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    #1381
    wow galing neto. eye-opener din. mali talaga na sadyang harangin ng daan. ako naman napapa iling ako tuwing masikip sa side then may dadaan na motor. sabay 'whew' pag lumagpas na ang motor. then after 5 seconds may dadaan na naman!

    Quote Originally Posted by SerialMaus View Post
    Ahem .... ang daming mga car owners dito na MATAPOBRE at ano tingin niyo sa sarili niyo, you have more rights on the road just because you think you are financially above another person because you are driving a car/cage and the other is driving a two wheel? Don't be too sure, since I am anonymous here, I'll give myself as an example, do you really think you are financially better than those motorbikers? Take me for example, there are a lot of bikers doing better than me, I already earn almost a 100K in salary alone, my wife also earns somewhere near that, plus we have a business in the province, we own two house and lots, and lots of real property in the province, but on the road you will more likely see me riding my 220cc tour bike or even on a Motorstar 110cc UB (underbone) or even a SYM or RUSI tricycle than riding our car and van. So, you think motorbikers have less rights on the road because you think you are richer than them? Baka mamaya, yung biker na inaapi mo, masmarami pa taxes contributed sa construction ng road na pinagmamadamot mo sa kanila.

    1) The roads are made from the tax payers money. Question: Are you a tax payer? Are they tax payers?
    2) The roads are made for vehicles. Question: Are you driving a vehicle? Are they driving a vehicle?

    Excuse me, some of us car/cage owners (like me, we have more than one) still prefer riding motorbikes (again we have more than one from an underbone to workhorse standard bikes to tour bike type, even tricycles believe it or not). Why?

    1) Traffic Jams. Motorbikes can filter through traffic way better than any vehicle, that is not a bad thing, and should not be hated by us car drivers, it's an innate capability of all vehicles, yes ALL VEHICLES. We car drivers are also doing 'filtering' unknowingly, just by switching lanes, overtaking, getting in between two vehicles to squeeze through. It's just that the motorbikes can do this a lot more efficiently, a lot more effectively, and a lot more frequently. Though its a lot more risky for the rider than a car/cage driver.

    2) Mileage. Motorbikes consume less. Less petrol, less tire rubber, less engine oil, less brake fluids, has less mechanical maintenance cost.

    3) Love. Some of us are motorbike enthusiasts. Riding on two wheels can be exhilirating, and a breath of fresh air.



    Andyan pa yung nabasa ko nampipina ng rider ... alam mo na palang may intention to overtake ang isang motor at kasya naman siya sabay sasaraduhan mo ng sadya ang daan? Ang tawag dun ay BASTOS sir. Ginagawa din yun ng kotse ah, yung sisingit at o-overtake, nasa timing lang yan at nasa tamang acceleration plus tamang space computation. Pagmali, sasabit, mabibitin kahit kotse ka pa o motor. Pero kung yung motor e kaya naman bakit mo sasadyaing harangan? Maling attitude yun, gawin kaya sa iyo yan ng kapwa mo kotse o bus o truck? This kind of attitude is dangerous, that antic could have caused the rider to panic and crash, what an idiotic thing to do. Just let them pass, you don't lose anything when you do that, because in the end, you are still stuck behind another cage/car.

    And let me explain another thing I read here, someone wondering about the habit of riders to come together in an accident. This is not a plain 'kampihan' thing. This is rider to rider helping hand attitude, one thing in motorbiking culture that car drivers do not usually have. Motorbikers usually will help each other and even car drivers, it is a mindset in the biker culture. Let me explain further, other motorbikers will stop to block the vehicles involved in the accident because one thing we learned is, cagers/car drivers will run away from an accident leaving the poor rider on the ground. That is why one of you experienced the box-out event and then the rider let other cars pass once the vehicles involved are stopped. It is not about who was wrong or right on an accident, it's about getting the parties resolve a problem. Do not quickly assume that the car/cage was in the right when an accident happens between a motorbike and a car/cage even if the motorbike hit the back of the cage/car. For all we know the cage/car could have cut through and suddenly stopped without warning. That is another thing we learned, car/cage drivers care less about motorcycles, they do not bother looking at the side mirrors, rear mirrors to check if they are going to hit a motorbike, they care less because they are sitting-pretty inside their caged vehicles.

