Possible engine swap

[pahiyaka]

gusto ko lang sana itanong ano pa magandang possible engine swap para sa EK 96 ferio/sedan.. since my ph16a is almost at its limit tas binaha pa haha..

anyway.. ang pinaka sikat eh d15,zc and b16 yan lang ba talaga pwede sa EK?

how bout yung k20a a2 a3/k24

or

yung F20 series

or

b20 and h22???

paki bigyan naman po ako ng idea, availability and price ng mga yan.. as of now may budget ako pang b16 kasya kaya yun or sobra? para sakin kasi OP ang b16 saka halos lahat ganon na.. para maiba naman..

oh yeah.. balak ko din po i-set up so hinde ako nag hahanap ng fuel economy engine..

[niky]

gusto ko lang sana itanong ano pa magandang possible engine swap para sa EK 96 ferio/sedan.. since my ph16a is almost at its limit tas binaha pa haha..

anyway.. ang pinaka sikat eh d15,zc and b16 yan lang ba talaga pwede sa EK?

how bout yung k20a a2 a3/k24

or

yung F20 series

or

b20 and h22???

paki bigyan naman po ako ng idea, availability and price ng mga yan.. as of now may budget ako pang b16 kasya kaya yun or sobra? para sakin kasi OP ang b16 saka halos lahat ganon na.. para maiba naman..

oh yeah.. balak ko din po i-set up so hinde ako nag hahanap ng fuel economy engine..

F20? Perhaps if you have a ton of money and are a mechanical genius. Since it didn't come with a FWD transmission, you'll have to custom fit a FWD tranny to it, make completely custom engine mounts, figure out a way to wire in the ECU (the speed sensor will probably be your biggest pain) and figure out how to route hoses, intake, exhaust and wires for an engine not meant to be mounted sideways. (actually, come to think of it, you could just convert your Civic to rear-wheel drive... )

H22 is nice, but uncommon, K20 will fit, but wiring will be more difficult and the K20 is very expensive. The B16 is the best reasonably easy swap for your car, but expensive (alternatively, you can do a frankenstein B16/B20)...

The JDM D15B is a good alternative and the best bang for your buck. A well-tuned D15B in a light Civic is a great motor, with lots of pick-up and good acceleration... it's only slow once you're over 100 km/h, where absolute horsepower matters more... but you probably won't mind at all.

[pahiyaka]

F20? Perhaps if you have a ton of money and are a mechanical genius. Since it didn't come with a FWD transmission, you'll have to custom fit a FWD tranny to it, make completely custom engine mounts, figure out a way to wire in the ECU (the speed sensor will probably be your biggest pain) and figure out how to route hoses, intake, exhaust and wires for an engine not meant to be mounted sideways. (actually, come to think of it, you could just convert your Civic to rear-wheel drive... )

H22 is nice, but uncommon, K20 will fit, but wiring will be more difficult and the K20 is very expensive. The B16 is the best reasonably easy swap for your car, but expensive (alternatively, you can do a frankenstein B16/B20)...

The JDM D15B is a good alternative and the best bang for your buck. A well-tuned D15B in a light Civic is a great motor, with lots of pick-up and good acceleration... it's only slow once you're over 100 km/h, where absolute horsepower matters more... but you probably won't mind at all.

tnx sir.. i guess bye F20 (RWD na EK hmmmmmmm HAHAH).. iniisip ko din d15 na turbo but then again I've been hearing na not for novice driver ang turbo kasi hirap i-control lalo na sa cornering.. I'm not really into drag racing so balak ko setup ko pang track or up/down hill..

[take1bar]

go for B20Vtec. torque and power are awesome. I've test drive this frank engine yesterday, whole day and night. no boring moment, power is always present straight or uphill climb. monster talaga. you can visit www.b20vtec.com for additional info about this set up

[pahiyaka]

go for B20Vtec. torque and power are awesome. I've test drive this frank engine yesterday, whole day and night. no boring moment, power is always present straight or uphill climb. monster talaga. you can visit www.b20vtec.com for additional info about this set up

tnx sir... wow i would really want to test drive a b20 civic.. hahah.. mukhang dito ako babagsak ahh.. kelangan ko din kasi ng lakas sa buong RPM powerband haha.. Time to research haha tnx again.. anyway sir do you have anyday sa availability and pricing ng B20vtec?

