Thinking of Buying a '99 or '00 Civic SIR

[chuboy]

Hello Fellow Tsikoteers!

I am looking to buy a "stock" Civic SIR M/T. Would you guys help me where possible places that I can find the "fresh-ish" ones and what are the things/points that i should consider to be aware of its good running condition aside from the higher re-sale value of these cars compared to the current market value.

Also, i would like to ask what are the common issues(considering this more than a 10 year old car) that i should be watchful of aside from the suspension, signs of abused units, etc.

Will use it as a weekend car so gas would not be an issue for me considering that I reside and also work in Makati.

Thanks and God Bless!

[shadow]

I can't help you where to look for fresh SIR but natatawa ako at timing itong thread mo sa kopal thread...

[Bin Diesel]

I can't help you where to look for fresh SIR but natatawa ako at timing itong thread mo sa kopal thread...

+1 paps....

[chuboy]

I can't help you where to look for fresh SIR but natatawa ako at timing itong thread mo sa kopal thread...

anong kopal thread? nagtatanong ako ng maayos, kung wala kang masasabing matino. mas mabuti wag ka nalang mag-reply. kung may mali man akong nagawa, turuan mo ako para hindi ako maka-sagabal kung anumang maaring masamang dulot ng pag-gawa ko ng thread na ito.

[c_cube]

Hindi ko rin matiis hindi matawa. VTEC YO!

To TS, wag ka magalit kay shadow, wala siyang masamang ibig sabihin. may hot thread lang ngayon tungkol sa KOPAL pero hindi ikaw yun.

BTT:
mahirap maghanap ng "fresh" na SIR ngayon. kung ako sayo mag-abang ka sa mga malls or pag may nakita ka sa kalsada na sariwa, bigyan mo ng contact info para pag naisipan nila benta, matawagan ka. kasi kadalasan sa mga 2nd hand na nagbebenta sa mga automall puro laspag na

[vinj]

Hindi ko rin matiis hindi matawa. VTEC YO!

To TS, wag ka magalit kay shadow, wala siyang masamang ibig sabihin. may hot thread lang ngayon tungkol sa KOPAL pero hindi ikaw yun.

BTT:
mahirap maghanap ng "fresh" na SIR ngayon. kung ako sayo mag-abang ka sa mga malls or pag may nakita ka sa kalsada na sariwa, bigyan mo ng contact info para pag naisipan nila benta, matawagan ka. kasi kadalasan sa mga 2nd hand na nagbebenta sa mga automall puro laspag na

+100 paps.

To the TS: Napatiming ka lang dun sa kulitan at labasan ng sama ng loob sa ibang thread. ;)

On finding a fresh unit, i'd say its a tall order. You may see some who are selling supposedly stock units but you'll never know the history well enough (kung previously heavily modded or raced tapos binalik to stock lang, kung na-accident, etc.) unless you know the owner personally. I do know of a very nice, stock since brand new SiR but the owner will not sell it. Just take your time to look around for one. The usual problems will be similar to most 10-15 year old EFI cars (suspension, idling bugs, etc.).

[chuboy]

FYI kung ang tingin niyo eh racer wannabe ako, eh hindi ho. Matanda na ho ako para mag-tune or magpakabit ng kung anu ano sa kotse. Ang balak ko lang ay bumili kung meron man stock nito at gamitin ko tuwing weekend. Kung titingnan mo previous kotse ko na kakabenta ko lang last month lang (Altis 1.6e), busina lang ang alam kong pinalitan ko at lahat yun stock at wala pang tint.
Sa tingin ko wala namang masama kung gusto kong ma-experience ang kotseng gusto kong bilhin nung nasa kolehiyo palang ako pero di ko mabili. I am looking for past owners of the said car who would be kind enough to provide me inputs about their relevant and/or overall experience.

[chuboy]

+100 paps.

To the TS: Napatiming ka lang dun sa kulitan at labasan ng sama ng loob sa ibang thread. ;)

On finding a fresh unit, i'd say its a tall order. You may see some who are selling supposedly stock units but you'll never know the history well enough (kung previously heavily modded or raced tapos binalik to stock lang, kung na-accident, etc.) unless you know the owner personally. I do know of a very nice, stock since brand new SiR but the owner will not sell it. Just take your time to look around for one. The usual problems will be similar to most 10-15 year old EFI cars (suspension, idling bugs, etc.).

Ah ganun ba yun? Sige, pasensiya na. Bihira din kasi akong mag-online dahil sa work nadin, eh medyo maluwag ako ngayon kaya eto. hehe! thank you sa feedback mo sir. ang worry ko kasi kaya ayaw ko rin ng pinang-karera or madami ng kinabit tapos ibabalik lang kunwari ng stock eh mamaya marami ng naka-angasan or nakaaway yung previous driver na yun na mostly eh mga college kids. Baka kasi sakin bumalik at mapagkamalan ako pa mayari, mahirap na di pa naman ako nag-titint kasi malabo mata ko kahit may salamin. hehehe! iwas trouble lang mga chief!

[renzo_d10]

I can't help you where to look for fresh SIR but natatawa ako at timing itong thread mo sa kopal thread...

+100 papi. :hysterical:

BTT:

TS wag masyado mainit ulo. At huwag ka na lang din bumili ng SiR. Para sa fresh unit, you're looking at a ballpark figure of 400k+ and it doesn't come by often. For a 12 year old vehicle, 400k+ is too much. Bumile ka nalang ng Civic FD na 2006. Mas maganda pa kondisyon nun malamang.

