Jazz RS vs Civic 1.8E

[TheUninvited]

For brand new, good choice ba kung Jazz RS over the Civic 1.8E in terms of safety?

6 airbags kase ung Jazz, 2 lang yung Civic. In terms of tech, same lang, parehong old engines, mas luma pa nga ata yung sa Civic.

Hanap ko kase at least 6 airbags, ang tagal nung Vitara GLX eh. di ko na maantay.

Mga 1M lang kase budget.

[Egan101]

I suggest you get the Jetta Comfortline at 1.1M. You get driver, passenger, side, and curtain airbags. It is cheaper on fuel as it comes with turbo diesel engine. Also, it is quicker and faster than both Jazz and Civic 1.8L.

https://www.volkswagen.com.ph/conten...Jetta%20CL.pdf


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[Egan101]

Honda thread pala ito. Hahahaha

I'd get the Civic over the Jazz any day. The Jazz RS is too pricey for a subcompact hatch priced at 1M.

[Sleepcare]

Kung Jazz VX vs Civic, doon ako sa Jazz but kung Jazz RS vs Civic, i'll have to go with Civic.

I don't know.. 1m is too much for a Jazz RS. Ok sana kung may difference sa power and features yung Jazz just like Civic E and Civic RS to justify the price difference.

[jigeloh]

Jazz ako kung engine ng civic rs nakalagay sa Jazz hehehe


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[Egan101]

Jazz ako kung engine ng civic rs nakalagay sa Jazz hehehe


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Technically speaking, the engine on the Jazz/City (L15A7) is similar to the Civic RS (L15B7) but it comes with a turbocharger.

[TheUninvited]

Other suggestions aside sa Jetta with 6 airbags or more?

Important talaga sakin sana yun, kung madami lang airbags yung 1.8E no contest na sana.

[ale828]

Other suggestions aside sa Jetta with 6 airbags or more?

Important talaga sakin sana yun, kung madami lang airbags yung 1.8E no contest na sana.

If i remember the Toyota corolla G model already has 6 airbags. But compared with the civic i might just get the Civic than a Corolla.
I think also the Mazda 3 R model has 6 airbags? but its priced a bit more than the civic 1.8E and Corolla G model.

if ur a family man with kids already you should give importance to the 6 airbags and passive safety.
i have relatives being saved by side airbags from a US highway crash. They came out with just minor bruise and cuts but the car was totaled.

[TheUninvited]

If i remember the Toyota corolla G model already has 6 airbags. But compared with the civic i might just get the Civic than a Corolla.
I think also the Mazda 3 R model has 6 airbags? but its priced a bit more than the civic 1.8E and Corolla G model.

if ur a family man with kids already you should give importance to the 6 airbags and passive safety.
i have relatives being saved by side airbags from a US highway crash. They came out with just minor bruise and cuts but the car was totaled.

Still single, kaya consider ko ang Jazz.

Current car is City GM so a Civic is a proper upgrade sana.

Pag isipan ko to ng mabuti and thanks sa suggestions.

Not considering Toyota anymore since I've had bad experience ako sa casa and the car itself.

[Janemar]

Technically speaking, the engine on the Jazz/City (L15A7) is similar to the Civic RS (L15B7) but it comes with a turbocharger.

This is misleading. The L15B7 is all new and different compared to other L15A's.

Intake/Exhaust manifold orientation, SOHC vs DOHC and the annoying tick sound of the DI injectors are dead give-aways, more than just "slapping" a turbo...

Further discussed here * 12:20

TOV Video: 2016 Civic 1.5 Turbo Engine Overview with Chief Powertrain Engineer Yuji Matsumochi - YouTube

[jut703]

I drive on dangerous roads all the time and I'm more concerned about active safety (handling, steering, ABS, traction control) than passive safety (airbags).

The Civic handles very well, brakes very confidently, and traction control works very well when you overdo a corner.

The Civic's body is also rated 5-stars in the latest ASEAN NCAP.

Personally I don't see the 6 airbags as a crucial advantage of the Jazz over the Civic. All things considered, I think the Civic is better.

I also think the Civic is better than the Jetta Comfortline, which has far less appeal in the flesh. My fiance saw it on display in a mall and was surprised to find out it costs the same as the Civic 1.8 which looks better inside and out.