[pahiyaka]

go for B20Vtec. torque and power are awesome. I've test drive this frank engine yesterday, whole day and night. no boring moment, power is always present straight or uphill climb. monster talaga. you can visit www.b20vtec.com for additional info about this set up

tnx sir... wow i would really want to test drive a b20 civic.. hahah.. mukhang dito ako babagsak ahh.. kelangan ko din kasi ng lakas sa buong RPM powerband haha.. Time to research haha tnx again.. anyway sir do you have anyidea sa availability and pricing ng B20vtec?

[niky]

Controlling a turbocharged car is no different from controlling a regular car, as long as the turbocharging is done properly.

It will only be hard to handle if it doesn't receive the corresponding upgrade in suspension, brakes and tires, and if the turbo is not matched properly and the tuning isn't done right... sometimes, in a cheap turbo set-up, people use a turbine that's too big... which means lots of lag... no power down low and a sudden ramp up of power at mid-to-high rpms that can be difficult to modulate.

If you want a car for track or autocross purposes, the D15B is a good choice.

The B20 frankenstein would be nice, but the cost would be around the price of a B16 swap (around 100,000 or so) with the addition of an overhaul charge and the cost of the B20 block. And you won't have to deal with the reliability issues of converting a long-stroke engine (the B20) into a high revving engine (B16/20)... long strokes are notoriously unreliable at high rpms, unless you build up their internals.

You could try a regular non-VTEC B20... gives you more torque and horsepower than a D15B (about 140+), while not costing nearly as much as a B16 or a frankenstein. If your car is a hatchback, this engine should make it quicker than an SiR.

[HyBrideVo]

How about a F20B from the accord sir perhaps?

[HyBrideVo]

How about a F20B from the accord sir perhaps?



F20B
Accord/Troneo Sir and Sir-T (CF4) (JDM)197hp*7200/145tq*6600
notes: (ported head and type-s cams(12.1, 11.2 lift), 2.0L block 11:1cr 85mm pistons

85mm bore
88mm stroke
145.5mm rods (f20b rod length = 145.425)
1.65 r/s ratio
55mm mains like h22a4 block
rod journal has been offset ground on both sides to the size of a b-series rod journal.
11.0:1cr
smaller, b-series rod journals
beefy rod, like a s2000
23mm wrist pin

more here with similar set up http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1278946

http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/ar.../t-207316.html

[pahiyaka]

How about a F20B from the accord sir perhaps?



F20B
Accord/Troneo Sir and Sir-T (CF4) (JDM)197hp*7200/145tq*6600
notes: (ported head and type-s cams(12.1, 11.2 lift), 2.0L block 11:1cr 85mm pistons

85mm bore
88mm stroke
145.5mm rods (f20b rod length = 145.425)
1.65 r/s ratio
55mm mains like h22a4 block
rod journal has been offset ground on both sides to the size of a b-series rod journal.
11.0:1cr
smaller, b-series rod journals
beefy rod, like a s2000
23mm wrist pin

more here with similar set up http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1278946

http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/ar.../t-207316.html

Sir any idea sa pricing and availability nyan dito sa pinas?

[pahiyaka]

double post ulit!!! ARGHH

[pahiyaka]

Controlling a turbocharged car is no different from controlling a regular car, as long as the turbocharging is done properly.

It will only be hard to handle if it doesn't receive the corresponding upgrade in suspension, brakes and tires, and if the turbo is not matched properly and the tuning isn't done right... sometimes, in a cheap turbo set-up, people use a turbine that's too big... which means lots of lag... no power down low and a sudden ramp up of power at mid-to-high rpms that can be difficult to modulate.

If you want a car for track or autocross purposes, the D15B is a good choice.

The B20 frankenstein would be nice, but the cost would be around the price of a B16 swap (around 100,000 or so) with the addition of an overhaul charge and the cost of the B20 block. And you won't have to deal with the reliability issues of converting a long-stroke engine (the B20) into a high revving engine (B16/20)... long strokes are notoriously unreliable at high rpms, unless you build up their internals.

You could try a regular non-VTEC B20... gives you more torque and horsepower than a D15B (about 140+), while not costing nearly as much as a B16 or a frankenstein. If your car is a hatchback, this engine should make it quicker than an SiR.

thank you sir.. I heard unreliable nga daw yung sa high RPM's.. If mag force induction ako go talaga ako sa d15 with a small turbo para less lag at may balance na power sa buong rpm band. ive been thinking about superchargers para early boost pero parang mahirap hanapin dito sa pinas and i guess mahal yun... anyways.. thank you sir.. I hope I can get it right at first try..

[pahiyaka]

double post T_T