honda city engine jerking

[jowen_2]

Japan surplus ignition coil was 1,200 each.

Also one thing I have noticed is that using original honda spark plugs made the ride smoother.


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Kamusta FC mo sir? I was on a long drive kahapon, pumalo lang ng 11km/l on a 200km drive. May napalitan na ko 2 ignition coil. Thanks po

[restituto]

I have also experienced this in my 2003 City iDSI M/T. The feeling is just like nag fuel starving and nag jerk, but during one of my PMS schedule sa CASA, the na e replace yung fuel filter, but ganon parin. This happens during acceleration. The jerking happens paminsan minsan lang naman.

Ano po ba problema nito? I've been driving this car for 14.5 yrs. Dati wala naman. In short hindi naman seguro sa pag timing ng clutching, shifting and stepping ko on the gas pedal.

[hyperjigs]

Kamusta FC mo sir? I was on a long drive kahapon, pumalo lang ng 11km/l on a 200km drive. May napalitan na ko 2 ignition coil. Thanks po

Fuel consumption I don’t really measure but I can say it went back to normal.

For me the jerking was really solved by replacing defective ignition coils and going back to original honda spark plugs. Still happy after 10.5 yrs of ownership


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[benchph1]

Search ka lang sa OLX. I saw a set of those posted there before


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[StockEngine]

Search ka lang sa OLX. I saw a set of those posted there before


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or search sa FB.

[Rick21]

Nagpapalit na ko ng tranny last year.. Surplus lang.. Bumalik na naman yung jerking.. Lalo na pag paangat.. Pero pag unang start/byahe wala kang mararamdaman na delay pero pag na traffic na.. Ayun bumabalik.. Susubukan ko rin gumamit nung honda na spark plug..magkano po ba sa honda yun? And pa check ko ulit ignition coils...thank you sa mga suggestion nyo.. [emoji106][emoji106]

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[ecport]

I had a similar problem with my 2008 Honda City idsi. It jerks and does not engage immediately when placed in Reverse. When I brake, then release the brake pedal (on D), it takes awhile before the car moves forward. An experienced Honda mechanic said this is a common problem of Honda city, jazz and Fit models which has a similar design. The problem is with the flywheel where the springs loosen over time. Apparently there are 2 types of flywheel daw, a thailand made where the springs are exposed and a Japan made where the springs are encased. My city had the former. The mechanic replaced it yesterday with a surplus flywheel (from Japan daw) with encased springs. He cleaned the throttle too and replaced the engine mounts. Surplus flywheel cost PH 3500. Total labor of 5k for the mounts, flywheel and cleaning. So far after a 30kms drive, no more jerking on R or delay when shifting from N to D during a full stop. Will see how long this lasts. After reading several posts, from various Asian forums including Tsikot, the flywheel design and build seems to be the problem. According to the mechanic the springs on the flywheel loosen which causes the transmission to jerk and vibrate.

[Rick21]

I had a similar problem with my 2008 Honda City idsi. It jerks and does not engage immediately when placed in Reverse. When I brake, then release the brake pedal (on D), it takes awhile before the car moves forward. An experienced Honda mechanic said this is a common problem of Honda city, jazz and Fit models which has a similar design. The problem is with the flywheel where the springs loosen over time. Apparently there are 2 types of flywheel daw, a thailand made where the springs are exposed and a Japan made where the springs are encased. My city had the former. The mechanic replaced it yesterday with a surplus flywheel (from Japan daw) with encased springs. He cleaned the throttle too and replaced the engine mounts. Surplus flywheel cost PH 3500. Total labor of 5k for the mounts, flywheel and cleaning. So far after a 30kms drive, no more jerking on R or delay when shifting from N to D during a full stop. Will see how long this lasts. After reading several posts, from various Asian forums including Tsikot, the flywheel design and build seems to be the problem. According to the mechanic the springs on the flywheel loosen which causes the transmission to jerk and vibrate.

