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    Quote Originally Posted by albanocr View Post
    Casa aircon/cabin Filter is definitely more expensive! Just note that there are more FILTER FINS as compared to the replacement. Even the original engine air filter has more fins. In other words, they are more efficient in collecting dusts.
    Mga sir newbie 2007 honda a/t cvt user. Is it true pag ngdisconnect ng car bat need sya irecalibrate? Kakuha lang kse pagawaan un city insurance claim napansin ko ng hesitate na madalas when accelarating.. baka need na din daw palit cvt oil.. may nabilan ba sa labas ng honda cvt oil? rizal area.. salamat sa sasagot inadvance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ;2856684
    Casa aircon/cabin Filter is definitely more expensive! Just note that there are more FILTER FINS as compared to the replacement. Even the original engine air filter has more fins. In other words, they are more efficient in collecting dusts.
    increasing the number of fins does not increase the efficiency of collecting dusts.
    it merely increases the effective surface area, resulting in more air passing thru per unit time.
    mas malakas ang buga ng hangin ng aircon, kapag maraming accordion sa filter.

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    So X1R is bad for the engine? Nilagyan ng Honda car ko last Saturday nito. Inexplain ng mechanic para saan yun. So in short, nagpauto ako? Hehe. I'll just have another oil change sa December siguro

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    The problem is the dealers not only allow it, they endorse it. One SA when I asked if pwede ba skip yung snake oil, sabi nya "recommended" daw yun.

    Nung pinilit ko na huwag na lang, sinimangutan ako

    Quote Originally Posted by marky2115 View Post
    So X1R is bad for the engine? Nilagyan ng Honda car ko last Saturday nito. Inexplain ng mechanic para saan yun. So in short, nagpauto ako? Hehe. I'll just have another oil change sa December siguro

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    kahit anong additives you should say no. the thing is those additives have an oil base which no one knows if it is compatible with the engine oil. kahit yung pertua oil di dapat.

    btw i added pertua a long time ago to an old ride of mine. mas lalo lang bumaba ang fuel mileage. kala ko maganda kasi panay ang praises ng mgantao dito sa tsikot. so kahit ano pang claims ng mga oil additives na yan di na ako naniniwala ngayon. ngayon ko lang nasabi since i did not want to be the naysayer on something many people here swore to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marky2115 View Post
    So X1R is bad for the engine? Nilagyan ng Honda car ko last Saturday nito. Inexplain ng mechanic para saan yun. So in short, nagpauto ako? Hehe. I'll just have another oil change sa December siguro
    Saan honda yan?


    Quote Originally Posted by papi smith View Post
    The problem is the dealers not only allow it, they endorse it. One SA when I asked if pwede ba skip yung snake oil, sabi nya "recommended" daw yun.

    Nung pinilit ko na huwag na lang, sinimangutan ako

    Yung sumimangot sayo yung sa honda spa tandang sora ba yan yung service advisor na luwa ang mata?

    Ok na sana ito honda spa kasi pwede mo lapitan habang ginagawa kotse tapos ngayon bigla mandudugas sa maintenance. Kung hindi mabusisi eh nadale na ng X1R.....

    Ang layo pa naman ng tandang sora. Itry ko nga sa greenhills branch nakausap ko doon eh at my discretion daw if gusto ko daw x1r. Magpapaalam daw muna......

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    ^Sa Honda SPA. Si Abet SA ko mismo. Di niya nabanggit sakin na may X1R. Nakita ko nalang nakalagay sa tool storage katabi ng car ko yung X1R kasama nung engine oil. Since di ako familiar dun and inexplain naman sakin ng mechanic, hinayaan ko nalang. Balak ko naman magpa oil change ulit sa December so matanggal sana kahit kalahati nun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marky2115 View Post
    ^Sa Honda SPA. Si Abet SA ko mismo. Di niya nabanggit sakin na may X1R. Nakita ko nalang nakalagay sa tool storage katabi ng car ko yung X1R kasama nung engine oil. Since di ako familiar dun and inexplain naman sakin ng mechanic, hinayaan ko nalang. Balak ko naman magpa oil change ulit sa December so matanggal sana kahit kalahati nun.