Maintenance and long-term ownership is another advantage of the Honda over the VW. Good luck finding parts outside the casa in 5 years compared to the Civic which sold 4,000+ units last year so 3rd party stores are sure to stock up on basic parts.

Biggest advantage of the Jetta course is the diesel power and efficiency. That alone can make it worth it for you. Quicker 0-100 time than the Civic 1.8 because of the torque but the Civic gets to 200 kph quicker because it's lighter.

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[mda]

Not sure if there's any logic behind my thinking...

Pero assuming the same approximate year model, pag accident yung pinag uusapan, I'd rather be in a larger vehicle with 2 airbags than a smaller vehicle with 6...

Example: Camry (the S and G variants have 2 airbags) vs a Jazz with 6... I guess same thing with the Civic vs the Jazz. The Jetta and the Civic are in the same class so safety feature-wise parang mas okay talaga yung Jetta.

That, and nobody I know really wears seatbelts pag nakaupo sila sa likod. Airbag deployment can further injure them pa.

[TheUninvited]

Well, side and side curtain airbags kase important sakin. For a side collision. (ex beating the red light)

I've watched numerous crash tests and those side airbags can really make a difference.

Frontal collision yes, advantage ang bigger vehicles syempre. Pero kahit frontal may chance pa din makatulong yung side airbags kase.

[SpinCycle]

Well, side and side curtain airbags kase important sakin. For a side collision. (ex beating the red light)

I've watched numerous crash tests and those side airbags can really make a difference.

Frontal collision yes, advantage ang bigger vehicles syempre. Pero kahit frontal may chance pa din makatulong yung side airbags kase.

I would say get the car that ticks off your priority boxes. It seems that the Jazz does that for you.

You may also want to check the Altis. Afaik, it comes with side, curtain and knee airbags.


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[Walter]

Well, side and side curtain airbags kase important sakin. For a side collision. (ex beating the red light)

Then DON'T beat red lights ... the larger vehicle with 2 airbags will be safer in general than a smaller vehicle with more airbags ... whether it's front, side or rear impact ... larger vehicle has more mass and is generally built better ...

Get the Honda Civic ... it's the newer designed vehicle compared to the Honda Jazz which will be replaced soon ... and practice safe driving ...

BTW, have you test driven the new Honda Civic? ... go do it, you might just change your mind ...

[TheUninvited]

Then DON'T beat red lights ... the larger vehicle with 2 airbags will be safer in general than a smaller vehicle with more airbags ... whether it's front, side or rear impact ... larger vehicle has more mass and is generally built better ...

Get the Honda Civic ... it's the newer designed vehicle compared to the Honda Jazz which will be replaced soon ... and practice safe driving ...

BTW, have you test driven the new Honda Civic? ... go do it, you might just change your mind ...

Sir hindi ako yung mag beat ng red light, what I meant if go na ako then may nag beat, then sa side ako tatamaan.

Well hindi ko pa na test drive, pero naka drive na ako ng FD and FB, so I think similar and slightly better lang siya.

Based sa suggestions I'm now 60% Civic. Worry ko lang mukang sayadin.

City ko kase kahit 1 passenger lang sumasayad sa humps na medyo mataas, yung bumper and sa mid section ng body.

[Walter]

That, and nobody I know really wears seatbelts pag nakaupo sila sa likod. Airbag deployment can further injure them pa.

Remind rear passengers to put on seat belt ... or they can get off and commute ...

[EQAddict]

If the jazz had the 1.5 turbo engine of the RS.....itd be perfect. I wonder if they do retrofits....

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[Walter]

If the jazz had the 1.5 turbo engine of the RS.....itd be perfect. I wonder if they do retrofits...

Don't think you can just slap a turbo into a Jazz engine ... the internals might be different, more robust to handle the extra ooomph ...

In the US you can buy a Honda Civic Type R Crate Engine ...

[Egan101]

If the jazz had the 1.5 turbo engine of the RS.....itd be perfect. I wonder if they do retrofits....

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Honda is not that crazy to pull that off but they should. Just look at Ford and how successful the Fiesta ST is in Europe and North America.


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