2006 Honda City A/T - Jerking Engine :( Please help...

[mondymondy]

Hi Guys, I have a problem with my 2006 A/T Honda City..

These past few weeks, I'm experiencing jerking problems with my car usually when I'm at a full stop or backing up.. After reading threads here in tsikot, my suspicion was it could be the dreaded CVT issue.

So I went to Honda Kalookan to have my car diagnosed. They said that my control valve, and flywheel needs replacement. They quoted me 35k all in. I backed out because that's too much money that they're asking. I headed to another reputable shop (not CASA anymore) to have it diagnosed.

After the road test, the mechanic told me not to worry about my CVT because it's apparently not the culprit. He advised to have my throttle body cleaned first as it might solve the issue. I was charged 450 pesos for that.

A day after having my throttle body cleaned, the jerking worsened. It feels like my engine's gonna die on me.

Guys please help me cause I'm don't know what to do anymore.. Any inputs would be greatly appreciated..

[junn_815]

may position sensor ba don sa throttle body?

[niky]

Replace the IACV. If the jerking is worse after throttle body cleaning, then it's not amenable to cleaning anymore.

Hold off on the flywheel. At best, if the flywheel is really warped, you can have it resurfaced or rebalanced elsewhere. Honda won't do it for you, casa policy (for any manufacturer) is to replace flywheels once they're out of spec.

[mondymondy]

Replace the IACV. If the jerking is worse after throttle body cleaning, then it's not amenable to cleaning anymore.

Hold off on the flywheel. At best, if the flywheel is really warped, you can have it resurfaced or rebalanced elsewhere. Honda won't do it for you, casa policy (for any manufacturer) is to replace flywheels once they're out of spec.

As for the IACV, how much would that cost me sir? Hope you have an idea..

As for the flywheel, how will I know if it's warped or something? Can it be checked easily?

Is this not a CVT issue? I'm anxious that even if I spend money on replacing the IACV and having the flywheel resurfaced, the jerking won't dissappear.

[jick.cejoco]

check the obvious and basic first. have an assistant observe the engine/transaxle while you shift to reverse and forward with the brakes applied and the hood open. there is a possibility the north and south engine mount (insulators) are worn or cracked. the age of the car usually have these components fatigued and the rubber dry rotted

[niky]

You'll know it's the CVT if the shifts are very slow or if engine revs don't seem to match acceleration.

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Engine mounts would be felt as increased vibration at idle, mostly. If the engine feels like it's dying when coming to a stop or shifting into gear, it's most likely IACV.

[mondymondy]

You'll know it's the CVT if the shifts are very slow or if engine revs don't seem to match acceleration.

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Engine mounts would be felt as increased vibration at idle, mostly. If the engine feels like it's dying when coming to a stop or shifting into gear, it's most likely IACV.

Noted Sir Niky. Another scenario is when coming from a full stop. The car doesn't move immediately after releasing the brake pedal. There's a slight delay of about 4 seconds before it starts to move again. Before it moves, it sometimes jerk first. What do you think sir?

Also when cruising, the car decelerates fast once it reaches the 30km/h mark. It feels like someone's stepping on the brake pedals.

Please help me..

[mondymondy]

Up.. Please help.. I'm getting desperate..

[Arvin022274]

Noted Sir Niky. Another scenario is when coming from a full stop. The car doesn't move immediately after releasing the brake pedal. There's a slight delay of about 4 seconds before it starts to move again. Before it moves, it sometimes jerk first. What do you think sir?

Also when cruising, the car decelerates fast once it reaches the 30km/h mark. It feels like someone's stepping on the brake pedals.

Please help me..

Sir pa update naman ano naging solution po...sharing experience would definitely help us mga may problema sa CVT....

[patrick062087]

Sir pa update naman ano naging solution po...sharing experience would definitely help us mga may problema sa CVT....

update namn po if ano na po naging solution dito.. experiencing the same problem for my honda city 2004..

[Arch. JNP]

Noted Sir Niky. Another scenario is when coming from a full stop. The car doesn't move immediately after releasing the brake pedal. There's a slight delay of about 4 seconds before it starts to move again. Before it moves, it sometimes jerk first. What do you think sir?

Also when cruising, the car decelerates fast once it reaches the 30km/h mark. It feels like someone's stepping on the brake pedals.

Please help me..

Mga sir, may update po ba dito? Ask ko lang sana if related sa jerking problem yung deceleration problem? Flywheel din ba yan? im worried kasi everytime akala ko flat ako kasi ang bilis din mag decelerate. THANKS!

