All New 2016 Civic

[sean-archer]

Hi guys, medyo pahirapan dito sa Central Luzon (Pampanga, Bulacan, Tarlac) yung availability ng units, im eyeing for a Civic 1.8E Modern Steel. Alanganin pa daw if magkaroon this December. Would you know other dealers in Metro Manila or somewhere in south na baka mas mabilis availability ng unit?

[makki08]

Hinde ba talaga pwede lumabas ng bahay kapag wala pang OR from the LTO? Though meron nang conduction sticker yung sasakyan.

Thanks!

[jut703]

Hi,

Planning to buy Civic 1.8E this December. Was decided 100% on the Civic until I saw James Deakin’s post on his new Jetta 2.0.

Anyone here who has done a comparo of coth cars? Or who have experience (test) driving both?

Prefers civic because of the looks. But the diesel engine and 15k km PMS schedule on the Jetta are hard to ignore. And German pa pla.

Thanks!

Here's my take on that:

Mazda 3 Skyactive R vs Civic 1.8E

If you're so concerned with fuel consumption, Egan's suggestion of the VW Jetta is a solid choice. It will easily beat both the Civic and Mazda 3 when it comes to efficiency.

The Civic/Mazda 3 does 8 km/L in city driving, while the VW will probably do 9 km/L. Coupled with the cheaper cost of diesel, you will save close to P2,000 a month for fuel.

However, I'm sure you're on the fence with the Jetta just because it's a VW. Being a diesel and being a German car, PMS will definitely be higher than the Civic and moreso the Mazda (free maintenance for 3 yrs), but remember that it has a 15,000 km maintenance interval so you have fewer visits.

Net, maintenance cost shouldn't be a deal breaker and in the long run you will still save on running costs due to the cheaper fuel.

A bigger concern would be long-term parts availability. While personally I don't think premature DPF failure is a big issue in itself, there is still a general difficulty in finding parts for low volume cars. In this aspect, the Jetta is at a disadvantage to the Mazda and Civic. And even between the 3 and Civic, parts are still easier to find for the car that sells more, in this case the Civic.

I have a 13 year old Mazda 3 and parts are a hassle to find compared to my Altis before, not to mention more expensive. Worse, shops in Banawe that you thought were respectable were actually selling fake parts! (I'm looking at you, Mazford!)

I was also considering the Jetta before but went with the Civic simply because it's a simpler car to own for long-term use and because the high tech interior and eyecatching exterior really called to me. If you're willing to take the risk with a VW, you will be rewarded with great efficiency and power, good handling, lots of features, and German engineering all for a very fair price.

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[GLSTrend]

Here's my take on that:

Mazda 3 Skyactive R vs Civic 1.8E



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Before I bought a Civic, I had the same dilemma as yours. My boss has a Jetta and was convincing me to get one then. The car has all the functionalities you would need for a daily driver, plus it is very economical in terms of diesel consumption. And the once-a-year visit to the dealership is very tempting. However, what made me choose the Civic is the feeling I get whenever I'm in the driver's cockpit. It's just different with the Civic! The Jetta is somewhat laid back for me and the overall styling is

Thanks for the inputs!

Went to both VW and Honda this morning, and discovered the ff minor points on the 2:

Civic 1.8E
1. Noticed that the welds on the door are easily seen. Maybe because the car on display was silver(??)
2. Agree that thereÂ’s a different feel inside the cockpit. The modern exterior reverberates to its interior. Modern layout of the center console, instrument cluster etc.
3. Civic feels roomier than the Jetta.
4. The urethane steering wheel is nice to the touch, somewhat resembles the feel of leather due to its design. So steering (and shift lever) not being a leather is not an issue.

