9th Gen Civic Owners

[spencersy]

My brothers 1.8 civic has problem the engine shuts down usually while cruising on the 3rd gear after restarting same problem occurs wla naman transmission noise and engine is ok naman does anyone have an idea whats wrong no check engine light also thanks

[marv25]

Hi guys. Thinking of getting an FB. Eto lang ba ang thread regarding the FB? I read the whole thread na from first to last. Wala ba talagang speed-sensing door lock yung Japan variant? Sayang naman kahit ang 2006 FD meron eh

[jut703]

Sent my 10.5g Altis G for servicing and got an FB Civic in exchange.

This car got maligned by reviewers for going staid after the sporty FD, and I could understand why:

- Suspension is noticeably softer. Not 10th gen Altis soft, but softer than the 11th gen Altis. The FD was on the stiff side and this swinged way too much towards the opposite direction.

- Steering is still quick, but utterly lifeless. I could barely feel if I still had grip or not, so it's not very confidence-inspiring when driven to the limits.

- They removed the paddle shifters. 😡

- It looks ugly from the rear, conservative at best from the front. The FD was certainly a better looker. I don't understand why they made it narrower and taller - which reduced its sporty appeal. The only thing they improved with the exterior is the addition of projector headlamps.

That said, the FB still has quite a lot of nice touches:

- The interior is excellent. The i-MID was something pretty unique in 2011, along with Bluetooth functionality. The 2-tier gauge from the FD was refined and made funkier - I quite like it.



- The engine and transmission still class-leading. So it's not as rev-happy as its previous iteration in the FD, but it still beats out the competition. For some reason though, my unit has a hard time going past 200 kph. I clocked 201 after a long stretch on the highway, but I remember the FD doing 210. My 11th gen Altis certainly has more grunt past 180 kph compared to the FB, must be because of the gearing (6MT vs 5AT).



- Econ mode actually works. I got 12.2 km/L with my usual Manila-Laoag drive, which is actually in the same league as what I'd get with my Altis even if I now have a bigger engine and more power.

Ultimately, maybe Honda tried to make an Altis. On one hand, they were pretty successful - the FB is as comfortable, more spacious, more powerful, and more high-tech than the 10.5 gen Altis.

However, since this was priced at almost 1.1M brand new, it didn't get as much a following as the FD. Perhaps the FD just set the bar too high that people expected the FB to be spectacular. Too bad it was just slightly better than the competition. The 11th gen Altis totally trumps this one, but the FC Civic is back with a vengeance.

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[jut703]

Took the FB for a proper shakedown on mountain roads. Gearing is good as second gear tops out at 118 kph which is perfect for carving corners at triple digit speeds.

Not sure if it's the steering, suspension, or the tires (Bridgestone Turanza ER33), but it was really hard to gauge the limit of the car. Really felt like I was on a Playstation as I had to keep on looking at the speedometer to check if I could still push harder in a corner or not. With my 11th gen Altis, the chassis was communicative enough to tell me if I had grip or not. The FD was even better as both steering and chassis were very communicative.

It doesn't feel planted but I was suprised it could still take corners quickly. Really takes some getting used to but the FB can still go faster than most compacts whether on the straights or twisties.

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[desertst0rm]

Took the FB for a proper shakedown on mountain roads. Gearing is good as second gear tops out at 118 kph which is perfect for carving corners at triple digit speeds.

Not sure if it's the steering, suspension, or the tires (Bridgestone Turanza ER33), but it was really hard to gauge the limit of the car. Really felt like I was on a Playstation as I had to keep on looking at the speedometer to check if I could still push harder in a corner or not. With my 11th gen Altis, the chassis was communicative enough to tell me if I had grip or not. The FD was even better as both steering and chassis were very communicative.

It doesn't feel planted but I was suprised it could still take corners quickly. Really takes some getting used to but the FB can still go faster than most compacts whether on the straights or twisties.

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Pangit talaga handling ng Honda pag EPS. Parang Playstation handling kahit straight naman yung kalsada it requires more effort & attention just to drive straight. Try mo mag drive ng hydraulic power steering. Pag sanay kana sa electric napasarap at napaka relax idrive ng hydraulic. Nag iiba pati sensibility ng steering wheel pag hydraulic pag mabilis na takbo mo. Pag electric kasi same lang yung feeling ng 20km/h at 160km/h.

