala pang definite solution, avoid the update.
    I will keep that in mind Bro. Maxhedrum... I'm not bothered by the faint engine knock, mahilig din kasi akong humataw hehehe kaya ayaw kong ma experience ang low power. Thanks for the advice.

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    #1390
    * rbc
    So kailangan pala takutin pa sila ng demandahan para kumilos?

    *jayrb
    Buti ka pa papalitan narin. Nag email narin ako sa HARI yesterday and may reply na sila. Kinuha contact numbers ko at babalikan daw ako. Sana maka expect din ako ng calls na ready na yung ecm replacement ko. Wishful thinking. Ill probably give them till the end of the month kung wala pang action i guess suing them is the only alternative. Nung nag email ka pala sa owners ng greenhills gaano katagal bago naaksyunan?
    Nakaaway ko yang SA dyan sa greenhills dahil sa kapalpakan nila, this time hindi accent ang pina service ko. Sinabi ko im never going back there again. And if given the chance, bibilhin ko yang hyundai greenhills na yan just to fire those people.
    Last edited by bratski; January 18th, 2012 at 10:26 PM.

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    #1391
    *jayrb, provide us updates please. para sa mga nakaka experience ng knock / low power. bakit di na lang magpadala ang HARI ng substantial numbers ng ECU / ECM part para madali sa mga accent owners na may said problems?

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    #1392
    Quote Originally Posted by erj22 View Post
    *jayrb, provide us updates please. para sa mga nakaka experience ng knock / low power. bakit di na lang magpadala ang HARI ng substantial numbers ng ECU / ECM part para madali sa mga accent owners na may said problems?
    Cost cutting, ang laki ng malulugi nila kung lahat ng may problema papalitan ang ecm. Yung mga talagang malalakas lang magreklamo at magdedemanda na ang inuuna

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    #1393
    ^yun lang. kaso sa mga nagkaproblema / magkakaproblema (huwag naman sana...) di ba sila nalulugi? time, money, gas, most especially, effort. meron bang representative man lang ng HARI ang nakakabasa dito sa forum? naaawa tuloy ako sa mga nagkaproblema. tsk! :boo: HARI

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    #1394
    Quote Originally Posted by NighthawkGT View Post
    yeah i think thats HARI's big mistake, they quickly released the car without adequate testing. naging guiney pigs tuloy yung mga unang bumili. onga pala. sa states mas lower yung octane rating pa nila. nag kno-knock din kaya yung engine nila dun?
    nag-search ako sa net so far wala ako nakikita na complaints about engine knock.

    kung ako lang ay maraming resources (money), idedemanda ko talaga ang HARI. kasi ayaw na nga nila mag-recall, diretso pa rin sila sa pagbenta ng accent units nila. napakagahaman naman nila! wala ba gusto magreklamo sa mga media outlets tulad ng TV at radio?

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    #1395
    Quote Originally Posted by bratski View Post
    And if given the chance, bibilhin ko yang hyundai greenhills na yan just to fire those people.
    grabe ka palang magalit sir bratski....hahaha. pwede ba kitang gawing reference sa demand letter na padadala ko sa HARI para lalo silang magulat? this saturday i'm planning to meet Service Manager at GM ng dealer ko. in my case, napalitan na ecm ko, pero may low power pa din ang kotse ko, mine is M/T. kaya kung palpak uli ang gagawin nilang replacement i'm sure lalo na silang malulugi, and the owners as well sa pabalikbalik at abala. kaya dapat talaga sigurado na sila sa gagawin nilang resolution.

