Honda Cars PH launches 2.0-liter Civic, other 1.8-liter variants

**basti08** · July 16th, 2012 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by azkikr

wala ng cruise control kahit sa 2.0 EL?

anticipated yan. and a host of other features from the 1.8 EXi ang mawawala

**jut703** · July 17th, 2012 12:29 AM

Aanhin naman ang cruise control sa Pilipinas? Even in the SLEX and NLEX, there's really very little opportunity to go at a steady pace all throughout since traffic is usually erratic.

Anyway, Honda's really quick to update their site:
Honda

**niky** · July 17th, 2012 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by crazy_boy

is there any truth that Honda (Global) will be coming out with another all new civic next year? i remember reading in a US site that this model is a flop in US.

They're rushing the Mid-Model Change... or the facelift... to address criticisms over the plastics in the interior and the relatively conservative styling.

But doing poorly? The Civic is selling like hotcakes in both the US and Canada. Top three in Canada, top five in the US... a country where "compact" cars like the Civic sell very poorly compared to the Camry, Accord and pick-ups. Granted, dealership incentives have been raised to move the cars, but considering it's more expensive than the competition to begin with, that just brings its price down to par.

The media may hate it, but the Civic is a hit. Because for customers, you're getting the great engine, cabin space and chassis from the FD Civic (with many improvements in chassis layout and interior space), along with a much more comfortable ride and seats. Won't impress typical Honda boy-racer fans, but for people moving down from an Accord or sideways from a Corolla, the Civic hits the spot.

Besides... if you want a Fast and Furious Civic... go buy a secondhand FD MT.

**zel.chikot** · July 17th, 2012 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by niky

Besides... if you want a Fast and Furious Civic... go buy a secondhand FD MT.

Sir niky, you mean the all new honda civic FB 1.8 MT won't be able to match the speed of the honda civic FD 1.8 S/V MT?

**niky** · July 17th, 2012 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by zel.chikot

Sir niky, you mean the all new honda civic FB 1.8 MT won't be able to match the speed of the honda civic FD 1.8 S/V MT?

The FB is now heavier. Around 1250 kgs (same weight now as the base 1.6 Lancer EX)... yet the motor, despite being rated the same, seems a bit more powerful on the dyno... so it might be slower, but probably not by much.

Then again, it's not the speed per se that's the issue. It's the chassis tuning. The new FB has a softer suspension and slower steering than the FD. In other words, it's more relaxing and less exciting to drive.

**ghosthunter** · July 17th, 2012 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by niky

The FB is now heavier. Around 1250 kgs (same weight now as the base 1.6 Lancer EX)... yet the motor, despite being rated the same, seems a bit more powerful on the dyno... so it might be slower, but probably not by much.

Then again, it's not the speed per se that's the issue. It's the chassis tuning. The new FB has a softer suspension and slower steering than the FD. In other words, it's more relaxing and less exciting to drive.

Basically a small Accord.

**crazy_boy** · July 17th, 2012 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by niky

They're rushing the Mid-Model Change... or the facelift... to address criticisms over the plastics in the interior and the relatively conservative styling.

But doing poorly? The Civic is selling like hotcakes in both the US and Canada. Top three in Canada, top five in the US... a country where "compact" cars like the Civic sell very poorly compared to the Camry, Accord and pick-ups. Granted, dealership incentives have been raised to move the cars, but considering it's more expensive than the competition to begin with, that just brings its price down to par.

The media may hate it, but the Civic is a hit. Because for customers, you're getting the great engine, cabin space and chassis from the FD Civic (with many improvements in chassis layout and interior space), along with a much more comfortable ride and seats. Won't impress typical Honda boy-racer fans, but for people moving down from an Accord or sideways from a Corolla, the Civic hits the spot.

Besides... if you want a Fast and Furious Civic... go buy a secondhand FD MT.

ah, i guess thats what i've read before. minor face lift.

my boss, currently drives an FD is actually contemplating on which to get. Civic FB 1.8s or Altis 1.6V. both are priced almost the same. the Altis has more toys, while the Civic is practical but the interior somewhat resembles the FD.

**niky** · July 17th, 2012 06:19 PM

The interior is a bit decontented compared to the FD, but the seats are much, much, much better and they've tweaked the interior layout for more space. Your boss should check it out in person and try the seats for himself. I feel they're better than the Corolla's, actually... though it's hard to argue with the practicality of the Corolla's 1.6 liter engine.

Originally Posted by ghosthunter

Basically a small Accord.

Basically.

**crazy_boy** · July 17th, 2012 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by niky

The interior is a bit decontented compared to the FD, but the seats are much, much, much better and they've tweaked the interior layout for more space. Your boss should check it out in person and try the seats for himself. I feel they're better than the Corolla's, actually... though it's hard to argue with the practicality of the Corolla's 1.6 liter engine.

Basically.

we already checked both cars this morning. since he's driving an FD already, the interior feel of the FB is.. err.. more or less the same with the FD hehe im not sure about the ride feel of the FB, but the Corolla is softer compared to FD.

and is it also safe to say that the 1.6V Corolla is basically a small Camry? hehe