(11th Gen) Honda Civic

[jut703]

Yung mga TOTL compacts mababa na nga yung sales. Most people would opt to spend 1.5M or more of their money on a 7-seater MPV or PPV instead.

For those with extra money to spare, they wouldn’t mind spending for something like a WRX/STi or Golf GTI or CTR or Yaris GR.


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Yun naman market ng Civic Si - it’s a direct competitor to the WRX/GTi while the Type R competes with the STi.


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[Egan101]

Yun naman market ng Civic Si - it’s a direct competitor to the WRX/GTi while the Type R competes with the STi.


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If Honda price it below 2M, then it will surely put a dent on the sales of the WRX.


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[ice15]

[TheUninvited]

All three PH variants turbo na (rip to the R18) with Honda Sensing.

But starting at 1.3M, sulit na yung base model. Not sure how will the RS sell this time.

Sa 10th gen, you add almost 500K just to get that turbo engine.

Now, the 11th gen seems like a better purchase vs the 10th if brand new.

Will probably trade my 10th gen to the 11th gen in a few years pero 2nd hand para mas sulit.

Since the pandemic nag iba na pananaw ko pag dating sa car, seems like we need it less since many companies will still offer permanent wfh even after this pandemic.

[ice15]

[jut703]

The rims live on from 10th gen to 11th gen [emoji16]






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[babkalakal]

The rims live on from 10th gen to 11th gen [emoji16]






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very bagay pa din! elegante tingnan

[viper888]

Very nice, matches beautifully

[hardwang]

The rims live on from 10th gen to 11th gen [emoji16]






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I thought you didn't like turbocharged cars hehe. Congrats.

[jut703]

I thought you didn't like turbocharged cars hehe. Congrats.

My Fort is turbocharged though?

The Azkarra is turbo as well. I have nothing against turbocharged cars. Whether NA or turbo, as long as it makes good power, then it’s good.


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[jut703]

Got to stretch out the Civic’s legs over the holiday. This is such a good car for the price, primarily because of the engine.

Spec-wise, this is essentially the Civic 1.8E from the FC with slightly less features but a big bump in power. On paper it looks like just a 37 hp difference (178 vs 141 hp) but IRL the FE has more useable power and a flatter torque curve. This is noticeable in the 0-100 times (8 sec vs 10.2 sec). In exchange, you lose some nifty features like LED headlamps, fog lamps, remote start, and keyless entry, but it’s a very good tradeoff.

The Civic can actually keep up with my IS 80% of the time, despite the 128 hp difference. The biggest difference is that the Lexus has power all the time at all parts of the rev range, while you have to wait for the Civic’s turbo to spool to get going. Granted, there’s very little turbo lag, but the split-second while waiting for the power to kick in can spell the difference between making an overtake and hitting the car approaching you head-on. This could’ve been solved by paddle shifters to simulate higher revs, but none of that in this base model Civic.

On the corners, since I had Pilot Sport 5 tires on both cars, cornering speed was pretty much identical. But while you can take curves at the same speed, obviously the Lexus feels more planted and effortless while the Civic feels more nimble but also more nervous (it’s 300 kg lighter after all). Overall despite being a bigger car, it still has the same nimbleness as the older FC.

Too bad they discontinued the base 1.5S Civic - I don’t think the mid-range V and flagship RS can draw in enough buyers to lure them away from the cheaper Altis or the more practical crossovers in the same price range.

The compact sedan is a dying breed, but this Civic FE is a pretty good way to go down fighting.


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[Yatta]

Eyeing this as an upgrade/replacement to our Mazda 2. Is the extra toys of the RS worth it over the V?

[dr. d]

Eyeing this as an upgrade/replacement to our Mazda 2. Is the extra toys of the RS worth it over the V?

in my opinion,
when it comes to the "higher end" variants,
it's not a question of "is it worth it" anymore,
it's already a question of "how much do i want it".

you already have the means to go from point A to point B in relative comfort.
what toys you want to play with along the way, is entirely up to you.

what would i do?
if it won't hemorrhage my bank account,
i'd go for broke.

when it comes to luxury,
there ain't no right or wrong answer.

heh heh.

[bxr monkey]

Eyeing this as an upgrade/replacement to our Mazda 2. Is the extra toys of the RS worth it over the V?

Para sa +200k, madami namang extras iyong RS. Depende siguro kung gusto lahat ng extras.

Sa RS gusto ko iyong Bose surround, complete airbags, at dual AC.

Sa V okay iyong smaller 17" na gulong, malamamg mas comfortable, tipid sa gas, at mas mura palitan.

Personal preference naman ang leather vs. Cloth seats.

[ice15]

BYD Seal 5 DM-i vs. Honda Civic RS: Subcompact-compact sedan Big Test | Top Gear Philippines
Top Gear Philippines

[GTcervan]

Not ideal for spirited driving due to the cvt, lalo na walang p/s pag lower variant. Pero kung yung type r then yes. At kahit tempting pa yung hev nila, ang mahal naman at 1.9m.

If straight line lang usually at torque ang habol, edi grabe na yung kicks e-power. Useful sa traffic, esp. pati f/c niya super oks din sa city. Puros hard plastics nga lang sa loob tsaka jittery ang ride.

I thought you didn't like turbocharged cars hehe. Congrats.

[Verbl Kint]

BYD Seal 5 DM-i vs. Honda Civic RS: Subcompact-compact sedan Big Test | Top Gear Philippines
Top Gear Philippines

A few notes:

• The pit a base model BYD PHEV vs a TOTL Honda ICE.
• Spoiler: The Honda won, but not by much.
• The title says "subcompact" but the Seal 5 is the size of a Camry.
• They neglected to do a 0-100 kph sprint comparison.

Price difference:

• BYD Seal 5 DM-i Dynamic: ₱ 948,000
• Honda Civic RS Turbo Honda Sensing: ₱ 1,790,000

I think a better comparison would have been the Civic RS e:HEV vs the Seal 5 Premium PHEV.

[ice15]

• They neglected to do a 0-100 kph sprint comparison.

they did mention that the Seal would have won a 0-60 comparison.

But I agree that a 60-80 test is more important. Honestly, I was disappointed with the 60-80 test result of the Seal.

[cityfolk]

they did mention that the Seal would have won a 0-60 comparison.

But I agree that a 60-80 test is more important. Honestly, I was disappointed with the 60-80 test result of the Seal.

At the 60-80 range the Seal's ICE would be taking over the propulsion duties from the electric motor. You'll be comparing the performance between the BYD's ICE with the Honda's ICE. I'm not surprised the Honda won.

[ice15]

^for me kasi, yung 60-100 are those alanganin na overtake sa provincial roads...

dito ako galit na galit sa Zenix and City namin kapag nakalimutan ko tanggalin sa ECO mode. para bang may split second na nag-iisip yung engine nago ibigay yung power na kailangan ko.

experienced this again a few weekends ago sa Cavite. may slow moving na truck kasi may nag bike sa harap nya. had a split second to overtake and buti na lang naka-Power mode si Zenix.