Terror at Gateway

**mark_t** · July 12th, 2009 04:59 PM

Magtataka ka kung bakit hindi pulis ang kinukursunada nila,
dapat off duty policeman ang ang i harrass nila.

Dito sa kalsada namin lahat ng nagyabang sa tapat ng bahay
ng pulis nakuha nila hinahanap nila.

"Dahil daw sila sa hospital."

**shadow** · July 13th, 2009 01:49 PM

ano na kaya ang update?

**rpacis** · July 13th, 2009 02:22 PM

Ugh! This is a little close to home dahil sa Gateway ako nagpa-park araw araw... May balita na ba sa reklamo? I sure wouldn't want to come across this guy while entering/leaving Gateway.

**Horsepower** · July 13th, 2009 06:04 PM

[SIZE="3"]Actually, as civilians, we have the right to arrest anyone caught doing a crime — even without a warrant (obviously), IIRC, it's in the Phil Consti and it's called Citizen's Arrest. Ergo, a security guard has the right to restrain and arrest an offender such as that man because it was committed in his presence. Natakot lang sya (which is stupid because he's also armed).

His duty is to secure the establishment and its occupants. He's a failure. He should be fired for being useless (also yung tga Gateway!).

Marami din pulis na walang alam sa constitution. Dapat siguro may abogado kada precinct (or yung mga naaresto i-hold muna sa isang holding facility habang nirereview ng local central law office kung ano ang mga pwedeng ikaso). Too many criminals like these have gone scot-free because of incorrect charges. WTF! Bakit di ito naiisip ng mga authorities???

Masyadong light ang charges sa VP ng ama na yan. Dapat kasama ang Grave threats, Physical abuse (and/or assault) and Coercion sa mga kaso. AFAIR, hindi ito isinama based from the initial news reports.[/SIZE]

**batang_raon14** · July 13th, 2009 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by Horsepower

[SIZE="3"]Marami din pulis na walang alam sa constitution. Dapat siguro may abogado kada precinct (or yung mga naaresto i-hold muna sa isang holding facility habang nirereview ng local central law office kung ano ang mga pwedeng ikaso). Too many criminals like these have gone scot-free because of incorrect charges. WTF! Bakit di ito naiisip ng mga authorities???[/SIZE]

Hmm, kung gawin nila ito Sir, baka ang mga kapulisan pa po natin ang maaresto imbis na yung mga akusado. Mga sablay din kasi with regards to SOP yung iba.

**aNthraxx** · July 13th, 2009 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by SaberRider

A security guard doesn't have the authority to arrest anyone. Maski nga lang pag detain eh conditional pa unless talaga grave yung crime na ginawa ng culprit. Pero it's sheer suicide that you engage in a shootout sa loob ng isang gas station. I constantly have my gun with me pero tago sa public. Minsan nga gasgas na yung side ng body ko dahil sa handgun ko pero ok lang, mas magandang concealed or almost concealed siya kaysa open sa public. Tama naman ang ginawa ng sekyu at inaawat kaysa magkabarilan. Better off with just a bruised body than a dead one, right.

It's people like him that give gun owners a bad name. There were instances in my life that I got into heated arguments lalo na when I'm on the road. I always have the presence of mind na pag umiinit na ang ulo ko to put aside my gun and even the magazines under my seat or lock it away sa glove compartment baka kasi kung ano pa ang maisip ko at ma tempt kong gawin.

This is one of my delima why i dont carry a gun, my friends put forth arguments that "mas lalo ka nga mahinahun" when theres a highly stressed confrontation because you have a gun. Im close to buying that but not yet at the moment. Im just at the level where i still cant trust myself in owning one, added the fact that i cant imagine being locked up and not be with my family because of a lapse of judgement or if i accidentaly shoot somebody out of anger.

On the other hand its tough times and i wonder if its not necessry to own one for protections purposes especially to protect your family...until now im still undecided on this matter.

**aNthraxx** · July 13th, 2009 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by SaberRider

A security guard doesn't have the authority to arrest anyone. Maski nga lang pag detain eh conditional pa unless talaga grave yung crime na ginawa ng culprit. Pero it's sheer suicide that you engage in a shootout sa loob ng isang gas station. I constantly have my gun with me pero tago sa public. Tama naman ang ginawa ng sekyu at inaawat kaysa magkabarilan. Better off with just a bruised body than a dead one, right.

The security guard may detain a suspect pending the authorities arrival, but IMO he did the right thing in this situation. Even law enforcement officers (trained ones) dont really draw out thier guns unless they intend to use it and its always better to use cooler heads in diffusing situations like this rather than lock heads with an extremely agitated gun totting person. As saber rider said its a gas station, a gun may not be the only one to go off if a fire fight insued.

**Autobeat** · July 13th, 2009 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by afrasay

Honestly, if I were in the TS's shoes I would have run down that guy with drawn gun pointed at me.

Thought of the same thing. Legal na self defense naman ito, right? Basta as soon as yung isang civilian naghawak na ng baril, any and all means of self defense puwede na natin gawin laban sa kanila?

Originally Posted by s_quilicot

Hindi kaya siya yung nasa TV patrol ngayong gabi na nanakal ng gasoline boy na may sukbit na baril?

Meron bang news video links nito?

**s_quilicot** · July 13th, 2009 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by Autobeat

Thought of the same thing. Legal na self defense naman ito, right? Basta as soon as yung isang civilian naghawak na ng baril, any and all means of self defense puwede na natin gawin laban sa kanila?

Meron bang news video links nito?

Try mo i-google bro. my internet right now is kind F*cked up.