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    #1396
    Quote Originally Posted by erj22 View Post
    ^yun lang. kaso sa mga nagkaproblema / magkakaproblema (huwag naman sana...) di ba sila nalulugi? time, money, gas, most especially, effort. meron bang representative man lang ng HARI ang nakakabasa dito sa forum? naaawa tuloy ako sa mga nagkaproblema. tsk! :boo: HARI
    Not everyone has time and money to spare para sa demandahan. Ako for one wala akong panahon mag attend ng court hearings. Besides nasa Pilipinas tayo. Pera pera lang ang katapat ng justice system natin. Pag nag drag yang mga cases na yan malamang mas mahal pa sa unit cost ng accent gagastusin, so not worth it. Tsaka ang binabangga natin malaking corporation, kung paubusan ng pera ako pa mauna maubusan kaysa sila. The only positve outcome i can see from this is publicity. Dyan sila masisira kaya magkakaron ng settlement out of court.

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    #1397
    Quote Originally Posted by WalterBishop View Post
    grabe ka palang magalit sir bratski....hahaha. pwede ba kitang gawing reference sa demand letter na padadala ko sa HARI para lalo silang magulat? this saturday i'm planning to meet Service Manager at GM ng dealer ko. in my case, napalitan na ecm ko, pero may low power pa din ang kotse ko, mine is M/T. kaya kung palpak uli ang gagawin nilang replacement i'm sure lalo na silang malulugi, and the owners as well sa pabalikbalik at abala. kaya dapat talaga sigurado na sila sa gagawin nilang resolution.
    Nakaka highblood na kasi. Yung kalbaryo ko sa accent ko nagsimula mula pa lang ng purchase date until now tapos wala paring solution. Tapos last month nagkaproblema santa fe ko dahil nagbara egr and nag low power, nagpa schedule ako ng service and pagdating ko sinabi lang sakin na walang ni-isang pumasok na technician/mechanic dahil christmas party daw the night before. Tapos yung lecheng SA na yun nung may dumating na vehicle ng celebrity/basketball player inasikaso agad at pina deretso sa work area. Talagang nag high blood ako at umalis nalang kaysa na may magawa pako dun sa SA na yun. Mag papasko pa naman baka ma precinto pa ako. Patong patong na kasi. Tapos later tumatawag crm ng greenhills asking me why i didnt bring my unit for appointment...WTF?!!!
    Sobrang unprofessional na sila at uncoordinated pa. Somehow my mesages got to the upper management ng greenhills and nag sosorry bigla yung P&$5-!($ SA na yun. Kaya ako im never buying hyundai again. Maganda nga yung products nila bulok naman service. Sa hyundai erod ganun din, napakabagal pag pms and service, samantalang wala naman gaano nagpapagawa dun.

  18. #1398
    ever wondered why the new accent has a price increase of 20,000?

    it goes to the new ECM. hehehe.

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    #1399
    sir bratski kala ko dito lang sa dealer ko ang palpak ang service..(souther luzon) wala pa naman hubby ko ako lahat sumasalo ng problema ng accent...sa car wala ko problema so far sa hatak nya..may dent kasi sya kaya pinasok ko sa casa tapos alam kong ginamit nila dahil nadagdagan ang mga scratches at yung mileage went up..syempre walang umamin..wag daw ako magworry dahil lalabas yung car na flawless..but up to now di pa tapos..gusto ko na nga sumugod sa bigboss nila.. :-(

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    #1400
    Hyundai's new 2013 Genesis Coupe: A good thing made even better

    "First on the line of improvements is the newly re-calibrated engine. The 3.8 liter V6 now makes 348 horsepower and 400 Nm of torque on premium fuel - a whopping 42 ponies and 39 Nm of twist more than previously. Despite featuring direct injection, the engine can still run on regular unleaded, ***thanks to sophisticated anti-knock technology.***"

    Glad to see they have been investing their time to resolving the knock issue... wait this if for the Genesis did it have knock issues coz all i've been reading is about the Accent?! I would really like to see this happen for the Accent for the sake of those of you that have been dealing with the issues. I just find it a bit sarcastic on their end to be boasting of this while not recognizing and resolving the issue of the local Accent. But who knows, maybe this is the sign that they have somehow figured out what is wrong.... cross your fingers.

    OT: who copied who? the ford fusion or the hyundai facelifted models? They have the same frontage...

2011 Accent AT - Engine Knock!