    Let me also explain another phenomenon with motorbikes trying to be at the front on a stop light:

    1) If motorbikers are behind a cage/car, they are inhaling your fumes. Question: are your cages/cars not puffing black smoke?

    2) If motorbikers are pinned surrounded by cages/cars, the heat from your car/cage engines and even exhaust pipes radiates around your vehicle, hence, the biker absorbs all these. Remember bikers do not have air conditioning.

    3) In intersections, some vehicles at the back fail to stop and hit motorbikes infront, so we usually use another car/cage as a shield against those vehicles from further back that may fail to stop and turn us into sandwich spreads. Having no vehicle up front also enables as to have more reaction choices for any problems that may arise from behind.

    4) Motorbikes usually accelerate faster than cage/cars, and being in between them will only add us as traffic obstacles for all of you. We will only be hit by unruly jeeps and buses that suddenly turn left or right on a go signal. If motorbikes are upfront, they clear the traffic faster, leaving less number of vehicles battling during a 'go' signal.

    I do see alot of riders are also stupid and reckless, but that does not give you the right to:
    1) Generalize
    2) Ridicule the group
    3) Maltreat the group while on the road

    ADIOS.

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    2 newbies. 1st post mainit agad. this is gonna be interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SerialMaus View Post
    Ahem .... ang daming mga car owners dito na MATAPOBRE at ano tingin niyo sa sarili niyo, you have more rights on the road just because you think you are financially above another person because you are driving a car/cage and the other is driving a two wheel? Don't be too sure, since I am anonymous here, I'll give myself as an example, do you really think you are financially better than those motorbikers? Take me for example, there are a lot of bikers doing better than me, I already earn almost a 100K in salary alone, my wife also earns somewhere near that, plus we have a business in the province, we own two house and lots, and lots of real property in the province, but on the road you will more likely see me riding my 220cc tour bike or even on a Motorstar 110cc UB (underbone) or even a SYM or RUSI tricycle than riding our car and van. So, you think motorbikers have less rights on the road because you think you are richer than them? Baka mamaya, yung biker na inaapi mo, masmarami pa taxes contributed sa construction ng road na pinagmamadamot mo sa kanila.

    1) The roads are made from the tax payers money. Question: Are you a tax payer? Are they tax payers?
    2) The roads are made for vehicles. Question: Are you driving a vehicle? Are they driving a vehicle?

    Excuse me, some of us car/cage owners (like me, we have more than one) still prefer riding motorbikes (again we have more than one from an underbone to workhorse standard bikes to tour bike type, even tricycles believe it or not). Why?

    1) Traffic Jams. Motorbikes can filter through traffic way better than any vehicle, that is not a bad thing, and should not be hated by us car drivers, it's an innate capability of all vehicles, yes ALL VEHICLES. We car drivers are also doing 'filtering' unknowingly, just by switching lanes, overtaking, getting in between two vehicles to squeeze through. It's just that the motorbikes can do this a lot more efficiently, a lot more effectively, and a lot more frequently. Though its a lot more risky for the rider than a car/cage driver.

    2) Mileage. Motorbikes consume less. Less petrol, less tire rubber, less engine oil, less brake fluids, has less mechanical maintenance cost.

    3) Love. Some of us are motorbike enthusiasts. Riding on two wheels can be exhilirating, and a breath of fresh air.



