My dad got caught sa Skyway (April 5, 2012) - 114 km/h - license plate confiscated

[Blackraven]

This happened on April 5, 2012 (Holy Thursday/Maundy Thursday). We were traveling on the way to Batangas from Makati. As we were approaching the tollgate sa itaas, we were stopped by the Skyway/PNCC patrol people. Sabi daw na nagoverspeeding ang dad ko * 114 km/h.

WTF. Wala man lang allowance or tolerance of 20% (up to 120 km/h na tulad sa NLEX). Masyado naman OA itong mga SOMCO people.

Ngayon, fine, okay lang sana *siguro* kung violation ticket ang file nila.......pero grabe gusto pa nila kunin yung driver's license ng tatay ko. For one thing, hindi ba na walang authority ang mga Skyway traffic enforcers na mag-confiscate ng driver's license? Bakit ginagawa ng mga buwaya ang ganun? Anyways, my dad refused (and for valid reason kasi kelangan nya since magmamaneho siya sa America for a one week business trip).

Ngayon, as a result, gusto kunin ng mga gagong iyon ang front license plate. Wait lang, hindi ba private property ang vehicle registration plate? And correct me if I'm wrong pero AFAIK, may ruling or TRO sa Supreme Court na hindi puwede i-confiscate ang vehicle license plate.

IMHO, I think this is bullshit for many reasons:
-Unang-una, bullshit yung uber-slow na 100 km/h for Skyway for private cars (in dry weather conditions). I bet na hindi man lang sila gumawa ng research study for this. Basta gumawa lang ng pakana ang mga buwaya para kumuha ng lagay.
-Bakit hindi nila hulihin yung mga pagong sa fast lane/overtaking lane/passing lane na tumatakbo ng 60 km/h? Hypocrites talaga.
-Nag-enforce na confiscate ang drivers license ng nagmamaneho WHEN IN FACT they have no authority para gawin iyon (like yung ginagawa ng mga ilang MMDA na tauhan)
-Forced confiscation of front license plate when they have no authority to do so

And to think, lahat ng mga buwaya na may speed gun ay nasa Skyway (itaas) pero sa ilalim, walang mga enforcers dun. Bakit kaya?

Anyways, now that confiscated yung front license ng kotse, kukunin pa ng tatay ko yung plaka sa may East Avenue. Hayzz.

Pure BS talaga yung mga buwayang enforcer ng SOMCO. IMHO, motorists should band together para mag-request ng TRO against sa mga ginagawa ng mga ganoong klaseng mga buwaya. :bash::ohno:

Pero guys ano sa tingin niyo? Personally, I think this BS talaga. It's like they pulled a random number for a speed limit out of their ass......tapos ginawang law. . Tapos, for mild over speeding like 114 km/h, huli na. Heck, I've heard nga na may nahuhuli pa na 102 km/h and even 101 kph MY GOD what are those Skyway enforcers smoking.

There is definitely something that is ****ed up around here, won't you guys agree?

[Retz]

^

pati front license plate kinukuha?? parang smoke belching lang ah.

[shadow]

^

pati front license plate kinukuha?? parang smoke belching lang ah.

Hinde pati license plate Ang kinuha ayaw ibigay ng tatay niya yun DL, kaya plate kinuha...

[Retz]

Hinde pati license plate Ang kinuha ayaw ibigay ng tatay niya yun DL, kaya plate kinuha...

ah okay. hindi nga pala binigay ang DL.

[chua_riwap]

ano ba speed limit sa skyway? 100kph?
baka kung nasa 100 ka eksakto, pero sa reading nila 100+ na, yari ka.

kasi kung lampas ka na ng 100kph, kahit ga-buhok lang, huli ka na?
so dapat nasa 95 kph lang para safe ka. he-he! sa ibaba na lang ako ng slex.

[Retz]

*Blackraven,


how much ang naging penalty? mas mahal ba pag plaka na kinuha compared sa DL?

[Bin Diesel]

The max speed is 100kph. The lesson learned never assume.
100kph may be slow but you are still not justified to go above it.
I think these guys are deputized by LTO that is why you have to claim your license or plate at the LTO office in QC or LTO office in Lipa (if you were caught in Laguna).

