2008 Hyundai Starex (Gen. 4)

[jaggerx3]

What would you suggest?
Nag oblong yung isang Kumho ko so pinalit ko yung Nexen na spare ko na sobrang kapal pa. Should i buy a cheap tire for spare o hanap ako ng second hand na same tire na lang? Sa spare ko lang ilalagay naman.

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[StockEngine]

my spare is 50000km old lol. but its useable in case of emergency. ill replace it with the better tire from the existing 4 once i replace my current set.

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[benchph1]

Besides the possible clogged brake line on the affected side, baka nga may “kink” ung brake line causing the brake fluid to not flow properly. Either sinasadya or di sinasadya.


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[jrln]

Besides the possible clogged brake line on the affected side, baka nga may “kink” ung brake line causing the brake fluid to not flow properly. Either sinasadya or di sinasadya.


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Another update on my brakes problem.

I went to Goodgear in Pasay yesterday to have it inspected and if possible for them to do flushing.
They looked at it and found no problem with the line.
The chief mechanic, Arnel, advised me to go to another Hyundai casa for reset or reprogramming because it could really be the ABS module.
He also said that OBD scans may not really get the ABS module problem. The appropriate tool is the scan tool of Hyundai.

Goodgear does not have the ABS module but contacted another shop which sells it for Php 44k but without warranty because they will not install it. The said part is better installed by the casa because it needs brake bleeding with an instrument.

I then went to Hyundai Manila Bay but the service advisor said that most likely they will also conclude it to be the ABS module also and advised me to save the money for the re-scan (?) to buy the needed part. They do not accept parts bought from outside.

I am now at the point of deciding to buy the part from Hyundai and have it installed. Hyundai Las Pinas said they can give me 15% discount for the parts and P3500 for the labor. This will come to around P56k in all. It will just take 1 or 2 days to deliver the part.

Any last minute advise/s from this forum will surely be appreciated before I commit myself to this expense tomorrow.

[Automahn]

Another update on my brakes problem.

I went to Goodgear in Pasay yesterday to have it inspected and if possible for them to do flushing.
They looked at it and found no problem with the line.
The chief mechanic, Arnel, advised me to go to another Hyundai casa for reset or reprogramming because it could really be the ABS module.
He also said that OBD scans may not really get the ABS module problem. The appropriate tool is the scan tool of Hyundai.

Goodgear does not have the ABS module but contacted another shop which sells it for Php 44k but without warranty because they will not install it. The said part is better installed by the casa because it needs brake bleeding with an instrument.

I then went to Hyundai Manila Bay but the service advisor said that most likely they will also conclude it to be the ABS module also and advised me to save the money for the re-scan (?) to buy the needed part. They do not accept parts bought from outside.

I am now at the point of deciding to buy the part from Hyundai and have it installed. Hyundai Las Pinas said they can give me 15% discount for the parts and P3500 for the labor. This will come to around P56k in all. It will just take 1 or 2 days to deliver the part.

Any last minute advise/s from this forum will surely be appreciated before I commit myself to this expense tomorrow.

One of the global moderators at the Santa Fe Club Phils forum has a Hyundai GDS (scan tool). I'll try to get his contact number. He can scan your GS.

[jrln]

One of the global moderators at the Santa Fe Club Phils forum has a Hyundai GDS (scan tool). I'll try to get his contact number. He can scan your GS.

Thanks. Sana nga ma scan ng independent source.

[benchph1]

Basta pang ilalim its a big no no sa casa. Sa presyo ng parts ka mamumulubi.


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[benchph1]

The thing is, casa “concludes” that the ABS module is the culprit for your dilemma. But, they are also not 100% sure that by pushing through with this procedure it will solve the problem.

Hindi mo rin masisi ang casa kasi this kind of problem is uncommon so they wont keep a spare abs module to swap out for tests like this.

Nagkataon lang na sa GS mo nangyari and you have to fork out a big amount to solve the issue.

