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    #701
    Quote Originally Posted by EQAddict View Post

    The 120hp CR-V is fine as it is and will kill the Sorento in sales. Chip it if you need more power. Thats the basic.difference with the 160hp version. An ECU reprogram.


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    #702
    Oh. Thanks for the headsup Jut.

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    #703
    Quote Originally Posted by EQAddict View Post
    The 120hp CR-V is fine as it is and will kill the Sorento in sales. Chip it if you need more power. Thats the basic.difference with the 160hp version. An ECU reprogram.

    The 160 hp diesel engine has a different turbo ...

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    #704
    Quote Originally Posted by Sweetlucious View Post
    A friend got his crv a week or so ago, one thing he notice is like he is not getting the attention of the other car/noncar guys. As in nobody cares, unlike the other Honda stablemate Civic which is really eye catching.

    ito na yung sinasabi ko last month pa......ako lang dito nagpost na hindi worth it gagastos around 1.5 to 1.8million tapos walang dating.....nakakadismaya talaga yan....

    tapos majority dito nagpredict na papatok daw yung S Diesel at 1,759,000.00....hello!!! maybe sa unang taon sa mga galak bumili....pero sa second, third year tapos gaya ng sabi ko at this price tapos waley dating eh lalangawin yan.....

    usually mga bumebenta na 1.5million above eh mapoporma.....they dont care kahit gas guzzler pa.... importante pleasing to the eyes......

    kaya tingnan nyo sales ng crv sa 2nd year onwards..... pero ngayon pa lang duda na ako sa 1st year.....naghahype lang mga ahente.....

    yung mga nakapilia baka refund reservation na nung nakita sa kalsada..

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    #705
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    The 160 hp diesel engine has a different turbo ...
    from what I read Twin Turbo setup yung 160HP version...

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    #706
    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    If you're not in a hurry bro you can wait it out if ever they'll update to the 160 hp engine.

    They did so with the gen 1. Initially had the 126 hp engine then updated to the 148 hp engine after 2 years. Nothing's certain though.

    A chip is the best way to go to make the most of the 120 hp engine although of course at the expense of longevity. You can turn it off though if you don't need the power so I guess the detriment to the engine is minimized.

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    Yeah bro chipping is probably the way to go. Not really looking to match the 160 hp twin turbo. 40 hp seems too much of an ask for the CR-V's small turbo. +20 hp or so won't be too shabby.

    I have a chip in my 4x2 Navara and it's been there for most of its life with no issues. But I think that's in part because it is mechanically the same as the 4x4. The chip just brought the tune closer to the high powered variant. So modest gains I guess, are key.

    Quote Originally Posted by EQAddict View Post
    *Wh1stl3r

    Get a Sorento if you want a 7 seater diesel CUV that has power.

    But notice that no one is buying it despite its power, space, handling and efficiency.

    The 120hp CR-V is fine as it is and will kill the Sorento in sales. Chip it if you need more power. Thats the basic.difference with the 160hp version. An ECU reprogram.
    Bro, the Sorento isn't selling I think in part due to the brand not being popular here, durability issues of Korean cars in general, and the price.

    We've only ever had one Korean car (GS) and to me there are still some niggling quality issues absent from Jap makes.

    I also have this theory that factory fitted parts aren't as good as the after sales ones.

    I think having one Korean car is enough hehe.

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    #707
    ^^^ My in-laws has a 2010 Sorento AWD 2.4L gas, 7-seater. They had no issues with it. Just the usual maintenance PMS expense. They never had any engine or tranny issues over the past 7 years. I guess it is as reliable as its Japanese counterparts.
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    #708
    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    As it was, the outgoing CRV was selling pretty well despite offering nothing except the Honda badge. Now, they updated the 2.0S with all the tech from the Civic in a nice new package. That alone will steal thunder from the CUV frontrunners, the Forester and Tucson.

    However, the 2.0S in this case isn't really the CRV's bread and butter variant. It's just there to remind people that the CR-V, even its entry-level gas model, is already ahead of the mid-trim CUV pack. As the sales figures show though, the market for CUVs is small and dwindling further. In fact, the 2.0S is in the equation simply as a price anchor.

    Honda isn't out to kill PPVs. Just a niche - that of city-dwelling would-be PPV buyers who are buying PPVs because they're diesel, spacious, and have high ride heights, but have reservations with the ride comfort of PPVs and have no pressing need for 7 seats or rugged underpinnings. It sounds like a very specific niche, but that niche could be bigger than the entire gas-fed CUV-buying demographic altogether, given the huge disparity between CUV and PPV sales.

    For just 30k more than the gas CRV, you get a diesel 1.6V CRV. Yes you lose out a bit on features, but you gain 2 extra seats and
    lots of savings in terms of fuel costs. At 15,000 km annual mileage, you save about 40k per year in fuel between the gas and diesel variants.

    For those who are more discerning and with more cash to burn (this is a big market considering the success of thr Fort V vs the G despite costing 300k more), there's the 1.6S. It comes with all the bells and whistles that the majority of people care about - fancy head unit, fancy lights, big rims, push button ignition.

    The 1.6SX serves the exact purpose as the iPhone 7 128GB - an over the top variant that's really just meant to convince people that the mid-range (1.6S and iPhone 7 64GB) isn't too impractical - it's basic human psychology to go for the middle

    This isn't a PPV killer, just a more practical alternative (with tremendous brand equity) compared to all other CUVs. For the niche I mentioned above, the argument isn't, "For the price of a CR-V, I'll just get a Fortuner/Montero/Everest because it's more macho/more rugged/more spacious/whatever reason".

    Rather, the argument is, "For the price of a PPV, I'll just get a CR-V because it's just as frugal but is more comfortable."

    Honda's product positioning for the CR-V is very textbook Marketing 101.

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    #709
    Have the 2013 santa fe and i have experienced issues with it that you dont normally experience in japanese branded cars like faulty window motor, noisy steering, broken rear hatch shocks, fogging fog lights, chipping types and kalampag on speed bumbs. All these in one car, i think thats too much issues. After this experience, I have realized that korean branded cars are still not at par with japanese brands.


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    #710
    Does the 7 seater's second row recline more than the 5 seater? Or same lang?

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