[desertst0rm]

Took the FB for a proper shakedown on mountain roads. Gearing is good as second gear tops out at 118 kph which is perfect for carving corners at triple digit speeds.

Not sure if it's the steering, suspension, or the tires (Bridgestone Turanza ER33), but it was really hard to gauge the limit of the car. Really felt like I was on a Playstation as I had to keep on looking at the speedometer to check if I could still push harder in a corner or not. With my 11th gen Altis, the chassis was communicative enough to tell me if I had grip or not. The FD was even better as both steering and chassis were very communicative.

It doesn't feel planted but I was suprised it could still take corners quickly. Really takes some getting used to but the FB can still go faster than most compacts whether on the straights or twisties.

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Nakakatakot mag correct yung VSA lalo nampag basa yung kalsada. Try mo sa race track. Pag naka strut bar ka kahit 140 km/h takbo mo sa NaiaX parang tuwid yung zigsag pag hydraulic. Pag electric nakakatakot kahit 100km/h lang takbo mo lalo na pag nag blink yung VSA. Maagaw mo yung lane ng katabi mo.

[jut703]

Pangit talaga handling ng Honda pag EPS. Parang Playstation handling kahit straight naman yung kalsada it requires more effort & attention just to drive straight. Try mo mag drive ng hydraulic power steering. Pag sanay kana sa electric napasarap at napaka relax idrive ng hydraulic. Nag iiba pati sensibility ng steering wheel pag hydraulic pag mabilis na takbo mo. Pag electric kasi same lang yung feeling ng 20km/h at 160km/h.

I've driven the FD and it really has much better steering than the FB.

However, the EPS on the FB is lighter in city driving which more people appreciate.

Also, ALL EPS-equipped cars I've driven are speed-sensitive. Meaning it's much lighter at low speeds and stiffens up at highway speeds. Most evident here is the feather light steering of the new Everest.

On the contrary, it's the hydraulic power steering systems that aren't speed sensitive. I have a Mazda 3 2.0 which has one of the best steering feedback among compacts so I know what hydraulic feels like.

As usual, your comments are contrary to everything that I've observed based on first-hand experience, and also goes against the observations of the majority of car experts who have infinitely more driving experience than you.

Nakakatakot mag correct yung VSA lalo nampag basa yung kalsada. Try mo sa race track. Pag naka strut bar ka kahit 140 km/h takbo mo sa NaiaX parang tuwid yung zigsag pag hydraulic. Pag electric nakakatakot kahit 100km/h lang takbo mo lalo na pag nag blink yung VSA. Maagaw mo yung lane ng katabi mo.

You might just have to improve your car control. While it's true that hydraulic steering gives better feedback, I haven't had any hair-raising experiences driving any of my EPS-equipped cars past 140 kph even in the rain.

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[desertst0rm]

I've driven the FD and it really has much better steering than the FB.

However, the EPS on the FB is lighter in city driving which more people appreciate.

Also, ALL EPS-equipped cars I've driven are speed-sensitive. Meaning it's much lighter at low speeds and stiffens up at highway speeds. Most evident here is the feather light steering of the new Everest.

On the contrary, it's the hydraulic power steering systems that aren't speed sensitive. I have a Mazda 3 2.0 which has one of the best steering feedback among compacts so I know what hydraulic feels like.

As usual, your comments are contrary to everything that I've observed based on first-hand experience, and also goes against the observations of the majority of car experts who have infinitely more driving experience than you.



You might just have to improve your car control. While it's true that hydraulic steering gives better feedback, I haven't had any hair-raising experiences driving any of my EPS-equipped cars past 140 kph even in the rain.

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Ilan beses mo na ba natry VSA? ilan beses mo na nakita nag blink VSA sa intrument claster while driving? Kung di mo pa nakita mag blink yung VSA hindi mo pa nasubukan idrive na functiong yung VSA. Nag bliblink kasi yan pag functiong at may maririnig kang ugong na parang ABS ang tunog.

