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    Hi tsikot it's my first post here.

    I just want to hear your opinions regarding with my plan of changing my engine into d15b vtec. My current ride is a 92 civic hatchback with ph12 engine and i already put some money on it.

    My Question:

    1. Its better to sell my current car and buy a hatch equipped wiith d15? (considering it's mileage).
    2. or change engine which cost around 65k and low mileage from japan?

    hope i did right post in this section.

    Thank you.

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    Change engine nalang sir. Pero dapat fresh surplus.
    Kasi pag change car, di mo alam history nung car.
    At least pag change engine, alam mo mismo kasi ikaw bumuo.
    Keep your old engine or sell it whole or part out para makatipid ka pdg:beer::beer:

    Peace out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Dominguez View Post
    Hi tsikot it's my first post here.

    I just want to hear your opinions regarding with my plan of changing my engine into d15b vtec. My current ride is a 92 civic hatchback with ph12 engine and i already put some money on it.

    My Question:

    1. Its better to sell my current car and buy a hatch equipped wiith d15? (considering it's mileage).
    2. or change engine which cost around 65k and low mileage from japan?

    hope i did right post in this section.

    Thank you.
    Pag nagpalit kang makina, you might want to replace the tranny to maximize your new engine's potential. Just my 0.02 worth.

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    how did you know that the engine you are getting is a low mileage engine from japan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldog View Post
    how did you know that the engine you are getting is a low mileage engine from japan?
    maybe the seller would inform me before tear down of the car.

    any reputable shops that you can recommend? kasi ipa ship ko pa sa bacolod city so di ko makilatis ng mabuti yung engine before ipadala.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by LNopal View Post
    Pag nagpalit kang makina, you might want to replace the tranny to maximize your new engine's potential. Just my 0.02 worth.
    i need more info on this. other forum suggest ph12 tranny daw mas maganda pair sa d15b sa quarter mile? how true is this info.

    Thanks

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    change engine if your keeping the car for sentimental value. upgrade to a sir body civic if daily driven.

    are you into racing? drag or track? yes ph12 tranny will give you better time quarter mile but everyday car, mapipikon ka kasi short gear ratio. If your plan is for track day, ok d15 but if your planning for a better base line engine, get a b16a.

    initial d sa evangelist makati lang alam ko that has good surplus engines. better ship the car to Manila and get the upgrade here than ship without test to bacolod. wala warranty yan Lalo na kung hindi sila magkakabit.

    hth

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    Quote Originally Posted by [archie] View Post
    change engine if your keeping the car for sentimental value. upgrade to a sir body civic if daily driven.

    are you into racing? drag or track? yes ph12 tranny will give you better time quarter mile but everyday car, mapipikon ka kasi short gear ratio. If your plan is for track day, ok d15 but if your planning for a better base line engine, get a b16a.

    initial d sa evangelist makati lang alam ko that has good surplus engines. better ship the car to Manila and get the upgrade here than ship without test to bacolod. wala warranty yan Lalo na kung hindi sila magkakabit.

    hth
    Plan ko kasi na build pang quarter mile na class D at pang week end car ko lang to. maganda yung b16a kaso medyo mahal kung b series b18 nalang .

    Baka too expensive yung trip pa manila compare ship engine.


    One more thing Nag Change Engine ba ang Honda casa?

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    yep mahal nga b series makina. d15 and ph12 for play time is good in my opinion. yun nga lang isang araw baka mabagalan ka na d15.hehe

    mas expensive kung papaship oto pero at least makikitang umandar muna. baka maloko kasi. but it's your risk. I don't know if gumagawa ng change engine casa pero kung oo, malamang sobrsng mahal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [archie] View Post
    yep mahal nga b series makina. d15 and ph12 for play time is good in my opinion. yun nga lang isang araw baka mabagalan ka na d15.hehe

    mas expensive kung papaship oto pero at least makikitang umandar muna. baka maloko kasi. but it's your risk. I don't know if gumagawa ng change engine casa pero kung oo, malamang sobrsng mahal.
    ask ko lang sir kung na try mu na ba e drive yung d15b? maakas ba talaga ang hatak?

    na kukulangan lang ksi ako sa ph12 compare sa 4afe engine toyota corolla ng brother ko na ganda humatak parang di na uubusan nang lakas.

    thanks

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    If you're planning to keep the car forever, go ahead and change the engine. BUT if you're planning to sell it after a few years, then I suggest don't. A car which has undergone the process of engine swapping is ridiculously hard to sell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beni23 View Post
    If you're planning to keep the car forever, go ahead and change the engine. BUT if you're planning to sell it after a few years, then I suggest don't. A car which has undergone the process of engine swapping is ridiculously hard to sell.
    Na gagandahan lang talaga kasi ako sa EG sir hehe. probably I'm not selling this anymore project car ko na to

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    yeah mahirap benta Lalo na sa mga gusto lang daily driven. unless selling it to a person that understands the upgrade pero bihira yung ganon.

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    Order ka na lang overseas kung ipapaship mo din from manila to bacolod yung engine.

    Experience ko ordering overseas.
    Naka order na ako overseas ng engine and before we just use a balikbayan box walang problem nung dumating yung engine door to door pa but now we wanted to make sure and the engine on a balikbayan box is not allowed any more we just put it on a pallet(new rule na ng shipping company ata ito) door to door din ito. Medyo matagal lang at tiyaga lang sa paghanap sa internet ng used engines at shipper. Meron nga ako nakita 20 engines pwede sila magship at door to door pa sumobra na ata ako sa paghahanap nito.ahahaha. Sa Japan naman mismo bidding kaya umayaw ako. Mahal man ang shipment at engine overseas worth it pa din at basta may papers yung engine na bibilhan mo.

