Oil Dilution/Petrol Contamination Issue on 1.5Turbo Earth Dreams

**travajante** · October 31st, 2018 11:17 PM

Perceived an issue in cold regions, some consumers say the problem occurs even in warm weather states. ConsumerReports has heard from CR-V owners in Arizona, California, Delaware, Texas, and Nevada. And the NHTSA database includes accounts of this oil-gas mixture problem from CR-V owners in Kentucky, Oregon, Tennessee, and Virginia.
Though we're in the tropics, it's best for CivicRS owners to take the proactive approach of checking oil levels regularly, frequently & reporting if issue is observed.
Honda says it will begin rolling out an engine fix in the US this December for models with a faulty 1.5 Earth Dreams Turbo that can leak gasoline into the oil system. But the automaker will focus initially on just five northern states: Maine, Minnesota, North Dakota, South Dakota, and Wisconsin.

More here:
Oil Dilution | Honda Problems
Honda Delays CR-V Engine Fix but Details Rollout Plans - Consumer Reports

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**travajante** · November 1st, 2018 11:37 AM

Class Action Suit for the 1.5T Earth Dreams
Honda Fuel Dilution Problems Cause Class-Action Lawsuit | CarComplaints.com

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**StockEngine** · November 1st, 2018 02:16 PM

damn they suck...

toyota is also using 0w16 on their tNGA vehicles.. corolla, camry and prius and chr but ive yet to hear fuel dilution.

mazda was able to hudle their fuel dilution issue.

honda

**travajante** · November 1st, 2018 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by StockEngine

damn they suck...

toyota is also using 0w16 on their tNGA vehicles.. corolla, camry and prius and chr but ive yet to hear fuel dilution.

mazda was able to hudle their fuel dilution issue.

honda

All for efficiency.[emoji20] Oil dilution is a major headache.
Ignorance is bliss, if one doesn't plan to keep the affected car long term.[emoji45]

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**heavenlee** · July 15th, 2019 01:10 AM

Honda's Earth Dreams oil dilution problem has turned into a nightmare for a lot of owners.

Oil Dilution in Honda's 1.5L Engine - Honda Problems

"Until a new recall is agreed upon, Honda has issued a stop-sale on all new CR-Vs in China."

Never Buy a Honda With This Engine - YouTube

**Shelo08** · October 23rd, 2019 01:31 AM

Originally Posted by heavenlee

Honda's Earth Dreams oil dilution problem has turned into a nightmare for a lot of owners.

Oil Dilution in Honda's 1.5L Engine - Honda Problems

"Until a new recall is agreed upon, Honda has issued a stop-sale on all new CR-Vs in China."

Never Buy a Honda With This Engine - YouTube

Hi,

Is the 1.5 turbo for civic rs is also affected? Base on my research, only affected is the CRV model.

Thanks,

**istan** · October 23rd, 2019 05:13 AM

Honda Civic, CR-V Oil Dilution Problem, What You Should Do Now | Torque News

Oil Dilution in Honda's 1.5L Engine - Honda Problems

Honda Warranty Extended for CR-Vs and Civics With Turbo Engines

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**Shelo08** · December 12th, 2019 01:20 AM

Sir, for Civic RS 2019 is the oil dilution has been address? I don’t see any post from user here his/her civic RS has oil dilution problem.

Originally Posted by istan

Honda Civic, CR-V Oil Dilution Problem, What You Should Do Now | Torque News

Oil Dilution in Honda's 1.5L Engine - Honda Problems

Honda Warranty Extended for CR-Vs and Civics With Turbo Engines

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**travajante** · December 12th, 2019 02:23 AM

Originally Posted by Shelo08

Sir, for Civic RS 2019 is the oil dilution has been address? I don’t see any post from user here his/her civic RS has oil dilution problem.

People normally check dipsticks to make sure oil level isn't low. Few might realize the signs of oil dilution....the oil level won't likely ever get low, OR...it's the opposite. The oil level increases.
With dilution, oil lubricity is affected & its ability to reduce internal friction will be diminished. The consequence & damage would be similar to oil starvation... premature wear & eventual engine failure. Plus, north of normal oil levels will subject engine components & seals to higher pressures. The relative difference may be in the rate, magnitude of damage. Damage may likelier be gradual than abrupt. Like rheumatoid arthritis, signs & symptoms will have higher probability of showing outside than within warranty. Planned obsolescence again?[emoji848]
The possible reasons of not hearing about dilution?
- HondaPh isn't informing owners of the issue.
-Owners don't check for raised oil levels but for oil consumption/starvation
-The ECU won't pop a code nor CEL.
-Owners aren't checking oil levels at all.
-Owners dunno what oil dilution is....as long as car runs w/o any warning lights...Car's fine.
-If an engine coincidentally has both oil burn & dilution at close to equal rates, the level may remain within constant normal range. In this case, 1 way to determine dilution is happening is by oil analysis.
Or
-The new engines have updated parts to address that....I hope it's not just a new diptsick w/ longer L-F measurement than the old.🤪

Owner ignorance here will be Honda's bliss?[emoji848]

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**hardwang** · December 12th, 2019 02:58 AM

Originally Posted by travajante

People normally check dipsticks to make sure oil level isn't low. Few might realize the signs of oil dilution....the oil level won't likely ever get low, OR...it's the opposite. The oil level increases.
With dilution, oil lubricity is affected & its ability to reduce internal friction will be diminished. The consequence & damage would be similar to oil starvation... premature wear & eventual engine failure. Plus, north of normal oil levels will subject engine components & seals to higher pressures. The relative difference may be in the rate, magnitude of damage. Damage may likelier be gradual than abrupt. Like rheumatoid arthritis, signs & symptoms will have higher probability of showing outside than within warranty. Planned obsolescence again?[emoji848]
The possible reasons of not hearing about dilution?
- HondaPh isn't informing owners of the issue.
-Owners either don't check for raised oil levels but for oil consumption/starvation
-The ECU won't pop a code nor CEL.
-Owners aren't checking oil levels at all.
-Owners dunno what oil dilution is....as long as car runs w/o any warning lights...Car's fine.
Or
-The new engines have updated parts to address that....I hope it's not just a new diptsick w/ longer L-F measurement than the old.🤪

Owner ignorance here will be Honda's bliss?[emoji848]

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Owners think it's a Honda and its a relatively new car. It shouldn't have problems right? RIGHT???????