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    Dami naglalabasa subcompact car ngayon tapos ito honda ang dinala odyssey at pilot. Ano target market ba gusto nila makuha? The langaw market?






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    They brought in the Jazz 1.5 MT. Nilangaw nga, kaya puro 1.5 AT nalang.

    The Brio, one can only hope.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    add the Freed and Stream also


    Stream


    Freed

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    Time and time again, different car companies have brought in manual TOTL variants of different models. They have been lackluster models at best. Ford Focus TDCi MT. Honda Civic 2.0 S-L MT. Honda Jazz 1.5V MT.

    The car-buying market of the Phlippines is more like the US market, not the Euro market. Automatics are in, manuals are not. The only ones clamoring for manual transmission models are enthusiasts and wannabe racers. More people want an automatic because it's more convenient for them given the awful traffic conditions in the metro.
    Last edited by jut703; June 22nd, 2012 at 12:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    They brought in the Jazz 1.5 MT. Nilangaw nga, kaya puro 1.5 AT nalang.

    The Brio, one can only hope.
    Sayang naman kung ganun. Baka naman hindi lang bumenta ng ilan months tigil na agad pagdala ng mt sa phils.

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    At regarding doon sa nagsabi about manumatic.....you mean yung mga paddle shifter? Ang boring eh..... Mga chicks usually natutuwa sa ganyan. Ako gusto ko apak sa clutch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomboy View Post
    Sayang naman kung ganun. Baka naman hindi lang bumenta ng ilan months tigil na agad pagdala ng mt sa phils.

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    At regarding doon sa nagsabi about manumatic.....you mean yung mga paddle shifter? Ang boring eh..... Mga chicks usually natutuwa sa ganyan. Ako gusto ko apak sa clutch.
    Nope, not just months. Iba ibang manufacturer na nag-try niya. Hindi lang Honda.

    Mahilig ka sa manual? Well people like you (or me) aren't numerous enough to warrant manufacturers to add an additional variant in their lineup. From an operations point of view, it's just not profitable unless sales of manual TOTL variants rise.

    Mas maraming kumukuha ng manual because of economic reasons - mas mura ng 30-50k sa AT version, tapos mas matipid sa gas. But those who buy manuals for a manual's sake? Dying breed.

    Nagkandaugaga na siguro ako kung may Mazda 2 1.5R hatch in MT form, but it's unlikely to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Nope, not just months. Iba ibang manufacturer na nag-try niya. Hindi lang Honda.

    Mahilig ka sa manual? Well people like you (or me) aren't numerous enough to warrant manufacturers to add an additional variant in their lineup. From an operations point of view, it's just not profitable unless sales of manual TOTL variants rise.

    Mas maraming kumukuha ng manual because of economic reasons - mas mura ng 30-50k sa AT version, tapos mas matipid sa gas. But those who buy manuals for a manual's sake? Dying breed.

    Nagkandaugaga na siguro ako kung may Mazda 2 1.5R hatch in MT form, but it's unlikely to happen.
    Yeahp. MZ2 1.5MT hatch pinakamaganda sana. Big engine on such a small and cute vehicle, it must be very thrifty and fun kung nagkatotoo nga. But it seems Mazda is not too fond of MTs.

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    Yung brio ba panglaban yan sa Mirage and Celerio ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by renzo_d10 View Post
    Yung brio ba panglaban yan sa Mirage and Celerio ?
    Yap. Mirage at Celerio kalaban

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    Kung di mabenta, e di nabenta. Honda has a very low expectation in selling the van, 40 units per month? That's pushing it too far, i think. If they are targetting the mid-class biyers, they will bring the entry model.

    With regards to manual tranny, i second the thought of jut. It is more comvinient for people to drive automatic especially when the traffic is horrible. Moreover, manumatics are now available and are as fun to drive just like sticks - well depending on the car you are driving. I find the 1.5 jazz auto is fun to drive as my Si.

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    Panget eh [although gwapo yun stream...] Hindi na magiging prestige yo yung Honda pag dinala yan kasi dadami sa kalsada dahil nga affordable. heheheheheh

    Mas gusto ko Jazz 1.5MT, never liked ATs in general talaga... ewan di naman ako wannabe racer. Pero yun nga, liit lang ng market so AT dinala.

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    ^Pwede namang mahilig ka lang talaga mag-drive ng manual, not necessarily to race, but to enjoy the very act of driving. Hard to find automatics that feel as connected to you as manuals are, even with the manumatics and quick-shifting CVTs common today.

    I'd like my next car to be a manual for this reason. Bahala na kung masakit sa tuhod sa traffic. May Flanax at Skelan naman haha.

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    According to new Honda Cars Philippines president Tatsuya Natsume, the Brio small car that Honda unveiled at the Thailand International Motor Expo late last year, won't be arriving in the Philippines.
    The reason?