Noong hydraulic pa steering wala naman bumabagsak sa moose test. Simula ng nagka EPS at Electronic Stability Control mabibilang mo ang sasakyan papasa sa moose test. Pano naging safer kung simpleng moose test pa lang halos tumaob na yung sasakyan? Baka naman until now indenial ka parin sa Sudden Unintended Acceleration aka SUA? Hindi naman magbabayad ng settlement ang Toyota kung di yan totoo. Toyota to Pay $1.2B for Hiding Deadly ?Unintended Acceleration? - ABC News

Meron pa nga Sudden Unintended Braking.
Honda is recalling 182,000 vehicles, including 05 Pilot,
because the vehicle stability assist system could malfunction and apply the brakes without any input from the driver. | Statement by American Honda Regarding Vehicle Stability Assist Recall: 25 Honda Pilot; 25-26 Acura MDX and 25 Acura RL - Honda.com

[jut703]

Ilan beses mo na ba natry VSA? ilan beses mo na nakita nag blink VSA sa intrument claster while driving? Kung di mo pa nakita mag blink yung VSA hindi mo pa nasubukan idrive na functiong yung VSA. Nag bliblink kasi yan pag functiong at may maririnig kang ugong na parang ABS ang tunog.

I've intentionally forced traction control to take over through deliberate steering inputs on an empty stretch of road, just to check that it works. In normal driving, I have enough common sense and experience to avoid having to rely on traction control and ABS. If you do it right, you can maximize cornering speed and braking without necessitating your car's electronics to interfere.

Noong hydraulic pa steering wala naman bumabagsak sa moose test. Simula ng nagka EPS at Electronic Stability Control mabibilang mo ang sasakyan papasa sa moose test. Pano naging safer kung simpleng moose test pa lang halos tumaob na yung sasakyan?

Cars have failed the moose test even during the time when hydraulic PS was prevalent. Heck, one of the most famous recent moose test failures was the Hilux. Surprise surprise, it has hydraulic power steering. Moose test failures highlight chassis and suspension shortcomings, not steering sensitivity.

Baka naman until now indenial ka parin sa Sudden Unintended Acceleration aka SUA? Hindi naman magbabayad ng settlement ang Toyota kung di yan totoo. Toyota to Pay $1.2B for Hiding Deadly ?Unintended Acceleration? - ABC News

Toyota's SUA was proven to be driver error which was due to sticky floor mats. Oh, and bringing up Toyota's SUA is off-tangent to the discussion about the Civic.

Meron pa nga Sudden Unintended Braking.
Honda is recalling 182,000 vehicles, including 05 Pilot,
because the vehicle stability assist system could malfunction and apply the brakes without any input from the driver. | Statement by American Honda Regarding Vehicle Stability Assist Recall: 25 Honda Pilot; 25-26 Acura MDX and 25 Acura RL - Honda.com

All traction control systems apply the brakes without the driver stepping on it. That's how the car regains composure. Again, absolutely off-tangent bringing up a limited USDM Pilot recall in a discussion about the JDM Civic's VSA.

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[cancajas]

Took the FB for a proper shakedown on mountain roads. Gearing is good as second gear tops out at 118 kph which is perfect for carving corners at triple digit speeds.

Not sure if it's the steering, suspension, or the tires (Bridgestone Turanza ER33), but it was really hard to gauge the limit of the car. Really felt like I was on a Playstation as I had to keep on looking at the speedometer to check if I could still push harder in a corner or not. With my 11th gen Altis, the chassis was communicative enough to tell me if I had grip or not. The FD was even better as both steering and chassis were very communicative.

It doesn't feel planted but I was suprised it could still take corners quickly. Really takes some getting used to but the FB can still go faster than most compacts whether on the straights or twisties.

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Hi Sir. Hingi lang sana ako ng advice from you since you have driven the Civic FB and the 11th gen altis. I am now in a dilemma choosing between 2 used cars - 2015 Honda Civic 1.8E AT FB2 (19k ODO) and 2016 Toyota Altis G AT (12k ODO). They have the same price at 700k. Sulit na ba yan sila sa price na yan? Location is Cebu.

