Honda City 1.3S 04 MT aircon / RPM problem

[eido]

sirs, lately nag kaka problema aircon ko saka RPM. pag pumalo RPM ko sa 2k biglang nawawala lamig ng aircon. pag pinatay ko naman yung AC via AC button babagsak yung RPM to 1k. pag on ko ulit palo ulit sa 2k yung RPM pero walang lamig yung aircon

pag tumaas RPM at nawala lamig ng aircon ginagawa ko papatayin ko muna yung AC via AC button pero bukas pa fan tapos try ko ulit after ilang minutes. minsan lumalamig ulit aircon madalas hindi. pag naka pag pahinga na ulit kotse pag unang bukas ng aircon malamig na ulit, pero pag tumaas ulit RPM ko to 2k mawawala na naman yung lamig ng aircon

ano kaya problem? nung nag pa service kse ako sa honda greenbelt tapos sinabi ko yung problem ng aircon sabi sa akin baka daw aircon compressor yung problem. pero hindi pa ako nag papa check ng compressor. alam ko na kse sasabihin ng honda "sir palit na ho tayo ng compressor". gusto ko muna humingi ng opinion dito bago ako bumalik sa honda

haba sorry hehe

TIA

[Daddycool]

Try to go to Mang Mario at his residence in Bago Bantay Quezon City. There's a thread here already about him, his expertise in car aircon and his exact address.

My 2004 Honda City Idsi had a similar problem last year. Nawawala ang lamig after running the car after some time. I went to his residence and told him my problem and right away he knew what the problem is. He asked one of his boys to look at my aircon. In less than 30 minutes, the problem was solved. The guy just reduced one thin small piec of washer of the compressor clutch which, according to Mang Mario, disengages easily as the unit becomes old, hence, the compressor won't work. And he just charged me P100 for that. My aircon functions perfectly well until now.

[adapilado]

baka barado na valve,,same ng prob ng corolla ko biglang nawawala lamig off ko lang ang aircon after 5mins on ko uli malamig na siya ulit...kada lalabas yun sakit niya yun lang ginagawa ko pinalinis ko aircon palit ng valve kasi barado di na siya maihipan pagbili ko ng bagong valve swabe ihipan nagpalit na din ako ng dryer yun after nagawa di na nawawala lamig

sana makatulong

[Type 100]

Been there experienced that.

Have your A/C system cleaned and have the compressor clutch looked at. The magnetic clutch isn't engaging - that's why you have loss of cooling and the high idling problem.

An A/C technician can remove some of the spacers so that the clutch engages better. I've practically removed all the spacers on my compressor, so if this problem happens again I'll probably be looking at a brand-new compressor.

HTH

[eido]

*daddycool
nung nawawala ba lamig ng kotse mo tumataas idling mo? sa akin kse tataas muna idling to 2k tapos biglang mawawala lamig ng aircon

*adapilado
sa akin kse minsan pag off / on ko ayaw pa din lumamig. kahit after 20min ayaw pa din minsan

*Type 100
yan din sinabi nung taga honda sa akin. compressor na kaya talaga problem? mahal pa naman ng compressor. 5 years pa lang kotse namin, ganun lang ba talaga buhay ng compressor mga 5 years lang?

may nabasa ako dito sa honda cars talk regarding high idling and low cool aircon. MAF sensor and servo naman daw. same lang din kaya ng problem yun?

may alam ba kayo within makati na magaling mag check ng aircon?

thanks sa mga reply guys

[Type 100]

*Type 100
yan din sinabi nung taga honda sa akin. compressor na kaya talaga problem? mahal pa naman ng compressor. 5 years pa lang kotse namin, ganun lang ba talaga buhay ng compressor mga 5 years lang?

Trust me it's the same thing. Your City and my Jazz are mechanical twins. Try to have the compressor spacers removed and see what happens - it's a very cheap fix. Dukot lang yan.

Compressor lifespan depends on the technology used. There are at least two types - one is more robust but has more parasitic loss from the engine; the other is more economical but when it goes kaput you need to replace it. I'm not sure which one is ours.

[Daddycool]

I've never noticed kung tumataas ung RPM before mawala yung lamig kasi palaging on the run yung car tuwing mawawala yung lamig. Pacheck mo muna ung spacers ng compressor clutch as suggested, mura lang naman yan. Pag di pa rin nakuha duon, paservice mo na yung buong aircon system mo.

[eido]

*Type 100
yung Jazz mo pala may filter yung aircon? nung pina service ko kse pinakita sa akin walang filter yung aircon. hinatak yung glove box sa passenger side sa harap tapos pinakita na walang filter. yung model ko daw walang filter talaga pero yung mga sumunod meron na

yup pa check ko muna sabihin ko silipin yung compressor spacers/clutch

pag dinala ko naman siguro sa aircon service center yung kotse tapos sinabi ko na silipin yung compressor spacers/clutch alam na nila agad yun dba?

san pala ok mag pa check ng aircon sa makati area?

kaya pala na ako dumukot nung spacers? hehe

thanks ulit

[Type 100]

*Type 100
yung Jazz mo pala may filter yung aircon? nung pina service ko kse pinakita sa akin walang filter yung aircon. hinatak yung glove box sa passenger side sa harap tapos pinakita na walang filter. yung model ko daw walang filter talaga pero yung mga sumunod meron na

yup pa check ko muna sabihin ko silipin yung compressor spacers/clutch

pag dinala ko naman siguro sa aircon service center yung kotse tapos sinabi ko na silipin yung compressor spacers/clutch alam na nila agad yun dba?

san pala ok mag pa check ng aircon sa makati area?

kaya pala na ako dumukot nung spacers? hehe

thanks ulit

Wala rin akong filter sa blower. I make my own DIY A/C filter out of 3M Filtrete material, fitted to the air mix flap.

Suki kami sa Cool-Mate. Distributor sila ng Denso. They're along Pasong Tamo Ext.

Dapat alam na nila tungkol sa compressor clutch spacers. Kilalang sakit na iyan ng GD Jazz and City.

[eido]

*Type 100
Magkano pala nagastos mo nung pinaadjust mo yung compressor spacer? Pag nag palinis ka pala aircon mag kano gastos mo?

Nagpunta ako sa kool care vito cruz ext. Binigyan ako ng est Php2889 kasama na linis ng aircon. ok na ba yung presyo?

Try ko punta dun sa cool mate para pa estimate din ako

Thanks!