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  1. Join Date
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    Naku, nagpatayan dahil lang sa parking tsk! tsk! magpa pasko pa naman

    2 restaurant owners kill each other over parking space

    By Marrah Erika Lesaba
    Inquirer Southern Luzon
    First Posted 12:44:00 12/11/2009

    Filed Under: Crime, shooting

    BATANGAS CITY – Two restaurant owners died after they shot each other in a fight over parking space at a restaurant in Nasugbu, Batangas, late Thursday night, a police official said Friday.

    At 11:15 p.m., the two businessmen identified as Ronaldo Cabral and Francisco Credito had an argument over the parking area at Veranda Restobar owned by Cabral on Apacible Boulevard in Bucana village, said Senior Superintendent Jesus Gatchalian, Batangas police director.

    The altercation resulted in a fist fight but after the two were pacified and separated, Credito returned with a .45-caliber gun and shot Cabral, said Gatchalian.

    Cabral, owner of a restaurant named Jordan’s Grill, who was also armed with a 9-millimeter pistol, shot back at Credito, added Gatchalian.

    The two were rushed to the Nasugbu Doctor’s Hospital but were declared dead on arrival.

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    The article is confusing.... Cabral is the owner of both Veranda Restobar and Jordan's Grill? What does Credito own then?

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    Good news nga to e, nabawasan ng irresponsible gun owners

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    This is bad. Over a parking slot?

    Condolence po sa mga naulila.

    o.t. Madami nang pagkakataon na inunahan ako sa parking slot habang punong puno ang parking area. Hindi ko na lang pinapansin kasi, para sa'kin, mabababang level ng isip ang mga ganun. Kahit pa napakamahal ng auto nila, or may mataas silang pinag-aralan or katungkulan. Para sa'kin utak ipis sila.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frake View Post
    This is bad. Over a parking slot?

    Condolence po sa mga naulila.

    o.t. Madami nang pagkakataon na inunahan ako sa parking slot habang punong puno ang parking area. Hindi ko na lang pinapansin kasi, para sa'kin, mabababang level ng isip ang mga ganun. Kahit pa napakamahal ng auto nila, or may mataas silang pinag-aralan or katungkulan. Para sa'kin utak ipis sila.

    Daig pa nyan ang walang pinag aralan sir. Kase kung walang pinag aralan maiintindihan mo sya eh. Tama yung di na lang sila pinapansin. tignan mo na lang pag baba at ngitian

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    What a waste of















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    maganda yung ganyan, parehas armed para wala agrabiyado. at least ngayon tahimik na sila parehas kaya lang kawawa rin yung nasa katwiran dyan.

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    hehehe... parehas mayabang, nagsuntukan pa pala muna bago nagbarilan.
    Ano sila action star?

    mabuti yang ganyan, at least walang inosenteng nadamay sa ka-U|0|*n nung dalawang unggoy!

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    Yan ang sinasabi ko e. Even if you're better at unarmed combat, di papayag yung kabila na na-agrabyado mo sila, babawi yan nang di na patas... bubunot na ng baril.

    Dapat kung mano-mano lang pag natalo ka di tanggapin mo as a man di ba? Ngayong panahon na to wala nang ganon, marami nang traydor kung lumaban.

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    Ano to? Mga may-ari ng magkatabing restaurants? Sila-sila lang ang nagbarilan sa isa't-isa?

    Yung mga baril nila ngayon, di nagamit laban sa magnanakaw o holdaper, o kung ano mang kriminal. Sila-sila ring mga businessman na gun owners ang nagbaril at nagpatay sa isa't-isa.

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    Kasalanan ito nung Credito. Natalo siguro sa suntukan. Bumalik to shoot Cabral. Buti na lang may baril din si Cabral at naisama nya sa kamatayan si Credito. hehehe.

    All in all, it was a good fight. It's rare that a fair fight like this happens during altercations. Ang galing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by frake View Post
    This is bad. Over a parking slot?

    Condolence po sa mga naulila.

    o.t. Madami nang pagkakataon na inunahan ako sa parking slot habang punong puno ang parking area. Hindi ko na lang pinapansin kasi, para sa'kin, mabababang level ng isip ang mga ganun. Kahit pa napakamahal ng auto nila, or may mataas silang pinag-aralan or katungkulan. Para sa'kin utak ipis sila.
    Sir, idol kita. Di ko ata kayang tiisin mga ganun tao. I will walk away but they will hear from me. Pagsasabihan ko at the least.
    A few years ago punuan parking sa Megamall, and I had a chance to park in an available slot since I was the only car it that lane. Kaso me nakatayo na binata. Pinababa sya ng tatay niya & tumayo dun sa parking slot at hinarang ako. Sa kanila daw yung parking kasi sila daw una nakakita. Pero ang tatay niya with the car, nasa kabilang lane pa.
    Tama ba yun?
    Para walang away, umatras ako, minura ko na lang & tinanong ko kung kotse siya, kasi siya ang nakaparada sa slot.
    Haaay!

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    The moral of the story: A cooler head means longer life.