    Si abet yan yung mahilig magoverprice ng service...... 10w30 sabi ko engine oil pero ang pinipilit yung 0w20.. Tapos bigla nagdiskusyon na kesyo malamig na daw ngayon. Sabi ko tag-ulan ngayon at hindi malamig..... Tapos bigla bumanat ng lubrincants.....sabi ko ano yan.... lubricants daw..... Nagtaka ako may engine oil na may lubricants pa......Tinanong ko ano klase lubricants yan.... Bumanat ng technical.... Hindi ko magets so sinabihan ko kung ano lang gusto ko yun lang gagawin..... Nalaman ko bandang huli X1R pala !!!! Kaya pala puro general term binabanggit sa akin..

    Tapos yung service adivsor na luwa ang mata yan yun mahilig sumimangot pag hindi 5w40 or 0w20 iavail mo..... eh lagi ako 10w30.....

    Parang ang matino s.a lang jan yung matangkad na kalbo......

    tragis na honda ito...gumagamit na ng non-honda fluids....

    Kaya sa next oil change mo busisiin mo muna sa list kung ano gagawin.

    Dinadayo ko pa ito honda spa.....next time nga itry ko sa greenhills halos katabi ko lang.

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    How about itong mga items na ito?
    1. Silicon Mould - Php 375
    2. Injector Cleaner - Php 770
    3. Fuel Drier - Php 950

    Kailangan ba itong mga ito? This is for 20K PMS sa Altis.

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    sa Honda Shaw, ok naman parati ko sinasabi kung ano lang nakasulat sa Service Manual yun lang ang gagawin..

    sila nagpalabas nito.. so sabi ko parati ganyan lang dapat ang babayaran ko..



    so far so good naman..

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    ^
    Taga pa din price.....ayala group yan may horror story yung alabang branch nila. Nakaenclosed parenthesis - semi-synthetic lang gagamitin. Tapos nakainclude pa din aircon filter na isa yan nagpapa overprice.

    Mas maganda irequest nyo nakabreakdown each price para mas transparent... Pwede pa bumaba yung listed price....

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    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    Si abet yan yung mahilig magoverprice ng service...... 10w30 sabi ko engine oil pero ang pinipilit yung 0w20.. Tapos bigla nagdiskusyon na kesyo malamig na daw ngayon. Sabi ko tag-ulan ngayon at hindi malamig..... Tapos bigla bumanat ng lubrincants.....sabi ko ano yan.... lubricants daw..... Nagtaka ako may engine oil na may lubricants pa......Tinanong ko ano klase lubricants yan.... Bumanat ng technical.... Hindi ko magets so sinabihan ko kung ano lang gusto ko yun lang gagawin..... Nalaman ko bandang huli X1R pala !!!! Kaya pala puro general term binabanggit sa akin..

    Tapos yung service adivsor na luwa ang mata yan yun mahilig sumimangot pag hindi 5w40 or 0w20 iavail mo..... eh lagi ako 10w30.....

    Parang ang matino s.a lang jan yung matangkad na kalbo......

    tragis na honda ito...gumagamit na ng non-honda fluids....

    Kaya sa next oil change mo busisiin mo muna sa list kung ano gagawin.

    Dinadayo ko pa ito honda spa.....next time nga itry ko sa greenhills halos katabi ko lang.
    Is abet and obet the same guy ... si Obet kalbo kasi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoomzoom View Post
    Is abet and obet the same guy ... si Obet kalbo kasi.
    Abet is Gilbert, 3 lang ata SA sa Honda SPA Abet, Obet and Leo. Dun ako kay Leo napupunta lately, maayos naman kausap.

    About X1R, magkano kaya binayad nila sa Honda? Both Ayala and Yuchengco are offering it during PMS eh.

    Accommodating sila sa Honda Spa, puro suggestions pero ikaw pa din naman mag decide. Last PMS ko they asked if gusto ko ipa rustproof / undercoat, need na daw talaga hehe still I declined.