Since you already had a second opinion with reputable shops and they all seem to pinpoint the ABS module, for your peace of mind go ahead and replace it.

Hintayin din natin sagot ng iba they might have other opinions about your case



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[jrln]

The thing is, casa “concludes” that the ABS module is the culprit for your dilemma. But, they are also not 100% sure that by pushing through with this procedure it will solve the problem.

Hindi mo rin masisi ang casa kasi this kind of problem is uncommon so they wont keep a spare abs module to swap out for tests like this.

Nagkataon lang na sa GS mo nangyari and you have to fork out a big amount to solve the issue.

Since you already had a second opinion with reputable shops and they all seem to pinpoint the ABS module, for your peace of mind go ahead and replace it.

Hintayin din natin sagot ng iba they might have other opinions about your case



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Actually, fourtimes ko na kasi dinala sa Hyundai Las Pinas. Di ko lang nasabi dito earlier.

The first time, they recommended re-surfacing of the disk which I had them done.
The second time, they recommended replacement of suspension parts which I did not believe so I went to a Shell repair shop to have the suspension inspected and turned out that the suspension is solid. Pina-replace ko nalang ang brake pads sa Shell.
The third time, I think Hyundai did the reprogramming of the ABS which seem to work after a few trips but it returned. I'm saying ''seem'' because I was able to use the unit a few times only (Sundays) and short trips lang.
When I noticed that the front right side was not braking again, fourth time, they recommended replacement of the ABS module na.

During the 3rd and 4th time, it took them quite some time tinkering with my GS before concluding the replacement. They might have done the re-set/reprogram during these times but I'm not very sure because I'm not allowed at the service area all the time. BUt during the last check, I saw them use a wireless tablet to diagnose the problem. Just don't know kung paano naka-connect sa GS yung scanner nila na wireless - bluetooth, WIFI, etc???

[glenn_duke]

Actually, fourtimes ko na kasi dinala sa Hyundai Las Pinas. Di ko lang nasabi dito earlier.

The first time, they recommended re-surfacing of the disk which I had them done.
The second time, they recommended replacement of suspension parts which I did not believe so I went to a Shell repair shop to have the suspension inspected and turned out that the suspension is solid. Pina-replace ko nalang ang brake pads sa Shell.
The third time, I think Hyundai did the reprogramming of the ABS which seem to work after a few trips but it returned. I'm saying ''seem'' because I was able to use the unit a few times only (Sundays) and short trips lang.
When I noticed that the front right side was not braking again, fourth time, they recommended replacement of the ABS module na.

During the 3rd and 4th time, it took them quite some time tinkering with my GS before concluding the replacement. They might have done the re-set/reprogram during these times but I'm not very sure because I'm not allowed at the service area all the time. BUt during the last check, I saw them use a wireless tablet to diagnose the problem. Just don't know kung paano naka-connect sa GS yung scanner nila na wireless - bluetooth, WIFI, etc???

Or pwede rin sila nakasira ng abs module mo sa kakalikot nila. Try mo Hyundai Sucat, for a fourth opinion, but dont tell them anything, let them diagnose the problem if it will be the same abs module.

[yebo]

the abs module is an electro-mechanical device. di naman nabubuksan yun. a hydraulic tube connects from the brake master and 4 hydraulic tubes connect to the wheel brake pistons. there is also a wire harness that connects it to the computer box. there is nothing there that you can "kalikot" and go wrong. it is a solenoid valve block. pretty solid. UNLESS the valves are the ones that go wrong.

my guess, and i am no newcommer to hydraulics, is that the particular valve going to the front right wheel brake is stuck closed. it happens. the thing with hydraulics is either there is pressure or not, or too low a flow to effect an action. there is no pressure because the valve is stuck closed.

and no they do not do repairs on those blocks nor replace valves. i would if i knew the part numbers and know where they sell them. but the casa? fat chance.