Jetta Comfortline
1. Though the seats are not of high end leatherette, the interior feels more luxurious and classier than the civic (except for the door panels).
2. Heavy doors. A good thing? NVH? Or safety beam?
3. Special alignment of the wipers is needed to clean the windshield. Also, the wipers are not of standard sizes so looking for alternative (to casa) could be challenging. Was informed that casaÂ’s price is 4k(??) per pair.
4. No fog lamps. No after market lamps are available (?). Maybe need to buy the casing same as with that of Highline variant
5. Option to install backing sensors could be limited and more expensive. Was advised that Winterpine has to do a bespoke installation.
6. With push start/stop engine (not mentioned in their brochure nor their website). Big plus for me, since IÂ’ve been used to this nice-to-have feature in my other car.
7. Unusually high hump at the back row. Due to the drive shaft??
8. Tail light not LED. I think this should be a standard in this price range and times. Though not sure about this.

After the dealer visits, leaning a bit towards the Jetta mainly due to the powerful but fuel efficient diesel engine. The only downsides I see are the too traditional look and spare parts (un)availability that could lead to very expensive maintenance cost.

Just need to do a test drive of the Jetta to make sure it fits me well. Already test drove a Civic last month but it was the RS variant. So I may have to do one with the 1.8 to have a better apples to apples comparison.

[jut703]

The Jetta today is pretty much the Ford Focus TDCi of 10 years ago.

Outstanding diesel engine, European sensibilities, poor parts availability and more difficult maintenance.

The Focus was a nice novelty when it was new due to its frugality but long term ownership, an FD Civic is a better choice for me.

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[MamBad]

Just had my fluids check by a gas boy while I was having my car filled up.

I was shocked when he said na kulang na oil ko (kaka 1 month check ko lang sa casa). Pero short drive lang from the house na so tinuloy ko nalang. Checked earlier this morning before starting up okay pa naman levels within the criss cross patterns then consulted the manual to check after 3 mins of turning engine off pala dapat ang checking. So I decided to drive to work then checked after parking and waiting for 3 mins. Dumami because of expansion ata dahil sa heat pero goods parin.

Did I do that right? Do you guys check while hot or cold? For top up purposes do you recommend buying from Honda para ilagay sa trunk? Mixing different brands and grade is not recommended?



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[kisshmet]

Just had my fluids check by a gas boy while I was having my car filled up.

I was shocked when he said na kulang na oil ko (kaka 1 month check ko lang sa casa). Pero short drive lang from the house na so tinuloy ko nalang. Checked earlier this morning before starting up okay pa naman levels within the criss cross patterns then consulted the manual to check after 3 mins of turning engine off pala dapat ang checking. So I decided to drive to work then checked after parking and waiting for 3 mins. Dumami because of expansion ata dahil sa heat pero goods parin.

Did I do that right? Do you guys check while hot or cold? For top up purposes do you recommend buying from Honda para ilagay sa trunk? Mixing different brands and grade is not recommended?



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Theres a difference between checking the dipstick before and after an engine is started

Before running the engine the oil was stagnant for a long time and most likely have stayed down due to gravitational pull. Hence, the oil level will be either exactly on the max hole or a tad higher

When the engine is started the oil inside will disperse, spread out in the different nooks and crannies of the engine. Turn off the engine and check the dip stick. If previously the oil level is exactly on the max hole then after the engine run it should be a tad below the max hole. If its a tad more than max hole then it should be exactly on the max hole after the engine run

The proper level should be the one after an engine run when the oil is properly dispersed inside but since its the MAX hole were talking about its alright for the oil level to be a tad less than max

You need to top up only when the oil is already below the minimum hole

Thats what i learned from a mitsubishi service advisor

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[StockEngine]

Just had my fluids check by a gas boy while I was having my car filled up.

I was shocked when he said na kulang na oil ko (kaka 1 month check ko lang sa casa). Pero short drive lang from the house na so tinuloy ko nalang. Checked earlier this morning before starting up okay pa naman levels within the criss cross patterns then consulted the manual to check after 3 mins of turning engine off pala dapat ang checking. So I decided to drive to work then checked after parking and waiting for 3 mins. Dumami because of expansion ata dahil sa heat pero goods parin.

Did I do that right? Do you guys check while hot or cold? For top up purposes do you recommend buying from Honda para ilagay sa trunk? Mixing different brands and grade is not recommended?