Sir ecport.. San po kayo nagpagawa? Saka nagpalit po ba kayo ng cvtf nung pinaltan din ng flywheel? Thanks

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[ecport]

[QUOTE=Rick21;3054419]Sir ecport.. San po kayo nagpagawa? Saka nagpalit po ba kayo ng cvtf nung pinaltan din ng flywheel?

Went to nis-hon at banaue corner quezon ave for the parts. Look for Lito, he is the mechanic. I think you can pay less than 3,500 for the flywheel. Lito charges 3,500 for labor including throttle cleaning. I replaced the cvtf too. It took Lito about 4 hours. Just be aware, no guarantees with surplus parts.

[Rick21]

[QUOTE=ecport;3054746]

Sir ecport.. San po kayo nagpagawa? Saka nagpalit po ba kayo ng cvtf nung pinaltan din ng flywheel?

Went to nis-hon at banaue corner quezon ave for the parts. Look for Lito, he is the mechanic. I think you can pay less than 3,500 for the flywheel. Lito charges 3,500 for labor including throttle cleaning. I replaced the cvtf too. It took Lito about 4 hours. Just be aware, no guarantees with surplus parts.

Thanks Sir [emoji106]

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[Rick21]

Last night namatayan ako nang makina from brake tapos nag gas pedal na ko... Anu kaya mga prob sir? Same din nung umaga namatayan din.. Honda city idsi at ang gamit ko po.. Thank you

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[17Sphynx17]

Last night namatayan ako nang makina from brake tapos nag gas pedal na ko... Anu kaya mga prob sir? Same din nung umaga namatayan din.. Honda city idsi at ang gamit ko po.. Thank you

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Nakaon ba aircon mo that time?

Nangangatog ba siya when you put it or leave it drive habang nakabrake?

Bumababa ba idle below 800rpm?

Recently just had our 2008 1.3 i-Dsi CVT suffer through something similar and immediately brought it to Honda.

Re pangangatog, nilinis ng Honda yung may control/regulate ng idling. I think it is called Throttle Body Controller (I referred to it as idler when I went to casa). They also replaced all my spark plugs, sabay na din full change oil.

Walang issue CVT ko, but it was 4 years since may last CVTF change, so pinasabay ko na lang.

After that, meron pa din shuddering while in drive from brake/standstill bago siya gumapang, though at least di na bumagsak below 700rpm yung rpm ko. Yun kasi nangyari nung namatay siya, kita ko talaga mga around 500rpm range na yung needle before siya namatay.

Since sinabihan din ako ng Honda na madumi na AC ko, pinalinis ko sa kakilala namin na gumagawa ng car aircon sa may Roosevelt malapit. After cleaning, mas nabawasan din kahit papaano instance ng shuddering, pero meron pa din.

Last attempt ko to try and check if matulungan para bawasan yung "ngatog" niya is instead na 91RON, 95RON na kinarga ko full tank from almost empty na nakailaw na yung fuel warning light. Ayun, di hamak na mas wala na nga yung pangangatog.

May slight lang, but experience ko na yung sa i-Dsi nung medyo bago bago pa siya, kahit sa isa namin sedan na CVT, may something similar din before re-accelerating from a stop.

Anyway, opinion ko lang naman, pero dinadala ko talaga sa Honda mismo for major issues. Schedule ko kasi ng PMS after warranty was 3 years outside casa ang service, then 4th year sa Honda. Medyo napaaga lang itong pangangatog. So since 11 years old na din yung unit, ill change intervals to 2 years outside and on every 3rd year sa Honda na lang para sabay yung CVTF replacement.

[ecport]

Hello 17Sphynx17,

Baka pareho sa idsi ko, flywheel ang naging problema. I have a 2008 1.3 idsi a/t. Subukan mo ilagay sa Reverse. Pag mayroon kang marinig na kabog or thud, bago gumalaw ang sasakyan, baka nga flywheel ang problema. Other symptoms are low idling, delayed shifting, jerking engine. Sa akin, never naman ako namatayan, pero parang mamamatay every time I shift. Baka rin electronic ang problema - spark plugs or the coil. If your car jerks when placed in Reverse, there's big chance it's the flywheel. I hope this helps.