    Andyan pa yung nabasa ko nampipina ng rider ... alam mo na palang may intention to overtake ang isang motor at kasya naman siya sabay sasaraduhan mo ng sadya ang daan? Ang tawag dun ay BASTOS sir. Ginagawa din yun ng kotse ah, yung sisingit at o-overtake, nasa timing lang yan at nasa tamang acceleration plus tamang space computation. Pagmali, sasabit, mabibitin kahit kotse ka pa o motor. Pero kung yung motor e kaya naman bakit mo sasadyaing harangan? Maling attitude yun, gawin kaya sa iyo yan ng kapwa mo kotse o bus o truck? This kind of attitude is dangerous, that antic could have caused the rider to panic and crash, what an idiotic thing to do. Just let them pass, you don't lose anything when you do that, because in the end, you are still stuck behind another cage/car.

    And let me explain another thing I read here, someone wondering about the habit of riders to come together in an accident. This is not a plain 'kampihan' thing. This is rider to rider helping hand attitude, one thing in motorbiking culture that car drivers do not usually have. Motorbikers usually will help each other and even car drivers, it is a mindset in the biker culture. Let me explain further, other motorbikers will stop to block the vehicles involved in the accident because one thing we learned is, cagers/car drivers will run away from an accident leaving the poor rider on the ground. That is why one of you experienced the box-out event and then the rider let other cars pass once the vehicles involved are stopped. It is not about who was wrong or right on an accident, it's about getting the parties resolve a problem. Do not quickly assume that the car/cage was in the right when an accident happens between a motorbike and a car/cage even if the motorbike hit the back of the cage/car. For all we know the cage/car could have cut through and suddenly stopped without warning. That is another thing we learned, car/cage drivers care less about motorcycles, they do not bother looking at the side mirrors, rear mirrors to check if they are going to hit a motorbike, they care less because they are sitting-pretty inside their caged vehicles.

    Let me also explain another phenomenon with motorbikes trying to be at the front on a stop light:

    1) If motorbikers are behind a cage/car, they are inhaling your fumes. Question: are your cages/cars not puffing black smoke?

    2) If motorbikers are pinned surrounded by cages/cars, the heat from your car/cage engines and even exhaust pipes radiates around your vehicle, hence, the biker absorbs all these. Remember bikers do not have air conditioning.

    3) In intersections, some vehicles at the back fail to stop and hit motorbikes infront, so we usually use another car/cage as a shield against those vehicles from further back that may fail to stop and turn us into sandwich spreads. Having no vehicle up front also enables as to have more reaction choices for any problems that may arise from behind.

    4) Motorbikes usually accelerate faster than cage/cars, and being in between them will only add us as traffic obstacles for all of you. We will only be hit by unruly jeeps and buses that suddenly turn left or right on a go signal. If motorbikes are upfront, they clear the traffic faster, leaving less number of vehicles battling during a 'go' signal.

    I do see alot of riders are also stupid and reckless, but that does not give you the right to:
    1) Generalize
    2) Ridicule the group
    3) Maltreat the group while on the road

    ADIOS.
    Wow, this is long.....and irrelevant. :p

    There are two kinds of two wheel rider sir, the good and the bad. Of your'e a good rider, KUDOS to you! But kindly understand that in this thread, we are talking about those bad ones, which majority of them are.

    Peace and God bless. :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by leodawesome View Post
    Wow, this is long.....and irrelevant. :p

    There are two kinds of two wheel rider sir, the good and the bad. Of your'e a good rider, KUDOS to you! But kindly understand that in this thread, we are talking about those bad ones, which majority of them are.

    Peace and God bless. :D
    Oh really? Read how others have posted here. And you are right, there are bad ones and good ones both on cage/cars and even motorbikes. So why the unintelligent generalizing and bashing, and even ridiculing, and even belittling? Read other posts by other peeps here on this thread. Tsk tsk, sometimes I wonder if this so called car dirvers socialite types really had an education.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparton View Post
    wow galing neto. eye-opener din. mali talaga na sadyang harangin ng daan. ako naman napapa iling ako tuwing masikip sa side then may dadaan na motor. sabay 'whew' pag lumagpas na ang motor. then after 5 seconds may dadaan na naman!
    I know your concern, kasi nasabitan na rin car ko before. Pero bottom line is, nasa skill ng rider yan if magaling tumantya ng space, kung t*ng*, sasabit nga. And minsan it's about POV (Point of View), minsan kasi akala ko halos dikit na yung singit, pero nung sinukat ko, maluwag nga pala, remember, we are seated in our cars, usually low profile and on left side, our POV of the right,rear,and front of our car is skewed, mukhang kulang sa space pero maluwag pala yung nilusutan dun if you are actually there on that spot. Pero on our left side, ibang usapan yan, kitang kita natin yan eh :D

