Guys, Help Me With A Very Tough Decision.

[suysuy]

Nagkaroon kasi ng problema, We where about to drive home our Jazz 1.5V, but due to problems which i can't disclose right now, we canceled the deal.

Ok lemme explain first, I believe many of you here fellow tsikoters, know my problem about our problematic honda city 1.5L VTEC CVT (transmission problem). I told you we sold the car. yes we sold the car, we sold the car to our dealer (HCDI) because we gave up (regarding the transmission), the reason is, honda thailand will not let us claim warranty. so we sold the car for 400k+ (actually they bought it for 400k+ ignoring the defective transmission, since we are an influential family, and nahiya na rin ang owner ng HCDI). it serves as the downpayment for our supposed to be Honda Jazz 1.5V which is supposed to be given to my younger sister.

since im still a student, that honda city was my first car and my daily drive for 4 years+ for a total of almost 40,000kms. since we sold that car, my dad gave me his 2009 FD Honda Civic 1.8S.

Now, that the honda jazz was canceled, our honda city will also be back hehehe

That honda city has had its transmission replaced already, meaning, naka free rin kami sa gastos. nasa stock room lang ng dealer yung city for almost 3 months.

We have two options, trade it with a kia sorento 2.2R EX or we will not trade it but keep the car instead.

now my problem is, I want to go back with my Honda City for many reasons:

1. Fuel Economy (12km City, around 20+ Highway)
2. Cargo Space
3. Maneuverability ( I find the EPS more interesting)
4. 205/45/R16 Tires
5. Fun to Drive (7Speed)
6. Can sprint from 0-100 in just 8.5+ seconds! (CVT FTW)
7.. I missed that car so much lol
*Take note though: The transmission is brand new. I will get the car tomorrow, and will test drive it.
Also, naka upgrade na ang headlights, my sound system na etc.

For me, i would really like to go back to my old car

In my experience, The Honda Civic is just too much for me. And i dont like it wrapped with 225/40/R18 mas matagtag pa sa honda City! sad thing, the stock tires are no longer available, and whats worse, i get around 7.5km city driving and around 12km highway (davao butuan and butuan davao)
It also feels heavy (maybe because sa tires?) and the steering is heavy, but very precise though! mahirap tingnan ang side mirrors, para kasing malaki pero kokonti lang ang makikita mo, parang may blind spot

also, our FD has this weird noises (engine mounts/right suspension) and also kumakabig sa right.

what i like with the FD is it looks nice lalo na naka R18's, and its a class above the honda city.

Im am so torn between the two cars. I can also drive the cars of my parents occasionally but i need to choose my daily drive. As of now, im driving the FD for 3 months already, but still, i miss my old car, and due to the fact that is is more fuel efficient, im thinking of switching back with my former ride.


I do hope merong advice dito na walang bias hehe, I dont want to make the wrong choice eh lol.

Is it a good idea? or should i just stay with my current civic?

[aejhayl17]

since the city is 4 years old already, and i think you can afford a new ride, why not push through for the Jazz, its newer and less problematic(its new except if its a lemon).

[mda]

Keep the FD.

2009 unit means you can have most things fixed under warranty. If you drive that thing long or far enough, lalabas lahat ng sakit ng kotse such that mapapaayos mo na kaagad before the warranty lapses. Yung kabig, pa wheel alignment mo nalang. Have honda check everything under warranty.

If you hate the ride, get rid of the 18s. Find a nice set of OEM 17s (the honda modulo ones or the ones that came with the 2.0S-Ls) then get better tires.

Super gaan ang steering ng FD assuming you're using stock spec tires/rims.

17" rim suggestions
(credit is due to where i took the pics from)

Modulo Casa rims (known as HFP rims in the US):


2.0 S-L rims (EP3R rims)


Integra Type R rims


16" Enkei T1 2.0S/S-L Rims (2006-2007)

[suysuy]

thanks for the inputs. babalikan ko ito tomorrow. will convice my dad na mag 17's nalang.

natatakot kasi ako sa 18 baka ma bengkong. though naka survive na ako sa isang biyahe pero magandang daan naman rin kasi ang pa north dito sa amin, sa south ang grabeng lubak. i dont think it will survive there hehehe

[suysuy]

thanks for the inputs. babalikan ko ito tomorrow. will convice my dad na mag 17's nalang.

natatakot kasi ako sa 18 baka ma bengkong. though naka survive na ako sa isang biyahe pero magandang daan naman rin kasi ang pa north dito sa amin, sa south ang grabeng lubak. i dont think it will survive there hehehe

[glenn321]

What makes you happier nalang piliin mo sir

[CVT]

I'd grab the 09FD over the 06City bro, anytime... I hope your new wheels will work just right with your comfort zone....