[17Sphynx17]

Hello 17Sphynx17,

Baka pareho sa idsi ko, flywheel ang naging problema. I have a 2008 1.3 idsi a/t. Subukan mo ilagay sa Reverse. Pag mayroon kang marinig na kabog or thud, bago gumalaw ang sasakyan, baka nga flywheel ang problema. Other symptoms are low idling, delayed shifting, jerking engine. Sa akin, never naman ako namatayan, pero parang mamamatay every time I shift. Baka rin electronic ang problema - spark plugs or the coil. If your car jerks when placed in Reverse, there's big chance it's the flywheel. I hope this helps.

Hi! My City's issue had been resolved. Honda cleaned the Throttle Body Control (not 100% sure if that is what it is called but basically it controlled the idling "level"). Also replaced all spark plugs and changed oil. After Honda Service, car was running way better, no jerking anymore. Ignition coil, they didn't find any issue.

Idling issue, still shuddered a bit more than I was used to and Honda did inform me that my AC needed cleaning after 10 years of ownership but I didn't have it done there. Had it done outside in a trusted talyer that works on our out of warranty car aircon. Shuddering further reduced but still present. Last resort was changing fuel choice from 91RON to now 95RON. Problem is almost completely gone. =)

Prior to that, I had another "shuddering" incident 4 years ago. They found it was a wheel bearing issue as the shudder/jerk always presented itself when I was executing a U-turn or full turn. After they replaced the bearings, problem was also gone. I can't remember if they also replaced flywheel. It's in the folder of service records I keep but will have to dig through it to find it out.

[Rick21]

Nakaon ba aircon mo that time?

Nangangatog ba siya when you put it or leave it drive habang nakabrake?

Bumababa ba idle below 800rpm?

Recently just had our 2008 1.3 i-Dsi CVT suffer through something similar and immediately brought it to Honda.

Re pangangatog, nilinis ng Honda yung may control/regulate ng idling. I think it is called Throttle Body Controller (I referred to it as idler when I went to casa). They also replaced all my spark plugs, sabay na din full change oil.

Walang issue CVT ko, but it was 4 years since may last CVTF change, so pinasabay ko na lang.

After that, meron pa din shuddering while in drive from brake/standstill bago siya gumapang, though at least di na bumagsak below 700rpm yung rpm ko. Yun kasi nangyari nung namatay siya, kita ko talaga mga around 500rpm range na yung needle before siya namatay.

Since sinabihan din ako ng Honda na madumi na AC ko, pinalinis ko sa kakilala namin na gumagawa ng car aircon sa may Roosevelt malapit. After cleaning, mas nabawasan din kahit papaano instance ng shuddering, pero meron pa din.

Last attempt ko to try and check if matulungan para bawasan yung "ngatog" niya is instead na 91RON, 95RON na kinarga ko full tank from almost empty na nakailaw na yung fuel warning light. Ayun, di hamak na mas wala na nga yung pangangatog.

May slight lang, but experience ko na yung sa i-Dsi nung medyo bago bago pa siya, kahit sa isa namin sedan na CVT, may something similar din before re-accelerating from a stop.

Anyway, opinion ko lang naman, pero dinadala ko talaga sa Honda mismo for major issues. Schedule ko kasi ng PMS after warranty was 3 years outside casa ang service, then 4th year sa Honda. Medyo napaaga lang itong pangangatog. So since 11 years old na din yung unit, ill change intervals to 2 years outside and on every 3rd year sa Honda na lang para sabay yung CVTF replacement.

Thanks sa tip sir

Ung sa rpm ko din kapag naka aircon at naka idle ako eh parang bumababa sya nang 700 rpm.. Tapos bblik din nang 800..and mukhang flywheel na naman ang prob.. Dahil kapag nag reverse ako eh may nginig na din.. Di ko din alam kung flywheel or peke ung cvt sa banawe.. Mag uupdate ako once napacheck ko na ulit

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[Rick21]

Nakaon ba aircon mo that time?

