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August 6th, 2010 03:14 PM #11*uls - another excellent reply. the question is IS IT REASONABLE
when we found out that mwss execs were giving themselves bonuses, it is legal but is it reasonable? from your reply, mwss execs "they don't have to explain anything to anyone"
when we found out about garci,zte, is it reasonable?from your reply, gma,abalos,etc "they don't have to explain anything to anyone"
simple lang ang tanung, is it reasonable?
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August 6th, 2010 03:27 PM #12Civic and City = Thailand rin ata.
CRV, thai rin. :D
Duties went down to 0%. Additional money saved went to pockets of the manufacturer/dealers. Its called profit.
If prices are not reasonable/palatable. Don't buy.Last edited by istan; August 6th, 2010 at 03:29 PM.
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August 6th, 2010 03:39 PM #13
govt execs get paid with our tax money
corrupt govt people steal our tax money
taxpayers deserve an explanation
ang layo naman ng analogy mo dude
honda sells cars to people who have free will to decide to buy or not to buy depending if they can afford or cannot afford
honda cars are not basic goods that people cannot live without
honda's prices do not affect the lives of the masses
maybe honda's prices affect some people
people who wanna buy a honda
if honda raised their prices and those people who wanna buy a honda are now unable to afford one, honda doesnt owe them any explanation
coz it's a car
not water, not sugar, not rice
nobody will die
you want an explanation?
2 words -- PROFIT MARGINLast edited by uls; August 6th, 2010 at 03:43 PM.
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August 6th, 2010 03:39 PM #14
The question "is it reasonable" can't be answered unless you state by how much Honda has increased the MSRP. But if it's the typical 50k peso ($1k) correction, it's probably reasonable.
They don't have to have a reason. But that doesn't mean they increase without one.
If the "Big Three" increase fuel prices when global oil prices are low, they lose market volume to the midsized players (Total, SeaOil, UniOil). They maintain the margin they have to small players (like Jetti and less known gas services) by what the market will accept.
That's the long and short of it. I found it quite funny when the media praised UniOil for lowering prices when the "Big Three" weren't, when in truth... everyone else had lowered before, and UniOil was simply lowering to meet the rest of the market.
The whole idea of there being a "Big Three" is BS. We have a "Big Two" in Shell and Petron... a few medium sized players (Caltex, SeaOil and TOTAL) and a bunch of small ones. Even then, the "medium" players like Caltex and TOTAL are bigger globally than Petron.
Back when it was just them, they were effectively a cartel. but the Government conceived of their stake in Petron as a way of preventin profiteering and keeping prices low. Guess what? Petron had to charge just the same as everyone else to stay profitable. Nowadays, that's more true than ever... however smaller companies will happily sell fuel to you at a lower profit margin because they don't have the market share to compete in terms of expansion and investment.
Make more money, you have more money to invest in better facilities, more new stations and better service. Make less money, and you'll close down in just a few short years.
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I hope you remember all this next time you go to eat at McDonald's or Jollibee and wonder why they can't lower their prices to compete with Minute Burger and Burger Machine. Burger Machine used the cheaper-is-better idea to try to gain market share back in the 90's with their bigger non-stall stores. However, since they couldn't charge more for their burgers at these stores, they couldn't turn a profit, so they're back to being food-stall fodder.
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Honda doesn't need a reason to increase prices. That's inflation. If others are giving discounts, that's because they're not meeting quotas and are not getting the market share they want. (again with the market share)
If you want a Toyota now, it's never been cheaper. Might come back to bite them in the butt, all the incentives and discounts they're giving out (includng 0% financing in the US)... but Toyota is desperate to maintain global market share in the face of recent scandals.
Good for buyers. If you've always wanted a Vios, now's the time to get one.Last edited by niky; August 6th, 2010 at 03:50 PM.
Ang pagbalik ng comeback...
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August 6th, 2010 03:43 PM #15
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August 6th, 2010 03:58 PM #16
ano ba gusto marinig ng threadstarter from Honda?
Dear Customer,
We apologize deeply if we screwed up your dream of owning a new Honda coz we raised our prices.
We raised our prices simply coz we wanna make more money.
We are aware other carmakers have reduced their prices.
We don't care.
We're not afraid of losing customers.
Coz our brand is so f*#kin exceptional, so f*#kin prestigious, that even if we raise our prices, people will keep buying our cars.
Our higher prices will even make our brand more exceptional and prestigious.
Our higher prices will create an image of exclusivity.
Our higher prices separate our cars from mass market cars like those being sold by dealers across the street.
So dear Customer, if you really wanna buy a Honda, come up with the money to buy one.
Hope to see you in our showrooms.
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August 6th, 2010 04:04 PM #17
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August 6th, 2010 04:05 PM #18calm down fellow tsikoters, maybe honda SAs, honda employee, even honda managers, lurkers
i am not asking HONDA ph..kindly read my inquiry
"hey guys. do you think its reasonable for honda to adjust the SRP again when almost all other car dealers are giving discounts?"
also, meaning of reasonable po below:
reasonable - not extreme or excessive
tong si ghosthunter kasi nagpaumpisa ng "Honda doesn't have to have a reason"
the question is IS IT REASONABLE? i am not asking why the prices increased, IS IT REASONABLE? kain ng mani para tumalino hehe peace
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August 6th, 2010 04:08 PM #19
Is it reasonable (the idea of raising prices on a car)? Its not a reasonable question!
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August 6th, 2010 04:10 PM #20
Ok fine bala sabihin pilosopo ako...
Yes its reasonable...
For Honda cause they make more money and making more money is always reasonable...
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