[shadow]

FYI, they have the authority to confiscate the license...secondly that's their policy so you just have to follow it, Bakit pag pumapasok ka sa mga villages binibigyan mo rin license mo, mas Wala naman yata ng authority yun mga security guards, but you still follow dahil patakaran nila...

Third hinde sila bwaya dahil they didn't ask for bribes sa tatay mo...Saka matagal ng Meron speed limit sa skyway...

Don't bash them and whine here Kung Mali naman talaga kayo...

And yes, they're right, you're wrong...

[miko101130]

Bro, how did the traffic enforcers at the skyway able to factually and irrefutably say that you're over speeding at 114KPH? did they present any evidence like a freeze frame picture shot of you're vehicle and you're license plate while doing 114KPH? did the 114KPH speed only lasted a few seconds or not?

The burden of proof kasi is on the apprehending authority... I believe that if did run for 114KPH but only for a brief time to overtake then its acceptable, but the law is the law brother... 101KPH is still over speeding...

I understand you're opinion regarding the argument of what is the necessary and scientifically needed speed limit...
from my point of view 100kph is slow for a "SKYWAY"
there are 3 lanes on skyway from makati to las pinas,
*i think the inner left lane should be mandated to have a 120kph limit,
*the middle lane should have a max of 100kph
*while the third lane at the right should have 60-80kph speed limit...
*of course all the buses and public utility is mandated to use the 80kph limit....

speed doesn't kill... (speed is always subjective, what maybe fast or slow might be not what others perceive)

[OTEP]

Sir the company I work for serves the nlex. Talagang 120kph before apprehensions are made. Pero hindi kasi official rule ito so even at 101 kph pwede ka hulihin kung gusto ng officer. Mainit mga yan pag maganda oto mo. Gusto maka kill akala mo video game.

But why 120? Because they have to allow for speedometer error especially on vehicles that are running non standard tire sizes.

Sir pwede nila kunin ang DL. I wont berate you on that anymore. Deputized kasi sila even if their training and work ethic leaves a lot to be desired.

[miko101130]

[111prez]

may choice pala kung DL o plaka ang i-confiscate?

ngayon ko lang alam ito

[KIANTOT]

Sir yun talaga ang gagawin nila pag ayaw ibigay ng driver ang DL, plate no. ang kukunin, kung may consideration yung enforcer pwedeng isa minsan 2 kinukuha kapag nakipag talo ka pa sa kanila

[dale323]

to TS: as much as i want to agree on you regarding 100kph being slow, you have to follow their rules.

[Retz]

hindi ba nadadaanan sa mahinahon na usapan ang mga nanghuhuli sa skyway? kung lagpas ka ng 5 or 10 km/hr beyond the speed limit maybe they could be considerate.

[shadow]

meron talagang stretch SB after ng makati exit na pababa yun daanan doon madalas nahuhuli yun mga motorist. nahuli na rin ako diyan few years ago...I just sucked it up and just asked someone to get my license sa East Ave.

[dale323]

hindi ba nadadaanan sa mahinahon na usapan ang mga nanghuhuli sa skyway? kung lagpas ka ng 5 or 10 km/hr beyond the speed limit maybe they could be considerate.

Bro, if they have evidence such as photo katulad sa MMDA, wala na dapat usapan. Yan ang sakit kasi ng pinoy e. Lagi na lang tayo nakikiusap for our convenience. Might as well stick to 100kph max speed limit na lang para wala ng usapan. May mga daan naman na hindi mahigpit sa speed limit (such as EDSA, Osmena and Marcos Hiway), dun nyo na lang ilabas and urge to speed up. Mas maganda siguro kung sa race track na lang para wala talagang huli.

I drive either a 60+ hp pick up truck or a 110hp car. Kung pick up ang dala, max speed ko na ang 80kph dahil yun lang safe na kaya nun. Kung yung kotse naman, depende na lang sa dinadaanan. It can do as much as 180kph or as slow as 60kph sa hiway.

Just follow the road rules na lang. Ginawa yan para maging safe lahat.

[ghosthunter]

to TS: as much as i want to agree on you regarding 100kph being slow, you have to follow their rules.

