Honda low maintenance cost?

[Ciz]

Hi Is it true Honda cars have lower maintenance cost than other brands? Yan kasi pinagmamalaki nila and thought of getting a honda jazz nalang istead of mitsubishi mirage kasi mas nakakatipid daw sa PMS TIA!


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[sirkosero]

its because honda does not do the 1k and 5k pms of toyota/mitsu. every 10k kms ang pms ng honda sa casa

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[[archie]]

dahil lang every 10k pms kaya nila sinasabi mas matipid pms. mitsubishi every 5k pms.

between mirage and jazz, get the jazz.

[Ciz]

Ohh ok. Yun lang pala hindi din gaano kalaki difference.

I prefer the jazz over the mirage dahil mas maganda pormahan kaso It's too much to ask from my parents eh ang kailangan ko lang naman car pamasok :D thanks mga sir


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[LoBudget]

You might want to wait for the Wigo ng Toyota same as mirage. But since its Toyota it should be cheaper to maintain as it probably uses the same parts as a Vios. Every 10tkm yung PMS ng mga sasakyan kung naka synthetic ka na langis, pag plain mineral oil every 5tkm pa rin dapat palitan. I like the Honda mineral oil, siya lang yung 10-30w na nakikita ko, mura pa.

Dont just base the cost on regular PMS, you need to consider how much actual parts cost like suspension parts, tires, alternators, transmission parts, aircon maintenance, etc. PMS is usually just oil, filter, spark plugs, air filters, occasional change of other fluids, checking for loose bolts (if they actually do that every time), parts greasing and/or cleaning and (imho) non-essential flushes. Also, different CASAs within the same brand have different pricing for the same thing. Like some will charge 780/liter of synthetic motor oil while the other will charge 820/liter for the exact same thing.

[Ciz]

You might want to wait for the Wigo ng Toyota same as mirage. But since its Toyota it should be cheaper to maintain as it probably uses the same parts as a Vios. Every 10tkm yung PMS ng mga sasakyan kung naka synthetic ka na langis, pag plain mineral oil every 5tkm pa rin dapat palitan. I like the Honda mineral oil, siya lang yung 10-30w na nakikita ko, mura pa.

Dont just base the cost on regular PMS, you need to consider how much actual parts cost like suspension parts, tires, alternators, transmission parts, aircon maintenance, etc. PMS is usually just oil, filter, spark plugs, air filters, occasional change of other fluids, checking for loose bolts (if they actually do that every time), parts greasing and/or cleaning and (imho) non-essential flushes. Also, different CASAs within the same brand have different pricing for the same thing. Like some will charge 780/liter of synthetic motor oil while the other will charge 820/liter for the exact same thing.

Thank you sir. Yes will definitely check the wigo but pag new car nakakatakot bumili dahil baka mag recall nanaman maybe after a year

Between mirage and jazz which is cheaper kaya in terms of parts?

Ty sir


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[LoBudget]

Thank you sir. Yes will definitely check the wigo but pag new car nakakatakot bumili dahil baka mag recall nanaman maybe after a year

Between mirage and jazz which is cheaper kaya in terms of parts?

Ty sir


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New or not recalls happen, sometimes later in the vehicles life. I think just recently Explorer units were recalled parang 2 or more years na ata yung currently available version.

Generally Honda parts are more expensive than Mitsu or Toyota. Lamang siguro ng Jazz is marami nang parts na nagkalat, i'm not sure sa mirage since i dont know if it has cars that share the same parts. One thing you can do is check the close by parts shops and see who has jazz and mirage parts easily available. Start with bushings and other suspension parts since madalas yun ang pinapalitan every so often.

from my experience mapili din ang Honda sa ATF/cvt fluid, power steering and differential fluid (this last one is not applicable sa non-AWD/4x4 units ng honda). You have to use Honda branded for those items para trouble free ka as much as possible.

[LoBudget]

Thank you sir. Yes will definitely check the wigo but pag new car nakakatakot bumili dahil baka mag recall nanaman maybe after a year

Between mirage and jazz which is cheaper kaya in terms of parts?

Ty sir


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New or not recalls happen, sometimes later in the vehicles life. I think just recently Explorer units were recalled parang 2 or more years na ata yung currently available version. The mirage was available in other markets i think a few months to a year earlier than the Philippines so its still a safe bet. There was also a recent article about a US crash test where the Jazz scored a moderate rating in the front quarter impact... out of 11 i think the spark scored the best, but still just in the acceptable range. I dont recall if the mirage was also tested.