Nangangatog ba siya when you put it or leave it drive habang nakabrake?

Bumababa ba idle below 800rpm?

Recently just had our 2008 1.3 i-Dsi CVT suffer through something similar and immediately brought it to Honda.

Re pangangatog, nilinis ng Honda yung may control/regulate ng idling. I think it is called Throttle Body Controller (I referred to it as idler when I went to casa). They also replaced all my spark plugs, sabay na din full change oil.

Walang issue CVT ko, but it was 4 years since may last CVTF change, so pinasabay ko na lang.

After that, meron pa din shuddering while in drive from brake/standstill bago siya gumapang, though at least di na bumagsak below 700rpm yung rpm ko. Yun kasi nangyari nung namatay siya, kita ko talaga mga around 500rpm range na yung needle before siya namatay.

Since sinabihan din ako ng Honda na madumi na AC ko, pinalinis ko sa kakilala namin na gumagawa ng car aircon sa may Roosevelt malapit. After cleaning, mas nabawasan din kahit papaano instance ng shuddering, pero meron pa din.

Last attempt ko to try and check if matulungan para bawasan yung "ngatog" niya is instead na 91RON, 95RON na kinarga ko full tank from almost empty na nakailaw na yung fuel warning light. Ayun, di hamak na mas wala na nga yung pangangatog.

May slight lang, but experience ko na yung sa i-Dsi nung medyo bago bago pa siya, kahit sa isa namin sedan na CVT, may something similar din before re-accelerating from a stop.

Anyway, opinion ko lang naman, pero dinadala ko talaga sa Honda mismo for major issues. Schedule ko kasi ng PMS after warranty was 3 years outside casa ang service, then 4th year sa Honda. Medyo napaaga lang itong pangangatog. So since 11 years old na din yung unit, ill change intervals to 2 years outside and on every 3rd year sa Honda na lang para sabay yung CVTF replacement.

Sir Sphynx ano po pala name nung shop na pina servican ninyo nang aircon.. Need ko na din magpalinis kasi...hehe ty

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Good am/pm mga sir.. buhay pa po tong thread na to? Nangyari sa akin kagabi lang biglang nag sudden brake ako pero di naman sobrang full stop. pagkapreno ko namatay siya. ginawa ko nagshift lang ako sa P tapos nag start naman din agad. pero nagkarun na siya ng jerk everytime na mag speed up ako o full throttle ako na hinding hindi naman nangyayari before.

nabili ko kasi ito ng secondhand nung january at ginagamit di kasi ng 18 years old na anak ko ang honda city 1.3 AT idsi 2008mdl. kaso nag aalala ako na baka sa kanya lumabas ang issue o mamatayan din siya ng engine like ng nangyari sa akin.. nakakapag-alala din para sa kanya. sorry po sa off topic

kakatapos ko lang ipa pms sa casa marikina nung feb. change oil, replaced spark plug, replace air filter at replace ng front and rear brakes.. napansin ko din kasi after ng namatay engine sa pag sudden brake ko na para iba na sa pakiramdam ko sa sasakyan ko na parang pigil siya at pag nag speed up ka nagjejerk tapos lumakas siya sa kunsumo sa gas.

at isa pa sa napansin ko tumitigas ang manibela/power steering niya everytime na magfufull turn ako ng left and right. napansin ko din na wala siya reservior ng power steering. sorry sa tanong kasi first honda car namin ito. kaya gusto ko siya maalagan at maiayos at di rin ako kabahan pag ginagamit ng anak ko..

ano po kaya culprit ng nagjejerk at medyo lumakas sa gas? and sa tumitigas na power steering?

