Wondering Why there is no Honda CRV Diesel Variant here in the Philippines..

[nugundam93]

just to add a bit din to otep's post...

yeah, not even the new diesel 5-series ng bmw is exempt from the dirty diesel. i was following one last saturday sa mckinley, bubuga siya ng smoke when shifting.

[RafRaf]

just sharing... lastest from autoindustriya.com news...


In its debut year, Honda’s 2.2 i-CTDi diesel engine has won the 2.0-2.5 liter category of the International Engine of the Year Awards, an event commonly referred to as the ‘Engine Oscars’. Meanwhile, the 1.0 liter Insight IMA engine has scooped another win in the sub 1.0 litre category. This is the 10th award for the 1.0 liter Insight IMA engine, making the Honda hybrid the most successful engine in the seven year history of the International Engine of the Year Awards.

For the first time the 2.2 i-CTDi diesel engine (found in the Accord, CR-V and soon the FR-V) has won its category. Honda’s first ever home-grown diesel is recognised as being one of the most all round fuel efficient and silent engines of its type on the market today. “Power, economy, sound – everything puts this diesel at the top of four-cylinder engines” are the words that the International Jury used in describing this engine.

Honda is again recognised as being amongst the best engine manufacturers, winning one in four possible awards in the seven year history of this annual ceremony. The judges are made up of 56 leading motoring journalists from 26 different countries. Engines are awarded points based on their characteristics of fuel economy, noise, smoothness, performance and driveability.

[kiper]

dapat maconvince muna ng mga manufacturers and politicians ang fuel suppliers natin para ma-appreciate namin natin dito sa pinas ang mga CRDi's na yan.

wala pang diesel ang escape pero ang focus meron na.. 2.0 Turbo ata..hehehe

[marv0083]

well in my view and from wat ive heard

pag nilinis ang diesel fuel natin d2 sa pinas parang gasoline narin ang price nya

correct me if im wrong

[fellouie]

cguro the reason is that we have a low quality diesel fuel here.. and madaling masira ang engine.. opinion lang po..

[oldblue]

kailan ba naglabas ng diesel honda dito? gusto nila prestigous sila. tagal naging successful yun revo, adventure, crosswind AUV diesel pero ayaw pa din nila makisali sa Market Share. They're trying to make the honda models here somewhat luxurious pagdating sa riding comfort.

[DacoTyan]

A poster at another thread (can't recall...) quoted an petroleum company employee as saying Euro 4 compliant diesel will cost more than gasoline. Maybe petroleum companies should try selling 2 or more grades of diesel like they do with gasoline and see what how consumers will react. Then, well... MAYBE, car companies MIGHT bring more diesel engined vehicles.

[ECG]

i agree.
maybe its got something to do with the diesel fuel available in the Philippines
baka magka engine problem tapos mapahiya sila.

[Ram 001]

Maybe they think Filipinos are richer than Europeans, We can afford to buy more gas than diesel. hehehehe...

[ale828]

Nope, their market research shows that the filipinos are a Pro-US society thus diesel cars and SUV's are only a small portion of what filipinos want. We tend to emulate what the US does so it menas we are more of the Gas oriented people rather than the european kind which favors more on diesel.

[yellahfellah]

I know that this thread is more than 10 years old, but meron bang bagong update sa issue na ito?

Considering that we already have EURO IV Diesel Fuel here (UniOil, Seaoil, Petron, Shell, Caltex), is there any news if car manufacturers will be bringing in their diesel variants here (CRV, RAV4, Mazda2, etc.)?

[niky]

I know that this thread is more than 10 years old, but meron bang bagong update sa issue na ito?

Considering that we already have EURO IV Diesel Fuel here (UniOil, Seaoil, Petron, Shell, Caltex), is there any news if car manufacturers will be bringing in their diesel variants here (CRV, RAV4, Mazda2, etc.)?

Most of the Japanese don't make their own transverse diesel engines. They're typically farmed out to specialists in Europe. Even those that do them in-house do them at European factories.

To import the diesel models from Europe... or even just the engines for installation in cars in Thailand... would cost a lot of money... and the resulting products would never be competitive against the Thai-made SUVs... which already cost the same as the gasoline CRV/RAV4/etcetera... sometimes less.

[kevinworld]

There are diesel crvs, city's and corollas in India. And they are cheap. Stop their excuses, bring in the diesel engines.

[Walter]

By all means bring the diesel sedans and crossovers that are available elsewhere. Then people will complain about the high price. Look at the Toyota Innova, everyone wanted this and that, larger engine, 6 airbags, etc. Then Toyota brings those features and now people are screaming about the high price increase.

[niky]

There are diesel crvs, city's and corollas in India. And they are cheap. Stop their excuses, bring in the diesel engines.

As viper has said: Look at the price of diesel Peugeots. And the diesel VW Polo (which is made in India) and look at how expensive the Spin diesel and Tata 1.3 diesels are (they use the same Fiat 1.3 diesel, sourced from India.)

Diesels from Europe AND India are expensive.

The only way to get cheap diesel is from Free Trade Agreement partners. Meaning the ASEAN and Korea. And they don't make diesel CRVs in either place.

[viper888]

Have you guys seen the prices of the peugeots? Thats what you should expect from a diesel honda/mazda etc

Ford already gave up with the diesel focus.


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[dct]

Bakit kaya yung innova, fortuner or montero (v6 pa nga ang gasoline) konti lang difference sa gas and diesel na siguradong mababawi mo yung cost for few years. Pero yung iba gaya ng mga example nyo ang layo ng difference

[akosidab]

Bakit kaya yung innova, fortuner or montero (v6 pa nga ang gasoline) konti lang difference sa gas and diesel na siguradong mababawi mo yung cost for few years. Pero yung iba gaya ng mga example nyo ang layo ng difference

Siguro dahil sa dito gawa yung innova kaya mas mura? But not sure kung ung engine eh dto din ginagwa

[niky]

Bakit kaya yung innova, fortuner or montero (v6 pa nga ang gasoline) konti lang difference sa gas and diesel na siguradong mababawi mo yung cost for few years. Pero yung iba gaya ng mga example nyo ang layo ng difference

Uh... the difference is not "konti".

The Fort 2.7 is 100k cheaper than the 2.5 diesel... and the 2.7 makes a hell of a lot more power than the 2.5.

If the 3.0 was available in 4x2, the price difference would likely be around 250k to the 2.7.

The 4.0 V6 Prado is nearly a MILLION pesos cheaper than the 3.0 diesel.

Pajero V6... with nearly a hundred horses more than the 3.2 DiD... 200k less.

The Montero V6, if I recall right, also cost less. Looking it up... it was, in fact, the cheapest Montero Sport variant at the time... the only cheaper variants at the time were the remaindered stock of non-VGT Montero Sports.

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CRDIs cost big bucks. The only reason they sell SUVs almost exclusively in CRDI is because buyers won't buy big gasoline engines here because gas is expensive. And the additional 100-200k is easy to justify if you are selling a truck for 1.5 - 2m.

If you are selling a small car for just 500-600k, an extra 100-200k is already a 20%+++ price increase. Hard to justify. Especially when small cars already get excellent economy.

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Don't expect a front-wheel drive CR-V diesel to cost less than 1.5 - 1.6m. (more likely 1.6m... Tucson is 1.53m)... which would make it a hard sell against the likes of the Fortuner or Everest. Especially considering the CR-V is just a five seater. An AWD variant would likely cost 1.8m.