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  1. Join Date
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    Rant lang guys.

    After the election natuwa ako, akala ko mababawasan na ang road reblocking / wasak ng daan.

    Lalo ata dumami ngayon, on my usual route 80% ata hinuhukay and majority of these roads are maayos pa.

    ang epekto traffic, wala pa nga pasok mga students. what more kung pasukan na.

    i can't think of any logical reason why do we need to destroy a good paved road tapos sesementuhin lang din.

    can anyone shed a light for me to understand.

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    they're given a set budget every year

    they have to spend it or they'll get a smaller budget the following year

    that's why they have to keep finding ways to spend all that money

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    In the case of some roads, pina-hold lang ang reblocking until after elections because it's bad for the image of the politico seeking reelection. I'm sure of this because our excavation permit for the water lines in one project was put on hold for so long because the mayor wanted no diggings during election. The irritating issue is if they (the LGU) frakking granted all the permits that were applied for on time instead of dilly-dallying (hint hint), we could have excavated and added the needed water lines with MWSS even BEFORE they started reblocking the road (taena, we started the project and applying for the necessary permits over a year before they even did the reblocking).

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    Coordinating these road work is just too complicated for the folks at city hall to do. So they don't. They just let the contractors work at it one at a time. Which is also why you have a perfectly fine road with a lamppost in the middle of it!

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    yan daw ung ROADWAY TO HELL hehehe,

    asan na ba si MMDA tolentino, bakit hindi sha nag-react sa ganitong gawain sa Gov.?

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    Kung kailangan gastusin yung budget, bakit hindi nila gawin yung mga sirang sira na daan?

    Eh dito samin, Del Monte at Quezon Avenue, bagong aspalto lang last year yun, kinaskas na naman...

    Samantala yung D.Tuazon dito samin, tadtad na ng lubak hindi man lang maayos ayos.

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    What I find really annoying is how most contractors do a shoddy job at repaving what was a perfectly-good road before. Take for example the entry ramp to West Service Road which I have to pass daily. It was alright last year. Maynilad excavated it and their contractors repaved it unevenly. Then a few months later, they dug up the road again but this time, they didn't even bother to reseal the asphalt so there is now a small portion of just gravel.

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    the bottomline is money. i have dealt with government agencies before on a national and local level.

    nakabudget na yan for the year and pag hindi nagamit ang budget, it goes back to the national coffers. so the local politicians think that instead of putting it back into the taxpayers bin, gamitin na lang nila... and kikita pa sila.
    imagine if may at least 10% si mayor dyan..... at billions of pesos, it can easily rake millions.

    and what if in your district or locality, may dalawa o tatlong roads na pwedeng ipagawa maski ok pa..... so triple the millions.....

    daming nakikinabang dyan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manilablock View Post
    yan daw ung ROADWAY TO HELL hehehe,

    asan na ba si MMDA tolentino, bakit hindi sha nag-react sa ganitong gawain sa Gov.?
    DPWH or the local government does not directly coordinate with MMDA on this. Parati ngang nagbabangaan ang MMDA and DPWH pagdating sa mga major thoroughfare repairs eh.

    while MMDA is more concerned on the traffic and management of NCR's resources, DPWH's mandate is the creation and improvement of roads and bridges.

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    So DPWH and LGUs ang nakikinabang sa mga reblocking na yan?

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    ang nakakabwisit at hindi ko lubos maisip eh kung bakit ang nirereblock nila eh yung mga maayos pa samantalang yung mga katabi at mga sumunod na blocks yun ang mga sira-sira na yun pa ang hindi nila ginagalaw, ampft!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1D4LV View Post
    the bottomline is money. i have dealt with government agencies before on a national and local level.

    nakabudget na yan for the year and pag hindi nagamit ang budget, it goes back to the national coffers. so the local politicians think that instead of putting it back into the taxpayers bin, gamitin na lang nila... and kikita pa sila.
    imagine if may at least 10% si mayor dyan..... at billions of pesos, it can easily rake millions.

    and what if in your district or locality, may dalawa o tatlong roads na pwedeng ipagawa maski ok pa..... so triple the millions.....

    daming nakikinabang dyan.

    yep like i said


    they're given a set budget every year

    they have to spend it or they'll get a smaller budget the following year

    that's why they have to keep finding ways to spend all that money

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    ang naaasar ako yung maynilad.
    pag nagbakbak ng kunkreto minsan aspalto ba lang yung pinapalit.
    sinementohan ng maganda itong 7th avenue. nagbakbak sinementuhan nila ulit pero yung tubig tumatagas. i see a lubak in the future.
    prior sana nung mag-ayos ng kalye, kinumpuni na nila yung mga sira.
    sayang pera! inutil talaga mga taong ito dinaig pa ang anay.

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    Nakakapagtaka talaga yang mga hinayupak na yan.

    Kung alin pa yung matino, yun ang babakbakin. Tapos hindi pa pantay yung dugsungan. Kaya ang resulta, mas malubak.

    At kung ano pa yung makinis na daan, yun pa yung ina-aspaltuhan. Weird!

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    True the road going to Antipolo is perfectly good it's all asphalt and it's not even damaged but they're destroying it to make it cement. I think they are doing it to say it's a project of a Mayor, Senator or whoever just to say that they are doing something. COMPLETE WASTE OF TAX MONEY!

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    Specially those who destroy old asphalt to make a cement road which is UNEVEN! I hate those and why not use the money for Commonwealth road or the Q.C. Circle which is full of potholes instead of perfectly good roads

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    [Sarcasm]

    Uhummmmm.... It's a democracy.... you get the fruit of seeds sown during the election period :seesaw: :furious:

    [/Sarcasm]

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    heard on the radio na hirap mag coordinate ang dpwh, manila waters, etc. kaya minsan kahit katatapos pa lang ng dpwh, babakbakin naman ng manila waters para lagyan ng tubo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BratPAQ View Post
    heard on the radio na hirap mag coordinate ang dpwh, manila waters, etc. kaya minsan kahit katatapos pa lang ng dpwh, babakbakin naman ng manila waters para lagyan ng tubo.
    Heard this too, so meaning, the problem is with the local government, because they just queue the scheduled reblockings and pipelayings without coordination.

    One example here is in E.Rod near cubao...

    The road has been asphalted with 2 layers but the manhole covers are not raised so the depressed manhole cover is a big pothole.

    Few weeks later the PLDT/Maynilad will level the area by removing the asphalt and putting their own asphalt after the manhole cover has been raised.

    Result is a big "hump" over the flat asphalt since it's their trademark not to level their new asphalt with the previous one.

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    It makes you wonder how their bosses/managers/supervisors got to be in their positions if they can't even coordinate.

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