[yapoy86]

Good am/pm mga sir.. buhay pa po tong thread na to? Nangyari sa akin kagabi lang biglang nag sudden brake ako pero di naman sobrang full stop. pagkapreno ko namatay siya. ginawa ko nagshift lang ako sa P tapos nag start naman din agad. pero nagkarun na siya ng jerk everytime na mag speed up ako o full throttle ako na hinding hindi naman nangyayari before.

nabili ko kasi ito ng secondhand nung january at ginagamit di kasi ng 18 years old na anak ko ang honda city 1.3 AT idsi 2008mdl. kaso nag aalala ako na baka sa kanya lumabas ang issue o mamatayan din siya ng engine like ng nangyari sa akin.. nakakapag-alala din para sa kanya. sorry po sa off topic

kakatapos ko lang ipa pms sa casa marikina nung feb. change oil, replaced spark plug, replace air filter at replace ng front and rear brakes.. napansin ko din kasi after ng namatay engine sa pag sudden brake ko na para iba na sa pakiramdam ko sa sasakyan ko na parang pigil siya at pag nag speed up ka nagjejerk tapos lumakas siya sa kunsumo sa gas.

at isa pa sa napansin ko tumitigas ang manibela/power steering niya everytime na magfufull turn ako ng left and right. napansin ko din na wala siya reservior ng power steering. sorry sa tanong kasi first honda car namin ito. kaya gusto ko siya maalagan at maiayos at di rin ako kabahan pag ginagamit ng anak ko..

ano po kaya culprit ng nagjejerk at medyo lumakas sa gas? and sa tumitigas na power steering?

Electronic power assist steering na po yan kaya walang reservoir para sa power steering fluid

Sa jerking sa tingin ko yung ignition coil mo ang problema.. kinakapos yan sa kuryente kaya hirap.. check mo spark plug at sigurado maitim na yan

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Electronic power assist steering na po yan kaya walang reservoir para sa power steering fluid

Sa jerking sa tingin ko yung ignition coil mo ang problema.. kinakapos yan sa kuryente kaya hirap.. check mo spark plug at sigurado maitim na yan

Ty sir sa info. Ipacheck ko mga Spark plug at mga ignition coil.

Sir, ano gagawin sa electonic power steering niya bumalik sa lambot o smooth ang steering? Ano ipapacheck sir and and saan pede ipaayos? Madali lang ba ito?

Sorry sa madaming tanong sir. TIA.

[benchph1]

Good am/pm mga sir.. buhay pa po tong thread na to? Nangyari sa akin kagabi lang biglang nag sudden brake ako pero di naman sobrang full stop. pagkapreno ko namatay siya. ginawa ko nagshift lang ako sa P tapos nag start naman din agad. pero nagkarun na siya ng jerk everytime na mag speed up ako o full throttle ako na hinding hindi naman nangyayari before.

nabili ko kasi ito ng secondhand nung january at ginagamit di kasi ng 18 years old na anak ko ang honda city 1.3 AT idsi 2008mdl. kaso nag aalala ako na baka sa kanya lumabas ang issue o mamatayan din siya ng engine like ng nangyari sa akin.. nakakapag-alala din para sa kanya. sorry po sa off topic

kakatapos ko lang ipa pms sa casa marikina nung feb. change oil, replaced spark plug, replace air filter at replace ng front and rear brakes.. napansin ko din kasi after ng namatay engine sa pag sudden brake ko na para iba na sa pakiramdam ko sa sasakyan ko na parang pigil siya at pag nag speed up ka nagjejerk tapos lumakas siya sa kunsumo sa gas.

at isa pa sa napansin ko tumitigas ang manibela/power steering niya everytime na magfufull turn ako ng left and right. napansin ko din na wala siya reservior ng power steering. sorry sa tanong kasi first honda car namin ito. kaya gusto ko siya maalagan at maiayos at di rin ako kabahan pag ginagamit ng anak ko..

ano po kaya culprit ng nagjejerk at medyo lumakas sa gas? and sa tumitigas na power steering?

Hope you did more research because that specific generation had problems with its CVT tranny. Anyway nabili mo na. On the bright side, that car is very fuel efficient as long as you take care of it.

Jerking might be caused by ignition coils. Since you’ve already changed the spark plugs. Individual naman yun so just replace the faulty one.

Bout your issue with the steering, there are these “torque sensors” mounted on the steering rack that senses when you turn the wheel, they give signal to the EPS motor to assist in steering. These might be your problem.


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