Second Gen. Honda Jazz/Fit

[cookiem]

Shell yung 97% octane...nag improve ng kaunti ang FC or baka di lang ako masyadong nagtatapak ng selyenador....19 km/li FC pwede na sa 1.5 na GE...

Realistic ba yung 19km/l na FC for city driving? Umabot nga lang ako ng 14-15 masaya na ko e.

grabe napaka tipid ganyan din sana GE ko, sabe ng SA ko under break in pa daw kase ako 2000+++ sa odo pa lang ako e, nag lalaro ung FC ko sa 10.1-10.4

Pareho tayo sir... nasa ganyang range din FC ko pag may times na mabigat paa ko. Kailangan talaga medyo kapain mo yung tapak sa gas. Tsaka if there really is no need for you to rush driving, I suggest na cruise mode ka lang from 60-80kph.

[cookiem]

Noob Question: Is Caltex "Gold" (95 RON) is compatible to our GE? any experience user here? any difference in terms of FC? thanks!

Correct me if I'm wrong mga sirs, pero AFAIK hindi naman recommended for high octane gasolines yung GE natin. Kaya nga when you open the gas lid, may nakalagay na "Unleaded Only" ikakarga mo. Pero, kanya-kanya pa din talaga ng preference yan sa ginagamit na gasolina.

[gti277]

Correct me if I'm wrong mga sirs, pero AFAIK hindi naman recommended for high octane gasolines yung GE natin. Kaya nga when you open the gas lid, may nakalagay na "Unleaded Only" ikakarga mo. Pero, kanya-kanya pa din talaga ng preference yan sa ginagamit na gasolina.

Tama ka dun bro. High octane gasoline is only recommended for high compression engines such as circuit racing or rallying. Heto yung high revs or redline...Based lang ito sa recent article sa Yahoo! It also says modern cars like our GEs can run on minimum 88 octane gasoline. But as you've mentioned, kanya kanyang preference lang yan...Cheers

[reflex]

galit ka nga siguro sa gas pedal...1.3mt rin ako pero nakaka 13km/l pa nga ako sa city driving, with traffic na yun bro...

di naman siguro medyo alalay na nga lang tapak 2 to 2.5rpm change gear.. nagtataka nga ko before vti gamit ko 10 to 11klm/l fc ko!

[mda]

Correct me if I'm wrong mga sirs, pero AFAIK hindi naman recommended for high octane gasolines yung GE natin. Kaya nga when you open the gas lid, may nakalagay na "Unleaded Only" ikakarga mo. Pero, kanya-kanya pa din talaga ng preference yan sa ginagamit na gasolina.

Totoo, you don't need to run cars at higher octane ratings than what's advised.

No offense pero no connect yung "Unleaded Only" na nakasulat sa gas lid reasoning.

But when they say "Unleaded Only", it doesn't mean that you get the lowest octane gasoline which happens to be called "Unleaded". By saying "Unleaded", car manufacturers mean to only put unleaded gasoline in the car - which includes higher octane gas.

[reflex]

Petron XCS pwede ho ba sa GE natin??? sayang din kasi yun stub ko na 40liters kung di naman pwede

[mda]

Pwedeng pwede.

Kahit yung base unleaded pwede na.

[brodieman]

Totoo, you don't need to run cars at higher octane ratings than what's advised.

No offense pero no connect yung "Unleaded Only" na nakasulat sa gas lid reasoning.

But when they say "Unleaded Only", it doesn't mean that you get the lowest octane gasoline which happens to be called "Unleaded". By saying "Unleaded", car manufacturers mean to only put unleaded gasoline in the car - which includes higher octane gas.

Awts, Guys! medyo parang nagtwist ung mga answers but anyway by saying "which includes higher octane gas" means Caltex "Gold" is also compatible to our GE? tama po ba Sir mda? parang dating sa akin "why expend Costly Gas when Regular gas can run our cars?" if i analyze ang mga comments. also, Pls. take note that Caltex "Gold with Techron" is a premium gasoline... Thanks guys!

[mda]

^ I'm clarifying things up lang kasi that's what I understood from the post I quoted. I'm pretty sure some others took it that way din.

Anyway, the answer is yes.

The GEs and most other cars WILL run on gasoline with octane higher than the ones REQUIRED.

Some people CLAIM a performance boost (responsiveness, etc). Others CLAIM better fuel efficiency and more KM per peso spent, but a lot of that will be difficult to prove due to varying traffic conditions and driving styles.