    "Car-sales numbers in the Philippines are not enough to justify the creation of a left-hand-drive Brio,"
    - Honda Brio not coming to the Philippines - News | TopGear.com.ph

    The Brio is RHD-only.
    Last edited by AG4; June 22nd, 2012 at 11:42 PM.

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    Apparently the italicized H brand is more accommodating. No wonder it is the fast growing car brand while Honda is losing the market share.

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    Nung nakita ko likod ng brio naisip ko hawig sa volvo

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    brio's specifically for growing thailand and india while pinas although has a steady market is still average

    the design aspect of honda lately is nowhere near nissan's and the koreans'. simply boring. the tsunami and the market crash forced them to rehash design and slow down innovation. 2006 was a good year for them and my fd's still better looking than the current civic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helios View Post
    brio's specifically for growing thailand and india while pinas although has a steady market is still average

    the design aspect of honda lately is nowhere near nissan's and the koreans'. simply boring. the tsunami and the market crash forced them to rehash design and slow down innovation. 2006 was a good year for them and my fd's still better looking than the current civic
    The exterior designs of honda and toyota look pretty bland, but if you look closer, they are interesting to look at. The beauty is in the details, may not be blaring out compared to the koreans'. Moreover, fashion fades, so if the blaring design gets outdated, then it is no longerfashionable.

    A good example is bmw, the 3 and 5 series never really changed so much from one model to another, but they are so simple that the beauty lasts. Compare bmw with mb or audi, bm may not be as fashionable as them, but the simplicity is the key.

    Lastly, if you have a car, will you enjoy the car if it's all about fashion or function? The interior also counts, right? What about the engine and tranny? They should last at least 10 good years or many many hundreds of thousands of miles, right? Is the car fun to drive? You have to consider that too if you're an enthusiast.

    There are so many factors to consider to make the claim of having good design. But the bottom line is, it is you who is going to pay for it, it is you who is going to drive it, it is you who is going to enjoy it; not other people. If the car you own makes you happy, then it is designed for you, then? It must be very well designed.

    Wow, pasensiya na't ngayon lang ako nakakuha ng down time. Haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by LNopal View Post
    It must be very well designed.
    no, really, honda's current design acumen's turned dull accdg to its founder

    car uk new: Honda Commits to Finding it's Way Back to Roots

    'Honda, many say, slipped into designing cars by committee in recent years and drifted away from the iconoclastic ambitions of its founder. Honda had become boring.
    "Somewhere along the way, we lost the ability to express ourselves more freely," Asahi said. "We have a lot of designers here, and when we ask ourselves, 'Which Honda car would we want to buy?' sometimes some of us draw a blank."


    german car design or european styling for that matter has always been timeless and should be innovative without destroying its classic marque

    see those happy expressions covering the front of most cars coming from asia? they're suppose to be emotional and should change over a short period of time. no longevity to it. people expect to see something different, another emotional burst, otherwise we call it a 'botox' styling -a design deja vu

    we pay top dollar so we deserve more. hear that honda!

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    Perhaps Honda brought in the Odyssey and Pilot in response to the success of the Alphard. Despite the huge price tag and the thirsty 3.5V6 engine, I see more of these than I see Grand Starex Limousines. I understand why they brought the Odyssey here. It might actually have a solid following. But the Pilot? They brought it here once before, and it wasn't very successful. I don't think it would be able to hold its ground against more powerful, better looking, and most likely lower priced rivals like the CX9 and Explorer. They should've brought cars that can take advantage of the JPEPA, and not USDM cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helios View Post
    no, really, honda's current design acumen's turned dull accdg to its founder

    car uk new: Honda Commits to Finding it's Way Back to Roots

    'Honda, many say, slipped into designing cars by committee in recent years and drifted away from the iconoclastic ambitions of its founder. Honda had become boring.
    "Somewhere along the way, we lost the ability to express ourselves more freely," Asahi said. "We have a lot of designers here, and when we ask ourselves, 'Which Honda car would we want to buy?' sometimes some of us draw a blank."


    german car design or european styling for that matter has always been timeless and should be innovative without destroying its classic marque

    see those happy expressions covering the front of most cars coming from asia? they're suppose to be emotional and should change over a short period of time. no longevity to it. people expect to see something different, another emotional burst, otherwise we call it a 'botox' styling -a design deja vu

    we pay top dollar so we deserve more. hear that honda!
    Missing something, Helios? Read the entire statement not just the last sentence you highlighted.

    If you are refering to the design of civic, it's an econo car not a luxcar. If you paid too much for it, then someone may have punked you. Modesty aside, i have never paid sticker price, always below invoice price because i did my research.

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    thai flooded unit. Parang ok din when viewed from this angle.

    IF ever they consider a LHD version for our market in the future, sana ibahin nila tail lamp cluster.

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