Huwag mo na pangarapin bumili pa ng SiR ngayon. Lalo na kung hindi mo naman lang siya i-tutune. Bibili lang ako ng SiR kung may nagbebenta niyan ng FRESH talaga for 330k. Not a penny more. Malawak kasi yung capabilities niya to be tuned compared sa iba. Eh sabi mo nga matanda ka nalang din naman, FD nalang bilhin mo. Roughly the same performance, provides better comfort and is more modern for the same price of an SiR.

[chuboy]

Haha! Ganun ba? 300k lang naman kasi budget ko if ever maka-tsamba edi okay. Kahit for a while ko lang gagamitin, ayaw ko muna kasi magpatali sa car loan. gusto ko muna enjoy etong debt free period ng aking buhay. hehe! masyado na kasing mahal ang dating ng FD sakin, eh olats naman ang itsura ng dimension for its price. Though initially VTI lang talaga trip ko at nagtitipid pa ako ng budget for 200k-250k, na-realize ko lang na mas okay na dagdag na lang ng 50k at kung palarin eh mas bago at malakas ang hatak compared to the VTI.

Oks lang yun, di naman mainit ulo ko. Of all words kasi, bakit kopal pa. Uso padin pala mga away sa net. hehe!

[yapoy86]

meron civic na 2.0R yung model na bago yung FD... mas ok yun

[renzo_d10]

Kopal thread yun.

Dun sa 1.8V at 1.8S FD namin, solve ka na eh. Although once inunahan ako ng isang SiR na souped-up sa StarTol habang tumatakbo ako ng 155kph ta's parang nakatigil lang ako nung umuna siya sabi ko, ok lang... atleast ako masarap upo ko sa interior hindi katulad niyo tatalbog talbog dahil sa tigas ng suspension.

Sa 300k wala kang mabibiling SiR diyan. Yung mga pormado-kunong SiR nagsisimula yan sa 350k pataas. Swerte mo nalang nga kung may mahanap ka na under 400k na stock SiR eh.

Although frankly, ako gusto ko rin magkaron ng SiR for the sake of having one. Pero iniisip ko rin, bilis lang naman kasi panlaban nito eh marami naman kotse diyan which you can get for a cheaper price tapos tune mo makakauna ka na rin ng SiR eh. However, stock vs. stock talagang classic power niyan Civic na yan. And when the VTEC kicks in, boooooy it's music to the ears.

But then again, mahirap na makakuha ng stock na SiR. Suntok sa buwan nalang yan. Kadalasan makikita mo cleanly-modded or ricer. Tapos malamang sa malamang ilang beses na humataw hataw yun so beat up na rin makina.

Naka-sakay na ko sa EK VTi, matic pa nga eh. Mabilis naman siya. Swerte mo nalang kung meron ka mahanap na 00 VTi MT. Rare yun. Meron ako nakita sa pistonbay, fresh unit. Ewan ko lang kung andun pa yun.

[subaru_sti1]

ito mga fresh hehehe

[shadow]

anong kopal thread? nagtatanong ako ng maayos, kung wala kang masasabing matino. mas mabuti wag ka nalang mag-reply. kung may mali man akong nagawa, turuan mo ako para hindi ako maka-sagabal kung anumang maaring masamang dulot ng pag-gawa ko ng thread na ito.

hahaha...relax ka lang, basahin mabuti mga letters...pero no problem sa akin post mo...carry on

to answer your question mahirap or Wala ka na makukuhang fresh SIR, Saka bihira siguro may nagbebents dahil "classic" car for the Honda fanbois...holy grail for them

[renzo_d10]

ito mga fresh hehehe

Fresh from the paintshop.

[subaru_sti1]

hehehe OA naman yung benta ng iba sa SiR... sa sulit may nakita ako 500k at usually 330-350 parin ang bentahan ng 12yr old na civic... tinalo pa nya yung yr 99' na accord to think halos 1M isa nun. 675k lang naman SiR dati.. Pero if ever mag benta sila ng brand new ng SiR ngaun bibili ako kahit 800k pa siya hehehehe

[ans_lim168]

I agree that the Civic SiR is hard to come by especially the all stock ones. Why not consider a stock 99 - 00 Civic Vti?
You still have some bucks to spend for some repairs.

[dr. d]

for 300K, i would have bought....
AN ALTIS!! (or a vios..)
heh heh.
i have come to my age wherein i just want to get in and drive, not to get under and dirty..
yan din ang sabi sakin some time ago.. all SIRs are suspect of having been modified and/or raced some time in their existence.. thus, avoid them unless you know very well the owner..

p.s. what's "kopal" ? it doesn't seem to register in my geriatric dictionary..

[GTi]

In fairness the Civic SiR is actually relatively fuel efficient if you drive it as you would a normal car. 1.6L lang naman din yun eh. No need to fret about fuel expenses, you can even use it as your daily driver. As many folks said here, mahirap makahanap na bone stock, unraced SiR for sale. We had one in the family before, in orange and with body kit, big exhaust and spoiler no less. Pinangkakarera nila yan and I remember naka-ilang aksidente na yan to the point na nagkaroon na ng engine damage, even the front suspension arms have been changed!

If you are looking for a fast weekend car, I suggest you consider looking for the newest M/T Accord you can find. AFAIK merong 2.0L and 2.3L versions. Those are really fast as well, much more spacious and comfortable and these are more likely to be treated better than their smaller cousins and also less likely to have been raced and/or heavily modified.

[sirkosero]

sakit ng EK body, kalawang sa bubong... ewan ba bakit magmula 95-00 puro kalawang sa bubong problema