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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    which one is fastest in stock condition?

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    #2
    imho, the SIR has more HP pa din, i think.... not sure ha?

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    high-revving torqueless wonder ang local SIR..and consumes like a 2.0 accord...

    kung local 2.0FD civic gusto mo, get a manual, di ka magsisisi.. 2.0 power in 2.0 consumption...


    personally, ako, pag mag FD-civic, i'll get the USDM 4-door Si....better if its an jdm TYPE-R...babadtrip lang ako sa local FD civic at 09 city-- INALIS ANG ULT seats!
    Last edited by alwayz_yummy; February 2nd, 2009 at 12:05 PM.

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    #4
    power to weight ratio... SIR pa din....


    SIR:

    bhp * rpm 160 * 7600
    1034 kg

    fd:
    bhp * rpm 155 * 6000
    1265 kg

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    FD 2.0L

    Peak horsepower is not everything. It's the power curve that will tell you the whole story.

    I have eaten up SiRs with my Project Sentra 2.0L with it's previously untuned engine.
    Last edited by ghosthunter; February 2nd, 2009 at 12:10 PM.

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    nothing replaces displacement....

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    #7
    except turbochargers (or a bunch of turbochargers)

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    #8
    The FD has a better torque curve than the SiR. The 1.8 FD is almost as quick as the SiR, and that's only 140 hp... the 2.0 has nearly the same power and much more torque. Given the weight difference, it balances out.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #9
    OT hope they re-release the 2.0s m/t version..

    this time with color choices of Racing Blue, Carbon Bronze, Taffeta White, Passion Orange, Formula Red

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    #10
    so i better go with the fd 2.0 manual than the sir? i'm choosing between the racing blue 2.0 and passion orange sir. naisip ko rin FC, talo ako sa sir.

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    #11
    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    FD 2.0L

    Peak horsepower is not everything. It's the power curve that will tell you the whole story.

    I have eaten up SiRs with my Project Sentra 2.0L with it's previously untuned engine.
    My stock engine 1.8MT FD beaten up bunch of SIR's on the track several times. Im not a professional racer though.

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    #12
    Quote Originally Posted by lugarai View Post
    My stock engine 1.8MT FD beaten up bunch of SIR's on the track several times. Im not a professional racer though.
    You have better torque and a better chassis. SiRs are fast in a straight line, but the chassis rigidity and handling limits are actually lower than many more modern cars. A Honda Jazz can outcorner an SiR handily... as my cousin learned to his chagrin when he couldn't shake one off his ass on the BRC.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #13
    off the line from idle, fd 2.0 will win hands down. an fd 1.8 might also do the trick.

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    #14
    2.0 FD will win against SiR... SiR is overrated vehicle.. even the 1.8 FD stock can beat the SiR..

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    #15
    The SiR was a high revving vehicle so it makes it seems fast pero mababa yung torque nya compared to the modern 1.8 of the FD.

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    we have tried this but with the 1.8v version m/t. the FD was bone stock and the sir only have I/H/E setup and light weight mags.

    the SIR took it and thats not bad for a 2 generation gap car with relatively cheap upgrade.

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    #17
    sorry, double post.

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    #18
    In a straight line, a good launch and immediate vtec activation of SiR in an I/H/E set-up will definitely beat a bone stock FD 1.8v anytime. Engine's of the 2 are worlds apart. R-series engines were designed to provide a wide power band with capability for further fuel economy. B-series (vtec) were design to have two personalities, hence a regular cam and racing cam profile.

2.0 fd vs. sir