(11th Gen) Honda Civic

[babkalakal]

Compacts cars are now suffering what midsize sedans have suffered years before. Most buyers just opt for something else.

Midsize cars used to be priced where compact cars are right now. CUVs started to eat up on their sales and then newer/bigger compact cars.


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all that being said hindi ba halos deads na ang midsize sedan? napaka dalang ko maka kita ng camry sa daan. the accord even fewer. heck di hamak na mas marami pa ako nakikitang lc200 kaya sa bagong accord at camry combined.

[dr. d]

all that being said hindi ba halos deads na ang midsize sedan? napaka dalang ko maka kita ng camry sa daan. the accord even fewer. heck di hamak na mas marami pa ako nakikitang lc200 kaya sa bagong accord at camry combined.

it probably depends on where one looks.
sa slex, i do not fail to see at least one camry, every time i travel...

the cefiros of olde,
wala akong masyadong makita dati,
until i drove ayala avenue...

if one peruses the onlines,
medyo marami-raming camry doon,
nguni at halos walang cefiro nowadays.

between mpv/suv and larger sedan,
i would get a camry,
except that madalas magbaha satin...

[thearsenal1205]

I think HondaPH should release an all turbo civic lineup. This segment is quickly dying and giving the turbo treatment might lessen the bleeding.

They should be. Look at Geely's PH lineup they are all SUVs that killing the popularity of compact sedans. Almost all of them had 1.5L turbocharged engines. Also some other chinese crossovers has this turbocharging trend as well.

Or they will bring out the upcoming BRV with the same turbo engine as the Civic.

[dr. d]

They should be. Look at Geely's PH lineup they are all SUVs that killing the popularity of compact sedans. Almost all of them had 1.5L turbocharged engines. Also some other chinese crossovers has this turbocharging trend as well.

well,
if the price is right,
and the workmanship ain't too shoddy...

[Yatta]

They should be. Look at Geely's PH lineup they are all SUVs that killing the popularity of compact sedans. Almost all of them had 1.5L turbocharged engines. Also some other chinese crossovers has this turbocharging trend as well.

Or they will bring out the upcoming BRV with the same turbo engine as the Civic.

Ito yata ang reason why Chinese cars have a max of 1.5L engines.

https://www.autoindustriya.com/featu...es-for-ph.html

[Egan101]

well,
if the price is right,
and the workmanship ain't too shoddy...

Based on my experience with these Chinese crossovers, they are built well and workmanship is better for a Japanese brand of the same price range.

We have a Mitsubishi ASX, one of the more recent ones (2017 model). It fairs less in terms of features and interiors against the Geely Coolray and Ford Territory. The Geely Coolray top end model even has a lower price compared to the SRP of the ASX back in 2017.


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[papi smith]

If a sedan costs 1.1M and the Geely Okavango is 1.2M, ano ang pipiliin ng buyer?

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[Egan101]

If a sedan costs 1.1M and the Geely Okavango is 1.2M, ano ang pipiliin ng buyer?

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The Okavango is a 7-seater and more aligned in use with the other MPVs (Ertiga, BRV, Rush, Innova). The Okavango looks better though than the competition.

Compacts are more similar in use with small crossovers. There has been a healthy number of small crossovers sold. This includes the Ford Ecosport, MG ZS, Geely Coolray, Suzuki Vitara, Ford Territory, Chery Tiggo, Kia Soluto, Hyundai Kona, Toyota Cross, Honda HRV, and Mazda CX3.


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[thearsenal1205]

well,
if the price is right,
and the workmanship ain't too shoddy...

Vehicles that you can buy from the PRC wasn't quite shoddy these days. Unlike in the past where some of their gremlins came out.

Look at Chery and Geely right now...

[GTcervan]

Based on my experience with these Chinese crossovers, they are built well and workmanship is better for a Japanese brand of the same price range.

We have a Mitsubishi ASX, one of the more recent ones (2017 model). It fairs less in terms of features and interiors against the Geely Coolray and Ford Territory. The Geely Coolray top end model even has a lower price compared to the SRP of the ASX back in 2017.


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It's like comparing an expensive sony smartphone to a feature-packed china brand smartphone with a cheaper price hehe.

[Egan101]

It's like comparing an expensive sony smartphone to a feature-packed china brand smartphone with a cheaper price hehe.

No point comparing electronics stuff as most are made in China now. IPhones, TVs, laptops, and gadgets are all manufactured in China. People care more about the brand and care less where it’s made.