Here are the things I'm looking for a car
1. FC (mostly driven in a city)
2. Durability (planning to keep them more than 5 years)
3. Parts availability
4. Lower Maintenance Cost

Salamat po

[jut703]

Hi Sir. Hingi lang sana ako ng advice from you since you have driven the Civic FB and the 11th gen altis. I am now in a dilemma choosing between 2 used cars - 2015 Honda Civic 1.8E AT FB2 (19k ODO) and 2016 Toyota Altis G AT (12k ODO). They have the same price at 700k. Sulit na ba yan sila sa price na yan? Location is Cebu.

Here are the things I'm looking for a car
1. FC (mostly driven in a city)
2. Durability (planning to keep them more than 5 years)
3. Parts availability
4. Lower Maintenance Cost

Salamat po

I'd take the Altis G.

FC is roughly the same with a slight advantage for the Altis. Durability is also the same, both cars have no major issues. Parts availability is the same if you buy fron the dealerships. For 3rd party sellers, most likely it's easier to find parts for the Altis because it's more common. Maintenance cost is roughly the same - the Toyota has 5,000 km PMS intervals while the Honda has 10,000 km intervals.

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[baludoy]

^ haha

She looks a bit like maddie madayag though.

But it's hard to believe they live in that civic supposedly for months at a time. Tibay din nila at tibay din nung fb.

do what you gotta do so you can do what you wanna do

[BlancNoir]

how is the fc of the 2.0L variant? Am currently eyeing one right ow as my daily.

[Egan101]

how is the fc of the 2.0L variant? Am currently eyeing one right ow as my daily.

If you’re entertaining a 2.0L gas car as a daily driver, just enjoy it and never compare it with a small car with a small engine.

I use both an ASX and an XT as my daily drivers. One is NA while the other one is turbo. I get 7-8 km/L on the ASX and 6-7 km/L on the XT (Paranaque-BGC route).

I guess it is safe to get 7-8 km/L on a Civic 2.0L in mixed city-highway use, or maybe 6-7 km/L in BGC traffic conditions.


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[BlancNoir]

If you’re entertaining a 2.0L gas car as a daily driver, just enjoy it and never compare it with a small car with a small engine.

I use both an ASX and an XT as my daily drivers. One is NA while the other one is turbo. I get 7-8 km/L on the ASX and 6-7 km/L on the XT (Paranaque-BGC route).

I guess it is safe to get 7-8 km/L on a Civic 2.0L in mixed city-highway use, or maybe 6-7 km/L in BGC traffic conditions.


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haha youre right bro, i just wanna know kamusta yung consumption vs FC turbo.

FC turbo ng friend ko 5.5 to 6km/L - almost the same as my current daily driver.

*edit - Same pala as my current daily driver.

FD is out kasi the interior didnt age well imho.

[Egan101]

haha youre right bro, i just wanna know kamusta yung consumption vs FC turbo.

FC turbo ng friend ko 5.5 to 6km/L - almost the same as my current daily driver.

*edit - Same pala as my current daily driver.

FD is out kasi the interior didnt age well imho.

I guess the Civic 1.5T could do like 7-8 km/L on city routes if driven with a light foot. On heavy traffic, 6-7 km/L might be easy to achieve.


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[jut703]

how is the fc of the 2.0L variant? Am currently eyeing one right ow as my daily.

7-8 km/L ako before with my 1.8 EXi FB, same as my 1.8E FC.

6.5-7.5 km/L expected for the 2.0 FB, same engine as our current 5th gen 2.0 CRV, just with a lighter chassis but older transmission.

Matipid yung R20 for a 2.0 engine, unlike the K20 and K24. My K24 CRV only does 5-6 km/L.


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[BlancNoir]

7-8 km/L ako before with my 1.8 EXi FB, same as my 1.8E FC.

6.5-7.5 km/L expected for the 2.0 FB, same engine as our current 5th gen 2.0 CRV, just with a lighter chassis but older transmission.

Matipid yung R20 for a 2.0 engine, unlike the K20 and K24. My K24 CRV only does 5-6 km/L.


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Perfect compromise for power and fc then.
Thanks for the input bro!