I see though, that you're still a big fan of the CVT... I am with you (I am missing my Jazz CVT, too)... Driving that was a 'surreal' experience.....

Isn't the FD with EPS, too? (Our 09City has it. Less load on the engine.....)...

10K:dance1:

[tsupermario]

i think you are looking for something that's more fun to drive my vote goes to the jazz or ford focus

[Horsepower]

I'd trade the old banger for the Sorento R 2.2 EX

[speed unlimited]

You read most of the opinion of our fellow tsikot member .Think twice and follow what you really want. Goodluck.

[Type 100]

GD vs. FD for driving fun?

Drive them back to back before you cement your decision. If I were you I'd get your GD8 City back (yaaay new CVT!) and ditch the FD1. "Class" aside, they're just not in the same ballpark - the FD is at least 100 lb heavier than it should be, and so that blunts its responses (even worse with huge wheels).

18" wheels on an FD + our road conditions = bonkers. There is a reason why most lightweight wheels are truly "lightweight" only in the 15" and 16" diameters. The same model of lightweight wheel at 17" or 18" tends to suffer a huge jump in weight - bad for acceleration, bad for fuel economy, bad for refinement/NVH. And let's not get started with the cost of tires.

17s are the largest you should fit on an FD if you must.

CVT, the FD1 Civic 1.8s do not have electric power steering - I believe only the FD2 2.0 variants get it.

[suysuy]

i am leaning towards the FD guys.

na test drive ko na ulit yung City. pero parang laspag na. nafefeel ko na yung age ng car. natatanggal na yung tint lalo na sa rear, syempre marami narin gasgas hehe and some dents narin.

but the acceleration was just insane lol. and yes, im still a big fan of the CVT just like CVT (hehe pati ba naman username CVT?)

but i think its a wise decision to just trade in nalang that City to the 2.2R EX Sorento hehe.

[Starex_Gold]

Ang dami nyo nang oto bibili nanaman

Kaysarap ng problema nyo.

Kung ako, doon na ako sa FD. Mas bago, mas maporma, mas malaki, mas mabilis, mas.. lahat.

OR. Swap mo yung City sa Sorento 2.2 CRDi tapos yun nalang ang sa iyo.

[renzo_d10]

I'd be keeping the FD bro. The City is old already and as you have stated, it's condition isn't considered as top notch. And even though it's transmission is new, you cannot deny the fact that it was replaced already.

And since you find the FD's ride a bit harsh and you're aware of the bengkongs that might happen to you ( knock on wood ) while you're shoes are still 18's. I'd say, decrease the size to 17's or yet 16's.

If ever, will you avail the pre-selling of Kia ? If you will, forget it. But if you won't then trading your City to a, I suppose a Brand new sorento won't be a bad choice either.

So for me both choices -, keep the FD & change to 17's/16's or Trade the city with a sorento - won't be as bad as keeping your beloved City.

Hmmm ... if you are willing to drive a car with a manual transmission why not get a different City with a Manual Tranny slapped to it. Atleast you'll be having a somewhat similar car.

Your choice bro, goodluck

[Type 100]

Good luck with whatever you choose sir

[suysuy]

I'll keep the FD. Then we will trade the GD for a 2.2R EX. Yun na yung decision ko hehehe. But the City will always be missed haha. Time to move on. Mahirap talagang i let go ang first car, lalo na kapag ang dami niyo nang napuntahan

[BaRLeY]

I would have made the same decision that you have made Sir. Keep the FD and get the Sorento on the side.

[suysuy]

oo nga hehe pero maging dalawa na aming sorento haha!

[cjv_justice]

tingin ko tama naman yung decision mo suysuy. just go back to 16s or 17s on your wheels.

[timo07]

oo nga hehe pero maging dalawa na aming sorento haha!

Noticed you have 07 1.4L Rio in the list, what is the FC? You were particular with your CVT's excellent fuel consumption so I assume you monitor FC regularly.