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no need to bring engine oil... no oil consumption issues for that engine.

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[MamBad]

no need to bring engine oil... no oil consumption issues for that engine.

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Got it boss thanks hehe. At least this incident finally forced me to learn how to check fluids which in retrospect I should have done when I got the car


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[dr. d]

Just had my fluids check by a gas boy while I was having my car filled up.

I was shocked when he said na kulang na oil ko (kaka 1 month check ko lang sa casa). Pero short drive lang from the house na so tinuloy ko nalang. Checked earlier this morning before starting up okay pa naman levels within the criss cross patterns then consulted the manual to check after 3 mins of turning engine off pala dapat ang checking. So I decided to drive to work then checked after parking and waiting for 3 mins. Dumami because of expansion ata dahil sa heat pero goods parin.

Did I do that right? Do you guys check while hot or cold? For top up purposes do you recommend buying from Honda para ilagay sa trunk? Mixing different brands and grade is not recommended?



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engine oil is "stored" in the oil sump, which is the lowest part of the engine.
when the engine starts running, the oil pump pushes the oil to the rest of the engine, which is above the sump, to lubricate the engine.
when the engine is turned off, the oil is still in the upper parts of the engine. it takes a few minutes for that oil to gravitate down back to the sump.
in that period of gravitation, checking the oil level will give a misleadingly low reading.
this is one reason why i do not want the gas boys to check my oil level while i am gassing up. chances are, it will be misleadingly low.

oil expansion due to heat is very minimal. i doubt if one can see the difference, by just looking at the dipstick level. so, it does not matter whether you check oil level when hot or when cold. just give the oil a few minutes to gravitate back to the sump.

btw,
be sure the vehicle is level, when checking oil level.

[MamBad]

engine oil is "stored" in the oil sump, which is the lowest part of the engine.
when the engine starts running, the oil pump pushes the oil to the rest of the engine, which is above the sump, to lubricate the engine.
when the engine is turned off, the oil is still in the upper parts of the engine. it takes a few minutes for that oil to gravitate down back to the sump.
in that period of gravitation, checking the oil level will give a misleadingly low reading.

oil expansion due to heat is very minimal. i doubt if one can see the difference, by just looking at the dipstick level. so, it does not matter whether you check oil level when hot or when cold. just give the oil a few minutes to gravitate back to the sump.

btw,
be sure the vehicle is level, when checking oil level.

Thanks! I guess that explains the first reading and second reading difference first one was on a bit of an incline. Was planning to move the car before checking but I was in a rush to get to the office hehe


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[keithdb]

Check mo sa umaga bago gamitin. Yan ang best time to check.

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[kevindd992002]

So does that mean it is better to check the oil level a few minutes after turning off the engine? Or will "before turning on the engine in the morning" do?

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[Walter]

So does that mean it is better to check the oil level a few minutes after turning off the engine? Or will "before turning on the engine in the morning" do?

Varies depending on the manufacturer and engine model ...

[Walter]

Fuel pump attendants are professionally trained ...

[kevindd992002]

Varies depending on the manufacturer and engine model ...

Just check my car's manual and it says I can do it before turning on the engine or after turning off the engine (as long as you wait a few minutes), so yeah.

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[cerulean]

Not entirely Civic related but, have any of you guys considered buying the 2 years extended warranty? Is buying this even worth it considering Honda is not really the type of car that breaks down in after just 5 years considering also that we strictly follow the service maintenance menu?

[Sebastian Bach]

Not entirely Civic related but, have any of you guys considered buying the 2 years extended warranty? Is buying this even worth it considering Honda is not really the type of car that breaks down in after just 5 years considering also that we strictly follow the service maintenance menu?

Its worth it if you dont mind having your car serviced at the dealership for the whole 5years


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[kevindd992002]

Just check my car's manual and it says I can do it before turning on the engine or after turning off the engine (as long as you wait a few minutes), so yeah.

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[StockEngine]

omg a gas boy pala did the dip stick... 🤣🤣🤣

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