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    Quote Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow View Post
    Abet is Gilbert, 3 lang ata SA sa Honda SPA Abet, Obet and Leo. Dun ako kay Leo napupunta lately, maayos naman kausap.
    Got it ... si abet yung ayaw ni kagalingan, si leo yung luwa ang mata, at si obet yung kalbong matangkad na sinasabi niya ... tama na ba?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    Si abet yan yung mahilig magoverprice ng service...... 10w30 sabi ko engine oil pero ang pinipilit yung 0w20.. Tapos bigla nagdiskusyon na kesyo malamig na daw ngayon. Sabi ko tag-ulan ngayon at hindi malamig..... Tapos bigla bumanat ng lubrincants.....sabi ko ano yan.... lubricants daw..... Nagtaka ako may engine oil na may lubricants pa......Tinanong ko ano klase lubricants yan.... Bumanat ng technical.... Hindi ko magets so sinabihan ko kung ano lang gusto ko yun lang gagawin..... Nalaman ko bandang huli X1R pala !!!! Kaya pala puro general term binabanggit sa akin..

    Tapos yung service adivsor na luwa ang mata yan yun mahilig sumimangot pag hindi 5w40 or 0w20 iavail mo..... eh lagi ako 10w30.....

    Parang ang matino s.a lang jan yung matangkad na kalbo......

    tragis na honda ito...gumagamit na ng non-honda fluids....

    Kaya sa next oil change mo busisiin mo muna sa list kung ano gagawin.

    Dinadayo ko pa ito honda spa.....next time nga itry ko sa greenhills halos katabi ko lang.
    sa petron gas station na lang po tayo.
    madali silang kausapin doon.
    "no long waiting" pa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    sa petron gas station na lang po tayo.
    madali silang kausapin doon.
    "no long waiting" pa.
    Okay naman sa gas stations. The problem is yung fluids na iba nila ay di pasok sa requirements ng ibang bagong cars ngayon. Yung iba din naman kasi di alam kunh saan pwede mag source

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaggerx3 View Post
    Okay naman sa gas stations. The problem is yung fluids na iba nila ay di pasok sa requirements ng ibang bagong cars ngayon. Yung iba din naman kasi di alam kunh saan pwede mag source

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    the fluid specs are on the container, for all to see, naman. the place where i go to, gets the fluids from clearly-marked containers from the shelf, not from some mysterious large drum with skull and crossbones on the exterior...
    kaunting interes... kaunting research...
    it has always been my belief, that if car owner knows his stuff, he can safely have his pms done outside the casa.
    but if car owner does not know his stuff, casa is the safer choice for him, albeit more expensive...
    heh heh.

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    Yang treatment treatment na yan, feel ko nga di rin ilalagay sayo yan pag may available empty bottle pa sila e. Kasi nga unnecessary sya e. So pano mo malaman kung nilagay nga? Easy money

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    Never pa naman ako nagkipag argue sa casa about PMS. Sinasabi ko lang yun ayaw ko pagasa hinde naman nila na pinipilit.

    Fuel filter hinde ko nga pinapalitan sa recommended schedule nila dahil I feel masyadong mabilis na palitan agad. Ok lang naman sa kanila.

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    Last edited by shadow; August 3rd, 2017 at 11:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    kung mapapa preventive maintenance kayo sa casa ito ang example na pwede nyo irefuse.

    example

    aircon filter

    casa = 2,300 ( basic made in thailand..)

    banawe = 400 to 600 (replacement )

    See the big difference.

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    Isa pa dapat iwasan yung "lubricants" daw ilalagay sa makina.

    sisingilin ka ng 1,900 for that anonymous lubricants.... hindi maexplain para saan yan.....

    Ang kailangan lang sa makina eh engine oil......

    Wag magpabola.... Ask for the breakdown first and just refuse sa mga unnecessary....


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    Also refuse the flushing fluid...... another gimmick ng casa....
    ako din nag re-refuse ng mga sa tingin ko di naman need. twice a year nga lang ang maintenance, pero grabehan naman sa presyo...

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