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    Quote Originally Posted by bajumbo
    With regards to CVT not being given to Accords or CRVs ang hula ko kc di pa nila mastered ung CVT for bigger and more powerful engines. Nissan pa lang ata nakakagawa nito.
    The CVTs can't quite handle the torque with current materials. Well, not practically.

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    great inputs sirs.

    yup, the shift in-between gears is what i'm referring to. it's good to hear that it's almost instantaneous, sounds very promsing once they've perfected the material design for more powerful engines.

    thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha_One View Post
    The CVTs can't quite handle the torque with current materials. Well, not practically.
    Sa Toyota Group naman, the highest I've seen with their CVT is 500+ newton meters (for Lexus LS vehicles).

    Not sure if it can handle something more than 500 nm pero hopefully the torque limit will go up.
    Last edited by Blackraven; March 21st, 2007 at 05:37 PM.

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    my mom once had a 1.3 CVT City color-coding car so so... exciting yung tranny feeling formula 1 talaga but di mo masyado feel yung oomph... She sold it and bought a 2007 1.5 Jazz CVT, last week test drive ko kanina...woah to tell you the truth parang mas masarap pa siya idrive sa car ko. Now i really want to try an SMG Bimmer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajumbo
    With regards to CVT not being given to Accords or CRVs ang hula ko kc di pa nila mastered ung CVT for bigger and more powerful engines. Nissan pa lang ata nakakagawa nito.

    CVT is not durable. Period. So the less strain on it the longer it'll live and that can be achieved by using weaker engines.

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    am considering getting the 1.3 cvt. ok ba sya for daily trips on slex? di ba underpowered o maingay makina?

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    i Love my Vtec CVT Jazz. Really really really responsive. As soon as you press the + or - button, it'll shift gears asap. Our Focus has like a 1 or 1.5 second lag before it shifts gears in manual mode..

    BUT the downside of this is that SOBRANG HASSLE daw kung mawalan ka ng battery..You have to go back to the casa for them to calibrate it again..
    (I think my jazz still has 1 more year before I change batt..)

    And the CVT trany is really expensive to fix daw.. Hpe my jazz wont conk out of me just yet hehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by manager View Post
    am considering getting the 1.3 cvt. ok ba sya for daily trips on slex? di ba underpowered o maingay makina?
    having tried 1.3 city and the 1.5 jazz ang layo ng difference. Parang lugi ang pakiramdam mo sa 1.3 once you try the 1.5. I suggest go for the 1.5 konti lang naman ata diff.

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    The Honda CVT (multimatic with 7-speed) works best on R-series and L-series engines. The Fit/Jazz uses L-series engines so that's why it works well on it. Same goes for the R-series engines (R18 and R20) and this is most evident in the Honda Stream Minivan/MPV.

    Even so, I still rank Honda's CVT technology in 3rd place (2nd place for Toyota Group and 1st place goes to Nissan). The Honda CVT can't seem to handle V6 engines yet as the highest so far is a 2.4 liter engine (K24) sa Odyssey minivan/MPV. This good either be that it can't handle anything higher than 200 horsepower or it can't handle torque above 220-230nm. The current CVT of Honda would have to undergo revisions/improvements in order for it to handle V6 engines that require more torque and horsepower as well as to handle newer models in the future that use SH-AWD drivetrain.

    Hopefully, Honda would take note of these as they continue improvements on their 7-speed CVT technology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boyscout View Post
    having tried 1.3 city and the 1.5 jazz ang layo ng difference. Parang lugi ang pakiramdam mo sa 1.3 once you try the 1.5. I suggest go for the 1.5 konti lang naman ata diff.
    which brings me to my other consideration: kung 1.5 jazz, parang sa civic V na lang. liit lang difference

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    what's the best way to drive using cvt: gradual increase (light apak sa gas) in speed until you reach 60-80 and then maintain or get it up to the same speed asap and then maintain? this assumes, of course, na open road (and not stop and go)

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    Quote Originally Posted by a9828
    what's the best way to drive using cvt: gradual increase (light apak sa gas) in speed until you reach 60-80 and then maintain or get it up to the same speed asap and then maintain? this assumes, of course, na open road (and not stop and go)

    Accelerating too slowly wastes gas as will accelerating too fast.

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    hi guys bago lang ako dito. gusto ko lang ishare sa inyo experience kos a CVT ng honda city vtec ko. 0-80kph

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpY8yQYDydU

    7-speed auto mode yan. if naka D lang ako i find it weird kasi ang rpm ko constant lang talaga malapit sa redline pero still fun to drive talaga

    ito naman yung naka manual mode. as you can see, responsive talaga masyado

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fy3hgKTNBSs

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    basta ako ginagawa ko i maintain the rpm at around 1800-2000. constant na yan. 0-80kph. bihira ko na nga tignan yung speedometer e. hehehe. joined a honda econo-run before with a master tsikoteer, niky. hehehe. got 23km/L. :D

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