Some also say that gas manufacturers add some additives to their premium fuel mixes to make the gas burn 'cleaner', making it good for the engine.

^This I cannot prove/disprove.

With regards to any long term damage however, there's nothing wrong with using higher octane gasoline as compared to using the minimum octane gasoline. Well again, I'll assume that this is the answer because proving it is really difficult (varying conditions car is exposed to).

In the end, I'd say whichever floats your boat. Basta your engine doesn't knock from using octane LOWER than what is required.

Do take note that when the manual says 88 octane, you'll need 90++ octane here in the philippines because of the way octane ratings are given here and abroad.

Hope this helps and clears up a few things.

[h0tgunn]

Totoo, you don't need to run cars at higher octane ratings than what's advised.

No offense pero no connect yung "Unleaded Only" na nakasulat sa gas lid reasoning.

But when they say "Unleaded Only", it doesn't mean that you get the lowest octane gasoline which happens to be called "Unleaded". By saying "Unleaded", car manufacturers mean to only put unleaded gasoline in the car - which includes higher octane gas.

This is true,,, all gasoline are unleaded they only differ in octane rates. Blaze and VPower are unleaded... Nakakamatay ang lead can cause cancer... Check niyo sa manual kung ano dapat ang octane rating ng gas ng tsikot niyo... Remember when gas ignites by compression rather than because of the spark from the spark plug, it causes knocking in the engine and shorten life of the engine.

[brodieman]

^ I'm clarifying things up lang kasi that's what I understood from the post I quoted. I'm pretty sure some others took it that way din.

Anyway, the answer is yes.

The GEs and most other cars WILL run on gasoline with octane higher than the ones REQUIRED.

Some people CLAIM a performance boost (responsiveness, etc). Others CLAIM better fuel efficiency and more KM per peso spent, but a lot of that will be difficult to prove due to varying traffic conditions and driving styles.

Some also say that gas manufacturers add some additives to their premium fuel mixes to make the gas burn 'cleaner', making it good for the engine.

^This I cannot prove/disprove.

With regards to any long term damage however, there's nothing wrong with using higher octane gasoline as compared to using the minimum octane gasoline. Well again, I'll assume that this is the answer because proving it is really difficult (varying conditions car is exposed to).

In the end, I'd say whichever floats your boat. Basta your engine doesn't knock from using octane LOWER than what is required.

Do take note that when the manual says 88 octane, you'll need 90++ octane here in the philippines because of the way octane ratings are given here and abroad.

Hope this helps and clears up a few things.

Nice & clear Sir mda!!! Thanks! curious lang what type of gas your using...

[brooom]

Petron XCS pwede ho ba sa GE natin??? sayang din kasi yun stub ko na 40liters kung di naman pwede

pwdeng pwde sir. dati vpower gamit ko pero nung nag xcs ako mas lumakas ata hatak at mas naging matipid (yata) hehe! pero yun din sabi ng iba sa forum n to. read backwards sir and search online.

[shakatak70]

wow sir tanong lang totoo ba yan 19km/l na fc mo, city driving po ba yan?!.. sakin po 1.3mt 9.6km/l sobra lakas sa gas!!!

Actually sir first time ko na maka 19 km/li di rin ako makapaniwala.

grabe napaka tipid ganyan din sana GE ko, sabe ng SA ko under break in pa daw kase ako 2000+++ sa odo pa lang ako e, nag lalaro ung FC ko sa 10.1-10.4

Noong first time ko na gumamit ng jazz (first time din sa automatic) ang average ko lagi below 10 km/li kasi yung driving habit ko ay apak ng apak sa gas.

Realistic ba yung 19km/l na FC for city driving? Umabot nga lang ako ng 14-15 masaya na ko e.




Pareho tayo sir... nasa ganyang range din FC ko pag may times na mabigat paa ko. Kailangan talaga medyo kapain mo yung tapak sa gas. Tsaka if there really is no need for you to rush driving, I suggest na cruise mode ka lang from 60-80kph.

kung nag a-average ng 18-19 km/li ang takbo lang ay nasa 80 km at yung arangkada talagang mabagal...pero ang napapansin kopag nahinto ka sa stop light mabilis yung pagbaba ng average km/li. Yung sa aakin nagyari kasi relax lang yung driving (Alabang through SLEX then Pasig to QC). Pero kung pure City driving sa akin mga 12-14 km/li. Nasanay na alalay sa gas pag automatic..

[h0tgunn]

Actually sir first time ko na maka 19 km/li di rin ako makapaniwala.