Generally Honda parts are more expensive than Mitsu or Toyota. Lamang siguro ng Jazz is marami nang parts na nagkalat, i'm not sure sa mirage since i dont know if it has cars that share the same parts. One thing you can do is check the close by parts shops and see who has jazz and mirage parts easily available. Start with bushings and other suspension parts since madalas yun ang pinapalitan every so often.

from my experience mapili din ang Honda sa ATF/cvt fluid, power steering and differential fluid (this last one is not applicable sa non-AWD/4x4 units ng honda). You have to use Honda branded for those items para trouble free ka as much as possible.

[Vodka]

You might want to wait for the Wigo ng Toyota same as mirage. But since its Toyota it should be cheaper to maintain as it probably uses the same parts as a Vios. Every 10tkm yung PMS ng mga sasakyan kung naka synthetic ka na langis, pag plain mineral oil every 5tkm pa rin dapat palitan. I like the Honda mineral oil, siya lang yung 10-30w na nakikita ko, mura pa.

Dont just base the cost on regular PMS, you need to consider how much actual parts cost like suspension parts, tires, alternators, transmission parts, aircon maintenance, etc. PMS is usually just oil, filter, spark plugs, air filters, occasional change of other fluids, checking for loose bolts (if they actually do that every time), parts greasing and/or cleaning and (imho) non-essential flushes. Also, different CASAs within the same brand have different pricing for the same thing. Like some will charge 780/liter of synthetic motor oil while the other will charge 820/liter for the exact same thing.

well it's great that honda philippines isn't forcing everyone to do PMS every 5,000 km. if you get your toyota manual under "normal conditions" the interval is also 10,000

i've had toyotas and hondas and always use mineral oil on them and run them 10,000 between changes because that's what the smart engineers who built the engine recommend. not just the advice of some shade tree mechanic :D

[maki mi]

The thing with Honda is they classify the Phils maintenance service under "extreme conditions". This 10k PMS by Honda only started with the FB model didn't it? My maintenance sched for my ES still says every 5k, I've actually pushed my oil changes at 6 - 7k kms.

[baludoy]

This 10k PMS by Honda only started with the FB model didn't it?

nope. our fd & gd respectively were casa bound every 10k when they were still under warranty

w/ our monty, the pms sched is every 5k and i'm beginning to puke at the site of every mitsu casa i come across. i'm seriously considering doing the pms outside of designated "stealerships" but then the warranty card they wave at you is enough for me to reconsider going the outsider route

btw, with the tropical heat we have, the sticky dust we endure, and the insane stop and go traffic we suffer daily, i think it's fair enough to consider our driving environment as extreme (if your talking about manila). but that's just me though

[LoBudget]

Change oil for normal mineral should be about 5k, and for me not more than 8months since we are in the extreme usage conditions. Its the semi and Fully that they say goes up to 10k. What you do for synthetic every 5k is not drain and fill, its just replace the oil filter and top-up. If the casa insists that you replace fully synthetic every 5k, then look to another casa or complain. I'm sure the modern cars will specify that in the manual anyway so the stealerships cant force you.

But its your vehicle, you do what you think is right. If at whatever interval you change your oil its still in decent condition then no worries. If you are draining black or burnt smelling oil all the time then maybe think of a shorter interval. Many people dont follow the service intervals when its out of warranty and dont really have any issues. In the end if you do experience a major breakdown due to improper maintenance its your time and money that will be spent and no one else's.

Every car comes with manual with the recommended service intervals and recommended check list, but dont just limit it to that list. If you hear, feel or smell anything weird about your vehicle then have it checked by at least 2 shops and maybe even one decent casa to get a holistic diagnosis.

[TopEngine]

Every 10km or 6 months "whichever comes first" ang PMS ng Honda, this is up to 60,000km or 3 years. So far sa casa kung saan ko rin binili kotse ko, maayos kausap at hindi garapal na kumita lang yung mga tao dun. Since low mileage yung kotse ko, after nila ma-check before quotation at nakita naman nila na hindi pa kailangan palitan yung particular part/s kahit na sa usual PMS papalitan na dapat, talagang hindi pa papalitan. They're are transparent pa, ipapakita s'yo yung usual na 20,000km PMS halimbawa na itong mga parts ang papalitan, "pero as we check sir hindi pa kailangan dahil malinis pa sir" (eg. ac filter, etc). As compared sa ibang casa ng ibang car manufacturers within our place dahil nag-canvass din ako sa iba nun when I was still buying a car, pinakahuli ko pinuntahan ang Honda kasi natanim sa isip ko na mahal ang Honda, hahahah... Honda ang pinaka 5-star service center within our area, kaya Honda car binili ko.

[Calistro]

^ Care to mention which casa is that bro?