Honda Civic and E10/Ethanol gasoline [MERGED]

[honvic97]

Mga Hondas,what is the best gasoline sa honda civic vti 1997?Shell unleaded?Caltex Silver?petron unleaded?Yan lang mga kinakarga ko sa honda ko.Before when I still in province,Petron o shell lang.Pero nun nalaman ko na ang caltex silver daw ay maganda sa makina at matipid daw,caltex silver nako palagi.

[honvic97]

Petron Blaze nalang yata walang E10 pero ang mahal.pero lalakas daw hatak sasakyan pag eto gamit.totoo?

[microtsip]

Does anybody have an idea if it's possible to convert a Fuel-Injected car which is not yet compatible to E10 fuel? I have a Honda City 1999 LXi (Not the Type Z model), and honda posted it that it's not yet compatible for E10. I have already loaded it up with XCS for a couple of months until I discovered honda's posting.

I'll be loading up with Blaze until there's a solution for conversion.
I'd like to know if you guys have an idea on how much it will cost if there's a conversion kit available.


Thanks!

[Taurus]

I believe Petron's BLAZE also has blended enthanol.

Good thing that you have EFI . . . think of the other old cars that still has carburated engines. :twak: it is even much worse!

[voltscastillo]

i have a 99 carb corolla that runs e10 blended petrol with no drama, apart from a corroded canister valve and somewhat bad fuel economy (1.3 engine gets only 7-8, wtf? minsan it's 6-7 pag barado na air filter).

my previous 96 and 99 civic a/t ran e10 just fine and dandy.

my 98 a32 even likes seaoil extreme e10.

so my opinion here is: if it ain't broke, don't fix it. run that baby on any petrol you like until the engine breaks. then replace the whole engine na lang (which, i think, is more cost effective than repairing the old one and converting it to run like a flex fuel vehicle) then run another 100,000 kms.

by then, wasak na yung kotse. time for a new one which ought to be compatible with e10 by then.

[bob_marley19]

Ano ba nagiging problema pag nilagyan mo ng e10 ang carb engine?

[ghosthunter]

I believe Petron's BLAZE also has blended enthanol.

I think Petron BLAZE is still without ethanol.

[ghosthunter]

problems on EFI cars with E10 would include (but not limited to) the following:

-rust in the gas tank (from the water content in the e10 gasoline)
-hardening of the non-ethanol compatible rubber fuel hoses.
-erosion/corrosion of some metal fuel hoses (resulting in pin hole leaks).

[sleepsus]

I think Petron BLAZE is still without ethanol.

if the gas boy's answer at Petron Kamagong is any sort of confirmation, Petron's Blaze has no E10. It's what I used when I topped up this morning ... switched from XCS.

And the Blaze pump didn't have an E10 sticker.

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*ghosthunter


problems on EFI cars with E10 would include (but not limited to) the following:

-rust in the gas tank (from the water content in the e10 gasoline)
-hardening of the non-ethanol compatible rubber fuel hoses.
-erosion/corrosion of some metal fuel hoses (resulting in pin hole leaks).

thanks for the info. so is there a way to replace the affected parts to make it compatible for E10?

and also, what is the safest fuel to load for now? my first option, as what i've already stated on my first post, is Petron Blaze.

pag ethanol-blended lang yung fuel (not 10%-90% mixture), like XCS (if i'm not mistaken, is not E10 but still contains ethanol -- around 5%?), me negative effect pa din kaya sa kotse?

naninigurado lang.. i'm currenly draining the currently loaded XCS. just making sure na tama yung maikakarga ko after


thanks again.

[ghosthunter]

thanks for the info. so is there a way to replace the affected parts to make it compatible for E10?

Rubber fuel hoses are easy to replace but make sure the new hoses have the same pressure rating etc.

Fuel tank rusting... well, that is harder. It can be avoided/minimized by avoiding gas stations prone to frequent flooding (or avoid the stations for a couple of weeks)

As for the metal fuel lines, depends if E10 compatible replacements are available for your car.

and also, what is the safest fuel to load for now? my first option, as what i've already stated on my first post, is Petron Blaze.

In my case, I use either Petron Blaze or Total Pro-Tech if I want to avoid E10 gas.

pag ethanol-blended lang yung fuel (not 10%-90% mixture), like XCS (if i'm not mistaken, is not E10 but still contains ethanol -- around 5%?), me negative effect pa din kaya sa kotse?

Petron XCS is E10 gasoline or 10% ethanol blended in gasoline.

Kinda rare to find E5 gasoline these days but it just means the effects of ethanol will be slower to occur than E10, E20 or E80 blends.

[microtsip]

Rubber fuel hoses are easy to replace but make sure the new hoses have the same pressure rating etc.

Thanks. I've asked honda customer support also and they provided me the parts that need to be replaced on a Honda City LXi '99

1. 17651-SX8-T00 Tube Filler Neck (Japan)
2. 17653-SR7-000 Tube Breather (Japan)


I called-up Honda Parts, only the Tube Filler Neck is currently available, and it's on Alabang branch only. The other one is out-of-stock...

Maybe some of you guys know where to get these parts.

In my case, I use either Petron Blaze or Total Pro-Tech if I want to avoid E10 gas.

Petron XCS is E10 gasoline or 10% ethanol blended in gasoline.

I'm sticking on to Blaze for now until I replace the parts that were suggested by Honda.

How about Shell and Caltex? What are their fuels that do not contain E10?

[dandyagustin]

problems on EFI cars with E10 would include (but not limited to) the following:

-rust in the gas tank (from the water content in the e10 gasoline)
-hardening of the non-ethanol compatible rubber fuel hoses.
-erosion/corrosion of some metal fuel hoses (resulting in pin hole leaks).

Sir, noob question, pero I'll ask narin, taken these possible effects of E10 with EFI, what if the recommended Octane for my Civic 1.8S is between 91-95, will I still gas up with Petron Blaze (96 or 97?) or stick with XCS/E10 (95)?

[ReXBadBoy]

I think Petron BLAZE is still without ethanol.

By 2011 all Petron products will be e10... as compliant to Biofuel Act... lahat ng mga yan magiging e10 na

[silverworx]

diba XCS is e10 na? Whenever i'm using e10 in my ek vti with stock engine, maganda ang performance pero poor ang consumption 7-8kms/L city driving. Pero dikopa na-try yung xcs with my d15b engine.

[ayokis]

Thanks for the info. buti nalng safe from e10 yung civic ko..woohooo

[LoBudget]

Anyone have an idea if anything needs to be changed for a first generation CRV to be euro4 gasoline compatible? Or are all cars ok to use any higher rated euro fuel, its just that the emissions will not be at that level?

[20santafe14]

Wala ba talaga average fuel consumption meter sa 2010/2011 honda civic 1.8s/2.0s? Or hindi ko lang mahanap. Tnx

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