Same here... As much as I think the 100kph speed limit is too slow, if you are caught, just pay up. If you want to get away with speeding on the expressways, be prepared with the proper "tools".

Example: police speed-radar and speed-laser detectors. Or laser jammers (for those areas which use laser speed guns).

[Blackraven]

Hmm....

1) For one thing, how can they justify na accurate yung speed guns and camera/radar/laser equipment nila? Does it match sa speedometer ng sasakyan ng tatay ko? Thing is, speed is relative. That and marunong nga ba gumagamit ng mga ganun yung mga mangmang na iyan? As SIR OTEP said, speedometer error and tolerance. Pero wala, mukha ata na itong mga mangmang na ito ay ZERO TOLERANCE AND ALLOWANCE.

2) Correct me if I'm wrong pero hindi ba illegal na i-confiscate ang plaka ng sasakyan? My cousin told me that there is a Supreme Court ruling that prohibits such. Kung ganun, it makes sense.....kasi vehicle plates ARE PRIVATE PROPERTY.

3) Safety issues brought by a disastrously low speed limit
Need I say loss of driver consciousness as well as increase incidence of vehicle tailgating (i.e. nagiging masyado malapit ang distansya ng mga sasakyan sa isa't-isa)

Thing is: I'm not against a speed limit. In fact, pwede naman rin ang speed limit. The issue here is that it is absurdly-slow and is out of touch with reality. Not all roads are the same. The likes of SLEX, NLEX, SCTEX have curves and changing elevation kaya pwede na rin siguro baka pwede pa 100 km/h with tolerance of 20 km/h +5%. Pero to apply the same sa Skyway which is 99% straight (tapos kahit walang sasakyan sa harap, bawal ang 101 km/h onwards or kahit 120 km/h man lang).

IMHO, before gawin ng LTO/DOTC yan, ayusin muna nila yung corruption sa mga tauhan nila, i-ban ang colorum vehicles and slow vehicles (<60 km/h) sa inner lane, etc etc.

Grabe, yung ginagawa nila is like rubbing salt on a wound.

P.S.
With that said, I really wanna hear what sir ghosthunter has to say as well as his insights and opinions on this subject matter

[Retz]

Hmm....

1) For one thing, how can they justify na accurate yung speed guns and camera/radar/laser equipment nila? Does it match sa speedometer ng sasakyan ng tatay ko? Thing is, speed is relative. That and marunong nga ba gumagamit ng mga ganun yung mga mangmang na iyan? As SIR OTEP said, speedometer error and tolerance. Pero wala, mukha ata na itong mga mangmang na ito ay ZERO TOLERANCE AND ALLOWANCE.

2) Correct me if I'm wrong pero hindi ba illegal na i-confiscate ang plaka ng sasakyan? My cousin told me that there is a Supreme Court ruling that prohibits such. Kung ganun, it makes sense.....kasi vehicle plates ARE PRIVATE PROPERTY.

3) Safety issues brought by a disastrously low speed limit
Need I say loss of driver consciousness as well as increase incidence of vehicle tailgating (i.e. nagiging masyado malapit ang distansya ng mga sasakyan sa isa't-isa)

Thing is: I'm not against a speed limit. In fact, pwede naman rin ang speed limit. The issue here is that it is absurdly-slow and is out of touch with reality. Not all roads are the same. The likes of SLEX, NLEX, SCTEX have curves and changing elevation kaya pwede na rin siguro baka pwede pa 100 km/h with tolerance of 20 km/h +5%. Pero to apply the same sa Skyway which is 99% straight (tapos kahit walang sasakyan sa harap, bawal ang 101 km/h onwards or kahit 120 km/h man lang).

IMHO, before gawin ng LTO/DOTC yan, ayusin muna nila yung corruption sa mga tauhan nila, i-ban ang colorum vehicles and slow vehicles (<60 km/h) sa inner lane, etc etc.

Grabe, yung ginagawa nila is like rubbing salt on a wound.

P.S.
With that said, I really wanna hear what sir ghosthunter has to say as well as his insights and opinions on this subject matter

buy radar / speed guns detector?