    My sympathies to the families that they left behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by busdriver View Post
    A few years ago punuan parking sa Megamall, and I had a chance to park in an available slot since I was the only car it that lane. Kaso me nakatayo na binata. Pinababa sya ng tatay niya & tumayo dun sa parking slot at hinarang ako. Sa kanila daw yung parking kasi sila daw una nakakita. Pero ang tatay niya with the car, nasa kabilang lane pa.
    Tama ba yun?
    Para walang away, umatras ako, minura ko na lang & tinanong ko kung kotse siya, kasi siya ang nakaparada sa slot.
    Haaay!
    Yup, that was still fair.

    Wala naman kasing rule na dapat nakasakay ka sa kotse pag maghahanap ka ng parking space. Wala yang pinagkaiba dun sa grocery na pumipila na kaagad yung anak niya, habang yung nanay eh malayo pa yung pushcart. Wala namang sinabi na bawal pumila pag wala kang pushcart.

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    Tungkol naman dun sa nagbarilan. Ganyan talaga kalimitan pag meron kang baril. Normally mayabang ka, at feeling mo wala kang sasantohin.

    Ako, wala akong baril. Pero yan ang pansin ko sa mga may baril. Matatapang at siga!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horsepower View Post
    Kasalanan ito nung Credito. Natalo siguro sa suntukan. Bumalik to shoot Cabral. Buti na lang may baril din si Cabral at naisama nya sa kamatayan si Credito. hehehe.

    All in all, it was a good fight. It's rare that a fair fight like this happens during altercations. Ang galing!

    Palitan ng putok. Parang sine!......

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    Quote Originally Posted by EL Chicane View Post
    Tungkol naman dun sa nagbarilan. Ganyan talaga kalimitan pag meron kang baril. Normally mayabang ka, at feeling mo wala kang sasantohin.

    Ako, wala akong baril. Pero yan ang pansin ko sa mga may baril. Matatapang at siga!

    Totoo yan. May matandang neighbor kami dati, walang bukambibig kundi yung baril nya.....panakot. May konting problema lang maririnig mo......."Tangna! Kunin mo nga yung baril ko!"

    Tapang ano?

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    Gun owners should first be asked this question - "Are you ready to kill another human being?" before owning a gun.

    Marami kasi pang ego bloat with "security" and "defense" as excuses for owning a gun. In some cases "practical shooting" lang daw yet they keep guns inside their cars.

    So kung handa ka ng pumatay ng tao...keep a gun.

    and I guess these two restaurant owners were ready to be killers. condolence to the families.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chua_riwap View Post
    Totoo yan. May matandang neighbor kami dati, walang bukambibig kundi yung baril nya.....panakot. May konting problema lang maririnig mo......."Tangna! Kunin mo nga yung baril ko!"

    Tapang ano?
    Of course, as I've said before, all generalizations are false.

    Siguro sa sampung kapitbahay mo, isa ang mayabang at tatlo dun ang tahimik lang at di nagsasalita pero may mga baril din sila.

    I've even heard of one poster who didn't know his officemate and boss were gun owners until they saw each other at the gunshow. Ang problema kasi, yung mga mayayabang lang talaga ang nababalita o napapansin.

    Most gun owners here in our subdivision are responsible. Yung kapitbahay ko nga di ko alam na meron until someone tried to rob them. May isang putok ako narinig tapos nagkagulo na. He said he shot the robber pero nakatakbo pa rin and he couldn't get another shot dahil tumakbo yung criminal and he might miss and accidentally shoot the other neighbors' houses if he missed.

    After all, you'd loose one important element if everyone in your place knew you had a gun; they'd be well-prepared if they decide to do harm to you or your loved ones.

    Sabi nga sa alien vs predator: It's the same principle as a condom, it's better to have one and not need it than need it and not have one.

    Di bale, from the looks of things mukhang dahan-dahan nang nauubos yung mga irresponsible gun owners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by praetor91313 View Post
    Di bale, from the looks of things mukhang dahan-dahan nang nauubos yung mga irresponsible gun owners.
    Well, magkaka-alaman lang kung sino talaga ang mga "irresponsible" kapag sila mismo ang napunta sa isang tight situation. Tulad niyang dalawang nagbarilan sa parking space. Kung hindi siya sinuntok nung kaaway niya, hindi niya kukunin yung baril niya para gumanti. Usually, pag-na-agrabyado ang isang taong may baril, nagdadalawang-isip na yan kung bubunutin niya yung baril niya o hindi. Hindi mo masasabi yan, hangga't hindi ka napupunta sa ganyang sitwasyon.

    Parang kagaya yan ni Luke Skywalker dun sa "Return of the Jedi". Hindi ba't dun sa huling eksena, inaasar siya nung Emperor? Pero cool lang siya nung una. Sabi niya kay Darth Vader, "I will not fight you, father." at nagtago pa siya kahit hinahamon sya. Pero ano ang nangyari nung huli? Hindi ba't pinutulan din niya ng kamay yung tatay niya dahil nagdilim na ang paningin niya? Papatayin na sana niya si Darth kung hindi lang siya nahimasmasan. Ilang "responsible" gun owners ang kayang mag-pigil tulad ni Luke ??????? Hindi naman siya magiging ganung katapang kung wala siyang light saber, diba?

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