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    #741
    Quote Originally Posted by pup2 View Post
    I hope our friend Lui is feeding back these conversations to his bosses at HARI. Ganito pa lang kaaga and puro disappointed-sounding na ang mga feedback dito ah.
    nku sir sinasbi ko nga na ayusin kahit ung upuan lang muna. ewan ko ba.
    Last edited by lui; November 24th, 2007 at 07:15 PM. Reason: grammar

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    #742
    nku dami na tlaga disappointed dito sa grand starex namen.... siguro in time ilalabas din ung mga features na gusto nating mga taga tsikot. anyway kung gusto nyo nman ng van tapos flexible pwede din ung APV. kahit 2 pa po katumbas lang ng isang grans starex crdi

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    #743
    Pati yung carnival stripped down version ang nandito -- kulang nga airbags kahit mas mataas ang presyo dito -- wala pang support.

    Parang mas OK pa bumili ng 2 kotse ngayon kesa mag van.

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    #744
    carnival ok lang naman eh... moonroof and other saftey features lang naman kulang... pero kung carnival lang naman... grand starex nalang ako. hehe! pero kung walang revised version, WAG NA LANG! hehe...

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    #745
    Quote Originally Posted by xTrememan View Post
    carnival ok lang naman eh... moonroof and other saftey features lang naman kulang... pero kung carnival lang naman... grand starex nalang ako. hehe! pero kung walang revised version, WAG NA LANG! hehe...
    xTrememan, wait mo na lang Gen. 5 na STAREX.

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    #746
    Yah. They might come out with it ... in another 10 years!

    I wouldn't put 'lang' and 'safety features' in the same sentence ...

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    #747
    Quote Originally Posted by kokey View Post
    xTrememan, wait mo na lang Gen. 5 na STAREX.
    Baka yung Gen 5 na Starex wala nang airbags, disc breaks, ABS, tsaka 5 seater nalang... hahaha! LOLZ! Nagagandahan ako sa bagong Rexton 2... halos magkasing price lang yung Grand Starex Gold tsaka top of the line ng rexton II... ganda pa ng features! Guys what do you think? Hehe!

    Kokey ano ok kaya yun?

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    #748
    What is the big difference between Innova and starex with reference to their specs below. Seems like Starex has the edge over Innova since it has higher classification of performance esp. DSL to DSL.
    Ano kaya reason ng Toyota kung bakit mas mababa output ng Innova compared to its predecessors.

    Innova 2.5 D4D DSL

    Engine 2.5 DOHC 16V I4 2.5 DOHC 16V I4 2.5 DOHC 16V I4 2.5 DOHC 16V I4
    Maximum Output (bhp * rpm) 102 * 3600 102 * 3600 102 * 3600 102 * 3600
    Maximum Torque (Nm * rpm) 260 * 1600-2400 200 * 1400-3200 (MT)
    260 * 1600-2400 (AT) 200 * 1400-3200 (MT)
    260 * 1600-2400 (AT) 200 * 1400-3200
    Fuel Type / Recom. Octane Diesel Diesel Diesel Diesel
    Fuel System / Aspiration Common Rail / T Common Rail / T Common Rail / T Common Rail / T
    Fuel Mileage (km/L) -- 11.27 (AT, test) -- --
    Transmission 4-speed AT 5-speed MT
    4-speed AT 5-speed MT
    4-speed AT 5-speed MT

    Innova 2.0 VVTI Gas

    Engine 2.0 DOHC 16V I4 2.0 DOHC 16V I4 2.0 DOHC 16V I4
    Maximum Output (bhp * rpm) 136 * 5600 136 * 5600 136 * 5600
    Maximum Torque (Nm * rpm) 182 * 4000 182 * 4000 182 * 4000
    Fuel Type / Recom. Octane Gasoline / 93~ Gasoline / 93~ Gasoline / 93~
    Fuel System / Aspiration VVTi, EFI / NA VVTi, EFI / NA VVTi, EFI / NA
    Fuel Mileage (km/L) 8.00 (AT, test) 8.82 (MT, test) --
    Transmission 4-speed AT 5-speed MT
    4-speed AT 5-speed MT

    Starex DSL

    Engine 2.5 SOHC 8V I4 2.5 SOHC 8V I4 2.5 SOHC 8V I4
    Maximum Output (bhp * rpm) 85 * 4000 85 * 4000 85 * 4000
    Maximum Torque (Nm * rpm) 170 * 2200 170 * 2200 170 * 2200
    Fuel Type / Recom. Octane Diesel Diesel Diesel
    Fuel System / Aspiration MFI / T MFI / T MFI / T
    Fuel Mileage (km/L) -- 6.23 (AT, test) --
    Transmission 4-speed AT 5-speed MT
    4-speed AT 5-speed MT

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    #749
    Quote Originally Posted by pup2 View Post
    I wouldn't put 'lang' and 'safety features' in the same sentence ...
    Safety features lang pala, no big deal.

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    #750
    Quote Originally Posted by numbah5 View Post
    alam niyo, alam ko na kung bakit napakaoverpriced ng Grand Starex.. it's because of the TCI variants... hindi ko alam bakit nirelease ng HARI TCI variants dito eh Isuzu na lang yata nagbebenta dito ng non-CRDi engine (Crosswind) aside from HARI.. eh ang nearest competitor ng Grand Starex , Innova at Hiace, puro nakaCRDi engine...
    Well, baka naman kung wala yung TCI variants, ganun pa din kataas yung CRDI variants, lalong nawalan sila nang pwedeng ibenta...

    I've a feeling they retained the TCI's so that they could compete with the lower ranged, well relatively lower ranged, vans. Despite having a D-4D powerplant, the Innova/Hiace engine produces 102hp/260Nm torque while the Grand Starex's TCI produces 101hp/232Nm torque.

2008 Hyundai Starex (Gen. 4)