[patricksee]

first instinct of non casa mechanics is cleaning the throttle body or IACV. believe me, kahit ilang beses mo palinis or papalitan yan, di maaayos yung problem.

so far, i've read na yung flywheel nga yung culprit. there's a number of members here na naayos yung issue by replacing that. it costed them 18k. not sure about the control valve. try asking yung casa if they can replace the flywheel muna and see if it fixes the issue. and make sure na walang damaging effect pag yun lang ang palitan. baka kasi masisira lang ung flywheel eventually if hindi palitan na din ung control valve. you'll end up spending more.

as for my car, 2006 City 1.5 AT, minimal jerking/sliding clutch lang from full stop or backing up. Usually from full stop, nagddrop ng onti ung RPM, causing the car to shake a bit pero once may momentum na, ok na. Mas madalas pag reverse lalo na pag inclined yung road, talagang ramdam yung vibration then yung parang namamatay talaga yung makina. pero for now, i can live with it kasi hindi pa naman ganun kalala.

HTH!

[marktams86]

first instinct of non casa mechanics is cleaning the throttle body or IACV. believe me, kahit ilang beses mo palinis or papalitan yan, di maaayos yung problem.

so far, i've read na yung flywheel nga yung culprit. there's a number of members here na naayos yung issue by replacing that. it costed them 18k. not sure about the control valve. try asking yung casa if they can replace the flywheel muna and see if it fixes the issue. and make sure na walang damaging effect pag yun lang ang palitan. baka kasi masisira lang ung flywheel eventually if hindi palitan na din ung control valve. you'll end up spending more.

as for my car, 2006 City 1.5 AT, minimal jerking/sliding clutch lang from full stop or backing up. Usually from full stop, nagddrop ng onti ung RPM, causing the car to shake a bit pero once may momentum na, ok na. Mas madalas pag reverse lalo na pag inclined yung road, talagang ramdam yung vibration then yung parang namamatay talaga yung makina. pero for now, i can live with it kasi hindi pa naman ganun kalala.

HTH!

yup... had that same exact experience... changed flywheel last october... 18 thou sa honda magallanes...yun daw talaga sakit nang honda cvt, better change it asap daw before it could do more damage sa transmission...

[marktams86]

sir patricksee, kamusta na pala yung problem sa tsikot mo?

[patricksee]

sir patricksee, kamusta na pala yung problem sa tsikot mo?

sa ngayon kasi hindi na siya pronounced so hinahayaan ko lang siya. it gets worse everytime na idisconnect yung battery, every palit ng oil or CVTF. i use Honda LEV and Honda CVTF for my oils pero same issue. siguro ni-rerelearn ng engine everytime nagpapalit? not sure.

as of now pre, wala pa naman talaga problems para magprompt sakin na palitan na agad.

yung sayo ba malala na nung pinapapalitan mo?

[marktams86]

yung sa akin di naman malala talaga, pero noticeable... pero nung time na yun company car pa kasi siya so walang problema sa gastos...sunod lang nang sunod sa reco nang casa...

[Arvin022274]

first instinct of non casa mechanics is cleaning the throttle body or IACV. believe me, kahit ilang beses mo palinis or papalitan yan, di maaayos yung problem.

so far, i've read na yung flywheel nga yung culprit. there's a number of members here na naayos yung issue by replacing that. it costed them 18k. not sure about the control valve. try asking yung casa if they can replace the flywheel muna and see if it fixes the issue. and make sure na walang damaging effect pag yun lang ang palitan. baka kasi masisira lang ung flywheel eventually if hindi palitan na din ung control valve. you'll end up spending more.

as for my car, 2006 City 1.5 AT, minimal jerking/sliding clutch lang from full stop or backing up. Usually from full stop, nagddrop ng onti ung RPM, causing the car to shake a bit pero once may momentum na, ok na. Mas madalas pag reverse lalo na pag inclined yung road, talagang ramdam yung vibration then yung parang namamatay talaga yung makina. pero for now, i can live with it kasi hindi pa naman ganun kalala.

HTH!

Ano na naging solution d2 sir?

[dandang]

Ano na mileage ng city niyo? Yung 06 city 1.5a/t nasa 40k na. Siguro malapit na rin lumabas ang sakit ng cvt sa akin. Pero ngayon normal naman. Bilib nga ako sa honda wala pa major breakdown. Quality talaga. Yung grand starex ko 33k pa lang dami na issues.

[marktams86]

Ano na mileage ng city niyo? Yung 06 city 1.5a/t nasa 40k na. Siguro malapit na rin lumabas ang sakit ng cvt sa akin. Pero ngayon normal naman. Bilib nga ako sa honda wala pa major breakdown. Quality talaga. Yung grand starex ko 33k pa lang dami na issues.

131K na sir... ok na ok pa rin naman... wala problema sa takbo at consumo.. i could get around 11-12km/l.. yung Full tank ko umaabot nang 10 days.. Paranaque-BGC-Pasig with slight traffic vice versa byahe ko mon-friday...

[page7fordoddie]

Reading this thread. if in case the flywheel is damaged, is it really possible to have it resurfaced? like sa Manual tranny na flywheel?

Please verify this. if not in Casas, how much ang CVT flywheel if Banawe price?

Like Mr. Patricksee's car, yung sa'kin no big push pa naman to have it repaired kasi. Vibrates a bit from N to D pero sobrang bihira lang.