    Pagship ng engine overseas ito advice ko

    1. Find a reputable used engines store
    2. Find a shipper that can ship an engine using a pallet(not FEDEX,LBC,DHL,UPS some a little bit cheaper shipping companies.This is what I call as the not so known shipping company. If you have friends overseas they know those other cheaper shipping company.)
    3. Ask everything you need to know. They won't tell you unless you ask them because if you don't it will be your fault.
    4. Ask friends overseas who can help you transact with them.
    5. If you want to order an engine from manila then ship it to bacolod no choice but to use those big time shipping companies like LBC,DHL,etc.Wala akong alam na ibang shipping company dito na pwede magship locally.

    Tsaka ayoko na sa mga surplus dito hindi mo masasabi kung ok pa yung engine or hindi at kung matagal na naka stock sa kanila.
    Basta surplus lalo na dito expect madami kang papalitan like clutch,flywheel,pistons, atbp dahil mahirap na masabi ang condition.Friends ko na rin nagsabi hindi na safe dito bumili kaya natakot na rin ako.
    Kung d15b kukunin mo pwede franken yan d16 ata ilalim na ginagawa dun with ph12 transmission.Sa b18 at b20 ganun din b16head ginagawa.
    Sarap lang kasi magorder overseas.hehe.
    Sorry kung mahaba.
    Last edited by gearspeed; July 23rd, 2013 at 04:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gearspeed View Post
    Order ka na lang overseas kung ipapaship mo din from manila to bacolod yung engine.

    Experience ko ordering overseas.
    Naka order na ako overseas ng engine and before we just use a balikbayan box walang problem nung dumating yung engine door to door pa but now we wanted to make sure and the engine on a balikbayan box is not allowed any more we just put it on a pallet(new rule na ng shipping company ata ito) door to door din ito. Medyo matagal lang at tiyaga lang sa paghanap sa internet ng used engines at shipper. Meron nga ako nakita 20 engines pwede sila magship at door to door pa sumobra na ata ako sa paghahanap nito.ahahaha. Sa Japan naman mismo bidding kaya umayaw ako. Mahal man ang shipment at engine overseas worth it pa din at basta may papers yung engine na bibilhan mo.

    Pagship ng engine overseas ito advice ko

    1. Find a reputable used engines store
    2. Find a shipper that can ship an engine using a pallet(not FEDEX,LBC,DHL,UPS some a little bit cheaper shipping companies.This is what I call as the not so known shipping company. If you have friends overseas they know those other cheaper shipping company.)
    3. Ask everything you need to know. They won't tell you unless you ask them because if you don't it will be your fault.
    4. Ask friends overseas who can help you transact with them.
    5. If you want to order an engine from manila then ship it to bacolod no choice but to use those big time shipping companies like LBC,DHL,etc.Wala akong alam na ibang shipping company dito na pwede magship locally.

    Tsaka ayoko na sa mga surplus dito hindi mo masasabi kung ok pa yung engine or hindi at kung matagal na naka stock sa kanila.
    Basta surplus lalo na dito expect madami kang papalitan like clutch,flywheel,pistons, atbp dahil mahirap na masabi ang condition.Friends ko na rin nagsabi hindi na safe dito bumili kaya natakot na rin ako.
    Kung d15b kukunin mo pwede franken yan d16 ata ilalim na ginagawa dun with ph12 transmission.Sa b18 at b20 ganun din b16head ginagawa.
    Sarap lang kasi magorder overseas.hehe.
    Sorry kung mahaba.
    katakot mag order overseas kapag wala kang friend na actual na mag ship Actually may nakita na akong store sa manila na reputable naman hehe sabi daw via sea yung shipping via 2go daw. 3k-5k shipping fee.

    Mga sir. D15b vtec EG ba ang mas maganda na d15b eto yung 130 hp right??

    and how about sa papers magkano kaya estimate na expense nito?

    Thanks.

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    malayo naman ph12 sa 4afe. talagang talo ph12 dun. yep natry ko na d15, ok naman kaso nakakabitin yung power. sa b series ka na, sigurado sibak 4afe dun. hehe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [archie] View Post
    malayo naman ph12 sa 4afe. talagang talo ph12 dun. yep natry ko na d15, ok naman kaso nakakabitin yung power. sa b series ka na, sigurado sibak 4afe dun. hehe.
    sige sir hehe. By the way (off topic) anu ma recommend mu na dohc na toyota yung mura na car worth 250k?

    salamat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Dominguez View Post
    sige sir hehe. By the way (off topic) anu ma recommend mu na dohc na toyota yung mura na car worth 250k?

    salamat.
    Corollas with 4ages either 16 or 20 valves. 4afe. 5afe. 4efe. 4efte. 7afe.
    Coronas with 3sfe or 3sge. 3sgte.

    Peace out!

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    meron ako nakita dati small body corolla with 3s-fe. I think that was sold for around 250k. pm me if your really interested, I think I can find another one with the same setup or at least 2.0 dohc.

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    Mga ser im in the same dilemma.
    Current car 99 civic lxi automatic tranny.

    Planning to try out the underrated D15b 3stage with Cvt/multimatic, yung may Econo, Normal and Sport mode. Matipid daw po ito.

    Just wanna know kung gagana sya sa local ek natin?

    60k sya sa Initial D. Comes with D15b+CVT tranny+ecu+harness+installation.

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