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  1. Join Date
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    Know what guys, the bottom line here is a senseless loss of life............

    For what??? Country? No... Race? Surely not!!!!!!!!

    This doesn't make any sense at all........

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    I'm not a lawyer so this is just my 2 cents worth..

    It would not matter if the victim was the one armed with the knife and one of the 4 grabbed it from him and killed him with it. It's still murder, through the use of an edged implement. Ownership of the implement has no bearing. The victim could have been stabbed to death with a sharp piece of pipe found nearby and the result would still be the same. It's bad enough that they ganged up on him, 4 vs 1, and they had to escalate the attack by stabbing him. There's no doubt that he was stabbed by one of the attackers, unless the lawyers can prove that the victim stabbed himself (I think the stab wounds are to his back and shoulder).

    It's not unlikely that the 4 had knives on them. Believe me, a lot of people in Metro Manila, even rich kids, carry knives. Based on the video I saw of the case, the knife is a Emerson Commander, which retails for around Php 10,000. Easily affordable by those who can buy Volvos. According to the police report, there were other knives found in the vehicle.

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    Yup! And a tactical knife that small is easier to bring with you than a handgun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bud_wiser View Post
    I'm not a lawyer so this is just my 2 cents worth..

    It would not matter if the victim was the one armed with the knife and one of the 4 grabbed it from him and killed him with it. It's still murder, through the use of an edged implement. Ownership of the implement has no bearing. The victim could have been stabbed to death with a sharp piece of pipe found nearby and the result would still be the same. It's bad enough that they ganged up on him, 4 vs 1, and they had to escalate the attack by stabbing him. There's no doubt that he was stabbed by one of the attackers, unless the lawyers can prove that the victim stabbed himself (I think the stab wounds are to his back and shoulder).
    Obviuosly, you are not a lawyer.

    The lawyers of the accused can claim that the knife was brought out by Anikow, and the stabbing was a result of Self-Defense after being wrestled away from the victim.

    "Do not under-estimate a lawyer's capacity to lie", my cousin attorney always says.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HondaWay View Post
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    58 dead
    3 years
    Wala pa rin usad ang kaso.

    Iba treatment sa atin sa mga mapera at makapangyarihan.
    hindi naman po sa dami ng namatay ang basehan para bumilis ang isang kaso.....

    sir may proceso po kasi tayong sinusunod kaya tumatagal ang hearing at hindi lang yun more or less nasa 105 po ang ipriprisinta na witness dyan ng prosecution....

    at isa pa po... may pera din po ang mga magandatu....

    if we want to blame someone here.... blame the private prosecutor.... (lawyer ng mga magandatu at ka eskwela ni chocolate)

    halos araw araw na din po ang hearing dyan... and madalas pa simula umaga hangang hapon po inaabot ang hearing......
    bulong bulungan nga dyan... kung nababagalan po kayo bakit hindi nyo subukan kayo maging judge dyan...

    re. naman dito po sa kaso na ito.... malamang nga tumagal ito...

    pero ang importante maisampa na po ang kaso sa husgado.... dun palang sigurado ko sainyo abot langit ang pag sisisi ng mga taong makakasuhan dito.....

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    Moral lesson:

    Mind your own business. Sa mga panahon ngayon almost everybody out on the streets can pose as a threat to security and safety. If it does not concern you, don't enter the situation and endanger yourself or your companions.

    Ang mga bayani, pinapatay ... morbid as it may sound pero its true!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowslowbenz View Post
    Moral lesson:

    Mind your own business. Sa mga panahon ngayon almost everybody out on the streets can pose as a threat to security and safety. If it does not concern you, don't enter the situation and endanger yourself or your companions.

    Ang mga bayani, pinapatay ... morbid as it may sound pero its true!
    Moral lesson 2:

    Never ever tap a Volvo.

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    Grabe naman yan, pinatay dahil tinapik ang kotse. Pwede naman bugbugin lang kung talagang maangas talaga.

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    Na released na nga ng philstar eh


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    Moral of the story:

    Wag mo problemahin ang hindi mo problema.

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    Nasa custody na daw and murder ang charge so non bail ito. I'm very curious how the case will be handled considering the victim is a US marine and the wife is a US expat.

    If the US wants to pursue the case, parang walang laban ang anak nila mama at papa. Bigating pulitiko that would risk his career lang ang pwede magareglo

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirkosero View Post
    Nasa custody na daw and murder ang charge so non bail ito. I'm very curious how the case will be handled considering the victim is a US marine and the wife is a US expat.

    If the US wants to pursue the case, parang walang laban ang anak nila mama at papa. Bigating pulitiko that would risk his career lang ang pwede magareglo
    Chances are, 3 of them would turn on the guy with the knife. They'd get jail time/probation for assault. The guy with the knife goes down for murder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EVO-V View Post
    Chances are, 3 of them would turn on the guy with the knife. They'd get jail time/probation for assault. The guy with the knife goes down for murder.
    The act of one is the act of all. The punishment of murder is capital punishment but there is no death penalty here in our country, most probably reclusion perpetua.


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    SEAL TEAM 6 attacks Bel Air Rich Kids

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    The guy in a Major with the US Marines RCT-3,

    https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=124391149839



    Maj. George Anikow, Civil Affairs detachment executive officer with Regimental Combat Team 3, jokes with local children during a patrol in Helmand Province, Afghanistan, Aug. 18, 2009. Company D, 2nd Assault Amphibious Battalion and civil affairs group Marine are interact with the local populace in order to understand their concerns and identify possible reconstruction and development projects. Co. D Marines are deployed with Regimental Combat Team 3, whose mission is to conduct counterinsurgency operations in partnership with the Afghan national security forces in southern Afghanistan



    U.S. Marine Corps Maj. George Anikow speaks with villagers during a census patrol in Helmand province, Afghanistan, Aug. 18, 2009. Anikow is assigned to Delta Company, 2nd Amphibious Assault Battalion, 2nd Marine Expeditionary Brigade. U.S. Marine Corps photo by Sgt. Pete Thibodeau
    Last edited by Monseratto; November 26th, 2012 at 08:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beni23 View Post
    The act of one is the act of all. The punishment of murder is capital punishment but there is no death penalty here in our country, most probably reclusion perpetua.


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    AGREE with you sir.... the act of one is the act of all and besides all of them ganged up on the victim....

    pero mukhang papasok lang po ng homicide yan....

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    Mga spoiled brats thugs Lang pala katapat ng mga US marine...the brave, the few, the proud...

    Nasaan na mga journalist wannabes...yun mga epal Sa amalayer? Nasaan mga FB accounts nitong mga thugs?


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    Mga spoiled brats thugs Lang pala katapat ng mga US marine...the brave, the few, the proud...
    hindi ata kasama sa training nila paano ma-overcome ang kuyog style attack

    malamang lahat ng involved naka-inom kaya lahat matapang. medyo out-of-place lang iyong kutsilyo dun sa rambulan. malamang iyong may-ari nung sasakyan ang may-ari nung patalim

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    The US State Department will be very interested with this case...hehehe...

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    Huwag epaloid lalo na pag lasing...


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