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    #1386
    kotse, SUV, van, jeep o motor kahit bisikleta ay may pasaway talaga, wala po iyan sa uri ng sasakyan na ginagamit nasa pag uugali po ng tao yan.

    kung nakita niyo na may pasaway na rider wag niyo na gipitin sa kalsada kasi lalabas na parehas lang kayo na naging pasaway. mahirap niyan nagipit si rider at sumabit sa sasakyan niyo tapos namatay si rider kahit wala kayo kasalanan mapipilitan pa kayo sagutin yung gastos nun alam niyo naman ang batas natin kahit na sila mali basta natepok may pananagutan ka pa din. ingat na lang sa pag drive mga tsikoteers sa halip na maghanap ng mga pasaway na rider sa kalsada itutok na lang ang atensyon sa pagmamaneho para iwas disgrasya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SerialMaus View Post
    I know your concern, kasi nasabitan na rin car ko before. Pero bottom line is, nasa skill ng rider yan if magaling tumantya ng space, kung t*ng*, sasabit nga. And minsan it's about POV (Point of View), minsan kasi akala ko halos dikit na yung singit, pero nung sinukat ko, maluwag nga pala, remember, we are seated in our cars, usually low profile and on left side, our POV of the right,rear,and front of our car is skewed, mukhang kulang sa space pero maluwag pala yung nilusutan dun if you are actually there on that spot. Pero on our left side, ibang usapan yan, kitang kita natin yan eh :D
    I'm not exactly anonymous so allow to allow me to establish where I'm coming from....

    I've been riding bikes for over 15 years from 50cc to 1000cc. I enjoy riding and the "brotherhood" that comes with it. I have been involved in the motorcycle industry where my goal has been to promote the safe use of motorcycle for business or pleasure. And I also am a car owner ....

    But,,,!

    Your post seems to take the cudgels for what uyou believe is unfair treatment of motorcycle riders. As a rider, if you demand equal treatment on the road.... you should also give equal treatment to your ride.

    Not because a bike is capable of things a car is not.. e.g. filtering, making singit on the right etc does not make it the right thing to do. Yes.. the rider may be good in estimating the space as passable.. but you already affirmed that for car drivers this may not be evident and may not be able to react properly. Why put yourself in a position of a possible accident?

    Case in point.. just an hour ago as I was turning right from Samat to Shaw in Mandaluyong..(for those who know this corner..it is a point where cars are merging.. so one looks at the left to slowly merge).. a couple on a motorcycle squeezed thru on my left.... and nakalusot naman.. on my part..I kinda expect that being a rider myself.. but waht about car drivers who are not bikers?

    In regards to your post about being boxed in and absorbing the heat from cars around you... well thats part of the pachage when you adopt a biker lifestyle.. you cant have your cake and eat it too.... and a ventilated riding jacket works too.....

    Haba na ng post ko....

    In summary respect on the road is earned not demanded... you would be blind not to realize that 90% (and I'm being generous..) of riders on the road do not display the right road courtesy or driving style. So statments on this thread are for them.....

    I monitor this thread everyday... I'm a rider... I dont get offended..because I know im not one of them.. if you are not.. you shouldnt be offended too....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snake1 View Post
    I'm not exactly anonymous so allow to allow me to establish where I'm coming from....

    I've been riding bikes for over 15 years from 50cc to 1000cc. I enjoy riding and the "brotherhood" that comes with it. I have been involved in the motorcycle industry where my goal has been to promote the safe use of motorcycle for business or pleasure. And I also am a car owner ....

    But,,,!