Noong first time ko na gumamit ng jazz (first time din sa automatic) ang average ko lagi below 10 km/li kasi yung driving habit ko ay apak ng apak sa gas.



kung nag a-average ng 18-19 km/li ang takbo lang ay nasa 80 km at yung arangkada talagang mabagal...pero ang napapansin kopag nahinto ka sa stop light mabilis yung pagbaba ng average km/li. Yung sa aakin nagyari kasi relax lang yung driving (Alabang through SLEX then Pasig to QC). Pero kung pure City driving sa akin mga 12-14 km/li. Nasanay na alalay sa gas pag automatic..

Try niyo full tank tapos reset yung meter ng actual mileage,,, ako 1.5V,,, kahit na matic matipid pa rin,,, im using XCS or Gold

Normal lang dynamic ang FC mo symepre, depende sa traffic at tapak mo sa acceleration. The best ko yung 24km/l from tagaytay to manila.. Dati yung 500pesos ko kulang papunta sa tagaytay balikan,,, ngayon may sobra pa for two days for work.... Yung 9.5km/l ko stop and go lagi yan and may schumacher mode. hehehe

9.5-11km/l city driving route from sampaloc, manila to diliman, q.c. and vice-versa
14-24km/l hi-way driving route from sampaloc, manila to tagaytay and vice-versa

[cookiem]

Totoo, you don't need to run cars at higher octane ratings than what's advised.

No offense pero no connect yung "Unleaded Only" na nakasulat sa gas lid reasoning.

But when they say "Unleaded Only", it doesn't mean that you get the lowest octane gasoline which happens to be called "Unleaded". By saying "Unleaded", car manufacturers mean to only put unleaded gasoline in the car - which includes higher octane gas.

No worries sir mda, kaya nga andito din ako... for me to learn these things. All the while kasi ang pagkakaalam ko when we say unleaded, we're leaning towards low octane gasolines. Hence, the assumption kung bakit nakalagay sa gas lid ng GE natin "Unleaded Only". Hehehe! :screwloose:

Thanks for the clarification. I guess I need to do a lot more :book1:. Hehehe!

[red07]

I only achieved that 19km/l when we went to zambales using shell super unleaded. I average 11-12.5 km/l pag pure city driving.

[pcuerpo]

just to make things clear for everyone, lahat na ata ng gas ngayon ay unleaded (Xtra, XCS, Blaze for Petron, Silver, Gold for Caltex, Unleaded, Premium, and V-Power for Shell). as far as i'm concerned, all of these gases can be used in our beloved GEs. i'm not sure of the required octane rating for our cars but ang alam ko even with the lowest octane rating (Xtra, Silver, and Premium), all of them meet those requirement.

FC varies. tataas talaga yan if you travel using the expressway compared to the normal streets or highways. based on my experience, my GE na 1.5 ranges from 9km/l to 10km/l sa city driving (meaning, i dont pass through the expressway) and that is based on my manual computation since my cars says 11km/l (how i wish it was right though). and it will further depend sa apak ng gas. when i go to tagaytay, halos di tumataas ang FC kasi hataw-mode naman ako althroughout (slex, sta. rosa, and sa tagaytay mismo). hehehe pero mas magaan paa ko pag dito lang ako sa manila.

different gases have different results for different (or even same) cars. kaya try to experiment which will work for you best. it just so happened that mine was sa V-Power but how i wish it was sa Unleaded lang. lol try experimenting guys, masaya din siya. :D

[jmpet626]

ako nakaka 11km per liter (manual computation) using Caltex Silver. Alabang - Proj 8 Q.C. Route. Nung byahe ako Anilao 13km per liter ako pero hataw driving. In my experience parang walang difference yung Silver/Gold or yung Extreme 97 ng sea oil shell premium. Parati ako nag full tank ng ibat ibang brand ganun pa din fuel consumption ko. Same route parati at same oras ng pasok at uwi .


Ang deciding factor na lang eh mas mura samin yung price ng caltex silver sa may mindanao ave at may 5% rebate sa HSBC.

[reflex]

Try niyo full tank tapos reset yung meter ng actual mileage....

sir pano magreset ng meter? narereset din po ba fc meter?

[h0tgunn]

sir pano magreset ng meter?

Don sa may guage cluster kung san mo nakikita yung FC mo may pindutan don. pag press mo nagbabago yun, select mo yung actual trip tapos press mo ng matagal para mag reset. Better yet to read your manual. :-)