Civic horsepower

[surewin]

what is the rated horsepower of a 99-2000 Vti and Lxi?
thanks!

[BlueBimmer]

vti is 125bhp afaik.

[airshaq20]

I think the Phil version Civic hp rating is over rated. The USDM 2005 Civic 1.7L is 115 hp and the Vtec 1.7L is 127hp. I think the Phil version Civic is 1590cc so its 1.6L - my estimate is, its only about 110 or 108hp.

Edit: with the new SAE standard in place - it should be between 100 to 105 at the flywheel and prolly about 80 to 90hp at the wheels.

[niky]

LXi should be around 100 or less... 1.5 yan, di ba?

2000 VTi is around 115-116 hp. Can't be anymore than that because we once did highway testing of the 2000 VTi against a 2000 Nissan Exalta (both AT) and both topped out around 180km/h with similar acceleration. Medyo may lamang nga dapat siya ng konti, PERO nag-iisa siya sa kotse at 2 kami sa Nissan.

The new VTi-S is supposedly 127hp, but maybe it's around 120-125 anyway. Acceleration of the 1.7 is very very good.

[baludoy]

how about the 1996 vtec?

[ian_rex]

same engine lang ang 96-2000 Civic. wheel horsepower ba ang pinag-uusapan dito? kasi sabi sa brochure, 127hp*6400rpm ang 1.6L VTi SOHC VTEC, while 106hp*6400rpm naman for 1.5L SOHC Lxi

[baludoy]

ot lang:what's the difference between hp and bhp? tsaka what does oem mean?

[ian_rex]

ot lang:what's the difference between hp and bhp? tsaka what does oem mean?

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from wikipedia.com: Brake horsepower (bhp)

Brake horsepower (bhp) is the measure of horsepower at maximum engine output, minus power lost from heat, friction, expansion of the engine, etc. This is commonly called net horsepower. Since each measuring system requires different conditions, there can be no correct conversion factor for the systems. An engine would have to be retested to obtain a rating in another system.

hp (SAE)

In the United States the term "bhp" fell into disuse after the American Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) recommended manufacturers use hp (SAE) to indicate the net power of the engine, given that particular car's complete engine installation. It measures engine power at the flywheel, not counting drivetrain losses.

Starting in 1971 automakers began to quote power in terms of SAE net horsepower (as defined by standard J1349). This reflected the rated power of the engine in as-installed trim, with all accessories and standard intake and exhaust systems. By 1972 U.S. carmakers quoted power exclusively in SAE net hp. The change was meant to 'deflate' power ratings to assuage the auto insurance industry and environmental and safety lobbies, as well as to obfuscate the power losses caused by emissions-control equipment.

SAE net ratings, while more accurate than gross ratings, still represent the engine's power at the flywheel. Contrary to some reports, it does not measure power at the drive wheels.

Because SAE gross ratings were applied liberally, at best, there is no precise conversion from gross to net. Comparison of gross and net ratings for unchanged engines show a variance of anywhere from 40 to 150 horsepower. The Chrysler 426 Hemi, for example, in 1971 carried a 425 hp gross rating (often considered to be underrated) and a net rating of 375 hp.

i always wondered why LXi's and ESi's are favored in the local production class races but never VTi's. anyone knowledgeable care to explain? hehe.

because it is much cheaper to get those than the VTi. lighter too.

2000 VTi is around 115-116 hp. Can't be anymore than that because we once did highway testing of the 2000 VTi against a 2000 Nissan Exalta (both AT) and both topped out around 180km/h with similar acceleration. Medyo may lamang nga dapat siya ng konti, PERO nag-iisa siya sa kotse at 2 kami sa Nissan.

this could because of the accessible torque the exalta. medyo sloppy kasi ang AT ng honda.

so tama pala 125? o hindi?

more or less. di nga lang sinabi sa brochure kung ito yung ihp(indicated horsepower) or eto yung wheel horsepower.

see more on horsepower: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower

[BlueBimmer]

so tama pala 125? o hindi?

[ssaloon]

OEM = original equipment manufacturer

[al_motor]

i always wondered why LXi's and ESi's are favored in the local production class races but never VTi's. anyone knowledgeable care to explain? hehe.

[squala]

I think the Phil version Civic hp rating is over rated. The USDM 2005 Civic 1.7L is 115 hp and the Vtec 1.7L is 127hp. I think the Phil version Civic is 1590cc so its 1.6L - my estimate is, its only about 110 or 108hp.

Edit: with the new SAE standard in place - it should be between 100 to 105 at the flywheel and prolly about 80 to 90hp at the wheels.

There's still something fishy about the current VTi/VTi-S. Other countries like Singapore have a 1.6 with 110 hp and a 1.7 with 127 hp, but we have a 1.6 with 130 hp. Go figure.

i always wondered why LXi's and ESi's are favored in the local production class races but never VTi's. anyone knowledgeable care to explain? hehe.

There's this rule about VTi's having to carry a weight ballast (not sure how heavy). They say the VTEC engine has an unfair advantage compared to the non-VTECs.

[Datagh0ul]

How about 97 LXi?

[dr. d]

How about 97 LXi?

as an aside, this has always been my "must-have" daily driver,
but fate and circumstance have conspired against my acquisition plans...

[Bravoexo]

heavy?

[niky]

Wheel horsepower is never quoted by the manufacturer. It changes based on accessories fitted, wheel diameter and weight, and other factors. Manufacturers ALWAYS quote bhp, but not always to the same standards. Which goes some way to explaining the local Altis 1.8's ridiculous 140hp rating (it is actually 126).

[baludoy]

thanks for the replies

ito pa isa: what's jdm? brand ba yun?

[Bogeyman]

ito pa isa: what's jdm? brand ba yun?

From wikipedia:

The Japan domestic market (JDM) is a term used to describe Japan's market for purchasing things, chiefly automobiles. A similar term, United States domestic market (USDM) is used to differentiate US-only products. Some people interpret "M" as model.

JDM cars may or may not share the same names, features, specifications and option parts as their overseas versions, but they technically refer to the same car. Examples of this are the JDM Mazda Axela (known locally as the Mazda3), the JDM Suzuki Escudo (known locally as the Suzuki Vitara) and the JDM Honda Fit (known locally as the Honda Jazz).

[baludoy]

ah ok.finally nalaman ko na din iyong meaning ng mga abbreviations na yan

thanks

[BoEinG_747]

ah ok.finally nalaman ko na din iyong meaning ng mga abbreviations na yan

thanks

ganon na din ang EUDM at PHDM