    Your post seems to take the cudgels for what uyou believe is unfair treatment of motorcycle riders. As a rider, if you demand equal treatment on the road.... you should also give equal treatment to your ride.

    Not because a bike is capable of things a car is not.. e.g. filtering, making singit on the right etc does not make it the right thing to do. Yes.. the rider may be good in estimating the space as passable.. but you already affirmed that for car drivers this may not be evident and may not be able to react properly. Why put yourself in a position of a possible accident?

    Case in point.. just an hour ago as I was turning right from Samat to Shaw in Mandaluyong..(for those who know this corner..it is a point where cars are merging.. so one looks at the left to slowly merge).. a couple on a motorcycle squeezed thru on my left.... and nakalusot naman.. on my part..I kinda expect that being a rider myself.. but waht about car drivers who are not bikers?

    In regards to your post about being boxed in and absorbing the heat from cars around you... well thats part of the pachage when you adopt a biker lifestyle.. you cant have your cake and eat it too.... and a ventilated riding jacket works too.....

    Haba na ng post ko....

    In summary respect on the road is earned not demanded... you would be blind not to realize that 90% (and I'm being generous..) of riders on the road do not display the right road courtesy or driving style. So statments on this thread are for them.....

    I monitor this thread everyday... I'm a rider... I dont get offended..because I know im not one of them.. if you are not.. you shouldnt be offended too....
    Agree on this. Most motorcycle riders demand that they should be treated fairly in the roads like 4 wheels. But 80-90% of them don't act like what they want other motorists to treat them. 2 most evident actions are:

    1. Squeezing in between and on the sides of cars, AFAIK, this SHOULD be a violation. (please correct me if im wrong)
    2. Acting like they are just pedestrians. (crossing in the pedestrian lanes while stoplight is at red, or occupying sidewalks, etc)

    Other than those 2, all other annoying things that 2 wheel drivers do like cutting your lane, counterflowing, etc., are norms of all types of vehicles including 4 wheel drivers too, so i learned to accept them.

    Im also a rider myself, and I practice what I preach. The bitter part of it was that it makes me more mad seeing reckless 2 wheel riders doing what Im trying not to do, as if its just normal and OK....Well, in our culture now, sadly, it is normal and OK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leodawesome View Post
    Agree on this. Most motorcycle riders demand that they should be treated fairly in the roads like 4 wheels. But 80-90% of them don't act like what they want other motorists to treat them. 2 most evident actions are:

    1. Squeezing in between and on the sides of cars, AFAIK, this SHOULD be a violation. (please correct me if im wrong)
    2. Acting like they are just pedestrians. (crossing in the pedestrian lanes while stoplight is at red, or occupying sidewalks, etc)

    Other than those 2, all other annoying things that 2 wheel drivers do like cutting your lane, counterflowing, etc., are norms of all types of vehicles including 4 wheel drivers too, so i learned to accept them.

    Im also a rider myself, and I practice what I preach. The bitter part of it was that it makes me more mad seeing reckless 2 wheel riders doing what Im trying not to do, as if its just normal and OK....Well, in our culture now, sadly, it is normal and OK.


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    No. 1 on your list is called lane splitting, it is a violation which sadly is not enforced nowadays because traffic enforcers themselves don't know a lot about the traffic laws they were tasked to enforce.

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    What you dont know wont hurt you.

    Bakit di ito subukan ng mga motorcycle haters.

    1. Ilista niyo mga reklamo niyo sa mga Riders
    2. Mag maneho kayo ng motor
    3. Huwag niyong gagawin lahat ng nasa list niyo
    4. Goodluck

    btw isa sa mga natutunan ko sa buhay "huwag mang huhusga lalo na kung hindi ko naman talaga naiintindihan at alam ang buong pangyayari"

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    sana lahat ng nagsasabi ng maganda sa mga nagmomotor sana kayo lagi nakakasabay ko sa daan araw araw, kulang kayo sa bilang kahit ano pang sabihin nyo maganda matatabunan lang ng mga ibang balasubas na nagmomotor, barkada din nyo naman un iba dyan, pakisabihan nyo nalang...naniniwala pa din ako sa nabasa ko nun sa 1000 nagmomotor isa lang matino dyan, di magbabago un opinyon ko un

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vstargazer View Post
    What you dont know wont hurt you.