The first-world countries are to blame for China’s success in manufacturing. They made China richer than it could imagine. Years back, almost every big company put their manufacturing plants in China. Of course, China will learn the technology and market them as their own. Now, China companies are buying big foreign companies.

It could have been the Philippines instead of China. However, our dear elected officials are more concerned in pushing their personal agenda than the country. Talk about loyalty. Bahala kayo dyan basta ako magkapera.


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[ice15]

Ito yata ang reason why Chinese cars have a max of 1.5L engines.

https://www.autoindustriya.com/featu...es-for-ph.html

For PH -> all about the taxes

Pero I read an article earlier (sorry can't find the link) na in China, manufacturers also would get a tax incentive if their car has a 1.5L engine and below. Kaya a lot of their cars are 1.5L tapos either turbo or mild-hybrid to support na lang.

Based on my experience with these Chinese crossovers, they are built well and workmanship is better for a Japanese brand of the same price range.

no complains about Chinese cars. my personal concern is local support.

I've mentioned a million times na for now, the only Chinese car brand I can personally buy is Maxus because its under the AC Industrials.

Kahit anong sabihin ng iba na Chinese yung Territory and (local) VW cars. maayos pa din local backing nya.

Territory will be supported by Ford Philippines and (based on experience) I have no complains with previous experiences owning Hondas and Isuzus

If a sedan costs 1.1M and the Geely Okavango is 1.2M, ano ang pipiliin ng buyer?

IMO, depends on the buyer.

My family as a sample.
I will choose the Sedan, my wife and daughter will choose the Crossover/SUV

if isang isa lang... we will choose the sedan

[ice15]

hmmm, are we getting an all-Turbo line-up for the local Civic? or will Honda PH use Toyota PH's tried and tested formula in using the previous gen's engine line-up?

2022 Honda Civic now in Thailand with 1.5L turbo only | Autoindustriya

[jut703]

If Honda keeps the R18, it’ll be their longest running engine spanning at least 15 years and 4 generations of Civic.

Funny though, it was a damn good engine in 2006, but today in 2021 it still is a better engine than what Toyota and Mazda are offering in their compact sedans.


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[ice15]

If Vietnam decides to drop the non-Turbo Civic, then there's a high chance the next Civic (locally) will have an all-turbo line-up.

[GTcervan]

No point comparing electronics stuff as most are made in China now. IPhones, TVs, laptops, and gadgets are all manufactured in China. People care more about the brand and care less where it’s made.

The first-world countries are to blame for China’s success in manufacturing. They made China richer than it could imagine. Years back, almost every big company put their manufacturing plants in China. Of course, China will learn the technology and market them as their own. Now, China companies are buying big foreign companies.

It could have been the Philippines instead of China. However, our dear elected officials are more concerned in pushing their personal agenda than the country. Talk about loyalty. Bahala kayo dyan basta ako magkapera.


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Yep, grabe ang mararating ng bansa natin if we were on their shoes instead but to a lesser extent if size is considered. And regarding domestic politicians, well. Ika-nga, pinoy nagpapahirap sa kapwa pinoy.

[ice15]

Yep, grabe ang mararating ng bansa natin if we were on their shoes instead but to a lesser extent if size is considered. And regarding domestic politicians, well. Ika-nga, pinoy nagpapahirap sa kapwa pinoy.

here's the thing with us Pinoys...

we prefer imported stuff.

dati, pumunta ako sa car show in Thailand and Malaysia, laki ng banner ng cars nila, either made in Thailand or Malaysia

sa atin, ilang beses natin nakita yung Innova and Vios na naka-display na may malaking banner na made in the Philippines?

[Egan101]

here's the thing with us Pinoys...

we prefer imported stuff.

dati, pumunta ako sa car show in Thailand and Malaysia, laki ng banner ng cars nila, either made in Thailand or Malaysia

sa atin, ilang beses natin nakita yung Innova and Vios na naka-display na may malaking banner na made in the Philippines?

Assembled in the Philippines, not manufactured. Hahahaha


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[Automahn]

222 Honda Civic launched in Singapore - 1.5L VTEC Turbo with 129 PS; Honda Sensing, priced at RM384k - paultan.org

[ice15]

2?22 Honda Civic launched in Singapore - 1.5L VTEC Turbo with 129 PS; Honda Sensing, priced at RM384k - paultan.org

wow... the local distributor de-tuned the engine to meet the COE category.

I guess bahala na local Civic owners to cross the boarder to re-tune the engine