[jrln]

the abs module is an electro-mechanical device. di naman nabubuksan yun. a hydraulic tube connects from the brake master and 4 hydraulic tubes connect to the wheel brake pistons. there is also a wire harness that connects it to the computer box. there is nothing there that you can "kalikot" and go wrong. it is a solenoid valve block. pretty solid. UNLESS the valves are the ones that go wrong.

my guess, and i am no newcommer to hydraulics, is that the particular valve going to the front right wheel brake is stuck closed. it happens. the thing with hydraulics is either there is pressure or not, or too low a flow to effect an action. there is no pressure because the valve is stuck closed.

and no they do not do repairs on those blocks nor replace valves. i would if i knew the part numbers and know where they sell them. but the casa? fat chance.

thanks for the info.

my concern now is what if it still does not work even if the ABS module is replaced? will they return the old unit and refund me the amount of the module assembly?

[jrln]

Or pwede rin sila nakasira ng abs module mo sa kakalikot nila. Try mo Hyundai Sucat, for a fourth opinion, but dont tell them anything, let them diagnose the problem if it will be the same abs module.

You must have read my mind.
Yes, I plan to go there tomorrow for a fifth opinion before I commit myself to the P 56k expense at Hyundai Las Pinas. Fifth opinion kasi magiging pang-fifth ang Hyundai Sucat tomorrow.

So far, the opinions of the following sources are:

Hyundai Las Pinas - replace
Berima Diesel - ABS module not faulty
Goodgear chief mechanic - replace
Hyundai Manila Bay - replace

[glenn_duke]

You must have read my mind.
Yes, I plan to go there tomorrow for a fifth opinion before I commit myself to the P 56k expense at Hyundai Las Pinas. Fifth opinion kasi magiging pang-fifth ang Hyundai Sucat tomorrow.

So far, the opinions of the following sources are:

Hyundai Las Pinas - replace
Berima Diesel - ABS module not faulty
Goodgear chief mechanic - replace
Hyundai Manila Bay - replace

Napalitan naba brake fluid mo?
When and where?

[Automahn]

Actually, fourtimes ko na kasi dinala sa Hyundai Las Pinas. Di ko lang nasabi dito earlier.

The first time, they recommended re-surfacing of the disk which I had them done.
The second time, they recommended replacement of suspension parts which I did not believe so I went to a Shell repair shop to have the suspension inspected and turned out that the suspension is solid. Pina-replace ko nalang ang brake pads sa Shell.
The third time, I think Hyundai did the reprogramming of the ABS which seem to work after a few trips but it returned. I'm saying ''seem'' because I was able to use the unit a few times only (Sundays) and short trips lang.
When I noticed that the front right side was not braking again, fourth time, they recommended replacement of the ABS module na.

During the 3rd and 4th time, it took them quite some time tinkering with my GS before concluding the replacement. They might have done the re-set/reprogram during these times but I'm not very sure because I'm not allowed at the service area all the time. BUt during the last check, I saw them use a wireless tablet to diagnose the problem. Just don't know kung paano naka-connect sa GS yung scanner nila na wireless - bluetooth, WIFI, etc???

The GDS connects via wifi.

[benchph1]

Most casas won’t give any guarantee in your case. Process of elimination lang yan. I’ll be dumbfounded myself if it still not the ABS module.


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[StockEngine]

whats the abs module partnumber? i can check the price in a few days..

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[Automahn]

whats the abs module partnumber? i can check the price in a few days..

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If I'm not mistaken, it's 58920-4H710. ;)

[glenn_duke]

If I'm not mistaken, it's 58920-4H710. ;)

http://ipartskorea.com/genuine-hydra...rex-2007-2015/

[Wh1stl3r]

If I'm not mistaken, it's 58920-4H710. ;)

Probably right sir but Seiring says there are also other part numbers for the ABS module depending on your VIN. IIRC 3-4 part numbers. All expensive unfortunately.