    Bakit di ito subukan ng mga motorcycle haters.

    1. Ilista niyo mga reklamo niyo sa mga Riders
    2. Mag maneho kayo ng motor
    3. Huwag niyong gagawin lahat ng nasa list niyo
    4. Goodluck

    btw isa sa mga natutunan ko sa buhay "huwag mang huhusga lalo na kung hindi ko naman talaga naiintindihan at alam ang buong pangyayari"
    Since you bosted this here.. I'm assumiing that you believe we are motorcyle haters here....

    I rest my case with my post....

    Been there.. done that... still doing the right thing....

    There is simply no excuse for the lack of road courtesy from bikers or cagers....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snake1 View Post
    Since you bosted this here.. I'm assumiing that you believe we are motorcyle haters here....

    I rest my case with my post....

    Been there.. done that... still doing the right thing....

    There is simply no excuse for the lack of road courtesy from bikers or cagers....
    I agree, i still use my bike once in a while and i still drive it like i drive a cage. Mas attentive p nga ako dahil takot ako madisgrasya. Wala lang talagang discipline and consideration karamihan ng rider kaya kinakainisan.

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    simple lang naman ang courtesy na gusto ng "cagers" sa bikes e.

    ingatan ang sasakyan ninyo tulad ng pag ingat nila sa sasakyan nila. singit ng singit kasi pagtinamaan nila puede nilang takbuhan.

    ito mga reklamo ko sa mga nakamotor dito sa amin (to make things clear i also have a motorcycle but i like using my car more):

    1. di gumagamit ng signal lights, may clutch o wala, wala akong paki cos you should signal before you turn.
    2. pormado ang motor pero walang headlights/brake light ( i went to a restaurant approx. 5kms, and counted 18 bikes and trikes without headlights)
    3. overtake kahit saan. di porket libre ang kanan puede.
    4. magkwe-kwentuhan habang nag momotor. yung parallel sila tapos ambagal ng takbo.
    5. sinusunod ang racing line kahit masikip ang kalsada. nakngtokwa talaga.
    6. yung mga nagte-text habang nag-mamaneho (muntik na ko ma rear end dati kasi busy sya magtext. nung bumusina ako nataranta)
    7. mga biglang u-turn hi way man o hindi. ganun din sa biglang merge sa traffic from the side roads.

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    Yung singit ng singit din tapos kapag halos mahagip mo, dahil biglang sumalaksak sa harap mo, eh sila pa ang galit.

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    I both ride and drive but I still think that most riders really do not care for road rules and think they are excempted from following the law. There is simply no excuse for not observing proper road courtesy and discipline.

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    I am a rider and a driver too.

    May konting advantage lang ng konti yung mga tulad ko na nakaranas magmaneho ng motor at kotse dahil naiintidihan natin yung saloobin ng mga nakamotor kung tayo ay naka kotse at ng mga naka kotse kung tayo ay nakamotor.

    Naiinis ako sa mga nakamotor? Oo. Naka kotse man ako or naka motor nababadtrip pa rin ako sa kanila. Not because naka motor sila dahil dun sa ugali ng nagmamaneho ng motor.

    Nabubuwisit ba ako sa mga nakakotse? Aba'y syempre. Nandyan yung mag counterflow tapos biglang sisingit sa lane mo ng wala man lang senyas.

    What am trying to say is, mapa kotse man or motor talagang madaming pasaway. Nagkataon lang na ito'y isang Car Forum kaya ang hinanakit ng mga naka kotse ang nananaig.

    Try to go sa isang motorcycle forum, nagegeneralize din naman ang mga cagers dun. Na tipong lahat ng nakakotse eh matapobre at nangigipit sa mga nakamotor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vstargazer View Post
    What you dont know wont hurt you.

    Bakit di ito subukan ng mga motorcycle haters.

    1. Ilista niyo mga reklamo niyo sa mga Riders
    2. Mag maneho kayo ng motor
    3. Huwag niyong gagawin lahat ng nasa list niyo
    4. Goodluck

    btw isa sa mga natutunan ko sa buhay "huwag mang huhusga lalo na kung hindi ko naman talaga naiintindihan at alam ang buong pangyayari"
    Hindi yung motor o kotse ang may problema, yung nagmamaneho ng wala sa tama ang problema.

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    Lane splitting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Lane Splitting: It is legal in most countries, this is done while traffic is flowing/moving, filtering is different but both are legal in most areas, this is done while traffic is jammed/stopped hence the term 'filtering through'. Why? Because it depends on the road infrastructure a country has. Now reflect: how wide are our roads? how disciplined are our cage drivers most notably the PUV's? how congested are our roads? But common sense applies, use this maneuver at your own risk, do it safely. If an accident happens, then you are liable. Simple, you do not have to hate the deed or the doer of the deed.

    Yes I agree, a lot are stupid/reckless drivers on 2 wheels but blame that on our driver's licensing system not the motorcycle or on all riders. That does not give us cage drivers the right to treat motorbikes like they do not have rights on the road. We do not have the right to mock them, and discriminate them. We do not have the right to generalize. We do not have the right to intentionally put them into a dangerous sistuation. Like for example, just because I was on a bike, a car behind me driven by a lady so pissed off in traffic, decided to run me over slowly while we are all stopped (I kid you not, I had to use the sidewalk to get out of harm's way and note we are both in the inner lane, just imagine how hard it was to get to the sidewalk, WTF road rage??? This lady is turning me into a sandwich spread between her shiny Civic and a flat bed truck infront of me, the images of my son and my wife flashed in my head so I dashed for the sidewalk). That kind of behaviour is a result of all these generalization, mocking, and belittling we are sowing against bikers.

    Case in point, yes I also agree that overtaking on the right is not proper, but actually not illegal as well unless motorcycles ride on the sidewalks which I do see every now and then (and have seen some get apprehended kudos to the traffic enforcer). Any vehicle can overtake on the right side, given that
    1) the vehicle on the left is very slow
    2) the vehicle on the left may be turning left
    3) the vehicle on the left is stopped

    but the one executing the maneuver must
    1) predict first if the vehicle on left side will not swerve to the right or make a right turn (definitely avoid corners and passing through on almost gutter area, causes a lot of hits between a cage turning right and a motorbike going straight passing on extreme right, this is what most cagers do hate and I also do not approve of this habit, but also take note cagers also do this stupid move)
    2) proceed carefully and slowly, mindful of sudden surprises like pedestrians from both right(from sidewalk) and left(covered from view by vehicles on the left)
    3) changing to right lane does not cause any problems on the vehicles on the right lane

    Again, I also agree on those sentiments like, 'siya na nga mali siya pa galit' kahit naman sa cages ganun din dami ko na na-encounter siya na mali siya pa maninigaw 'paliparin mo kotse mo!'. Kaya there's no sense in spreading hate on ALL motorcycles on such petty reasons.

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    so basically ang sinasabi mo dahil may mga balasubas din naman na nakakotse, bawal sila magreklamo dahil quits na? Thats the essence of democracy man.

    Saka stop justifying your actions, paano naging tama ang magovertake sa right? pano rin naging tama ang magoccupy ng pedestrian lane pag nakastop ang stoplight? saka paano rin naging tama ang pagsilong sa ilalim ng flyovers, na nasa innermost lane, sa EDSA, na isang highway, tuwing umuulan? paano rin naging tama ang sumingit sa linya sa parking sa mall? ijujustify mo pa eh, mali na nga kayo.

    saka pucha naman, ang reliable naman ng source mo, wikipedia, hahaha. well, bad news, illegal yan dito sa metro manila, so kahit anung justify mo dyan, mali ka.

Too many PASAWAY motorcycle RIDERS  on the street