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    Quote Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow View Post
    Pasok ba sa self defense?

    Lot of crazies out there, katakot.

    Choose your battles talaga, hindi mo akalain hindi ka na pala makakauwi.

    Somebody posted na act like you're getting something in your glove compartment? Double edged sword yan, what if may baril nakabangga mo? Tutuluyan ka na nyan since naka akma kana din na bubunot ng suklay mo.


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    murder yan cgurado. the fact the kumuha siya ng baril tapos lumabas at lumapit, premeditated na yung act.

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    Nasa TopGear fb na yung suspected owner ng kotse. READ: owner pa lang ha not necessarily the shooter.

    It is time for some paraffin test.

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    ^ Very irresponsible for a page with almost 3 million followers to publish the guy's profile like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kai s. View Post
    ^ Very irresponsible for a page with almost 3 million followers to publish the guy's profile like that.
    What is irresponsible with that? It says the car was traced to a particular account. Nothing else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew_Alcindor View Post
    What is irresponsible with that? It says the car was traced to a particular account. Nothing else.
    Don't get me wrong ah, sobrang nakakagalit yung video. That guy deserves a long, drawn-out punishment. But the millions of page likers are out for blood. Nakabasa ka na ba ng comment thread dun sa ganitong klaseng mga post? Yung tipong pati pamilya may death threat. It IS still a publication that should still be rooted in journalistic principles. Di pwedeng publish lang ng publish.

    "To be fair, we still don't have the facts with 100% certainty, so let's proceed with caution." -- AFTER they posted the guy's profile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kai s. View Post
    Don't get me wrong ah, sobrang nakakagalit yung video. That guy deserves a long, drawn-out punishment. But the millions of page likers are out for blood. Nakabasa ka na ba ng comment thread dun sa ganitong klaseng mga post? Yung tipong pati pamilya may death threat. It IS still a publication that should still be rooted in journalistic principles. Di pwedeng publish lang ng publish.

    "To be fair, we still don't have the facts with 100% certainty, so let's proceed with caution." -- AFTER they posted the guy's profile.
    So educate me. What journalistic principle was violated?

    Print and TV news regularly mention names of crime suspects. Tell me what is the difference with this?

    I am all for due process but this has been happening eversince. Why raise your arm now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew_Alcindor View Post
    So educate me. What journalistic principle was violated?

    Print and TV news regularly mention names of crime suspects. Tell me what is the difference with this?

    I am all for due process but this has been happening eversince. Why raise your arm now?
    1) Re: journalistic principle: VERIFY before you publish. If they weren't 100 percent sure, they shouldn't have posted.


    2) Re: naming names: Yes, they name SUSPECTS. Those that are in custody or are at large but have warrants out for their arrest, or are persons of interest in an investigation.

    The very neutrally worded caption "So the Hyundai Eon with conduction sticker number MO3746 has been traced to this account: www.facebook.com/nestor.punzalan" very carefully does not mention that he is a suspect or is any way involved. No mention of the incident, in fact. Technically, I can't even accuse them of actually accusing him of anything. But do you think netizens wouldn't connect the dots?


    3) Re: difference: Thing is though, that consumers of social media and traditional media are wildly different. Seeing the video footage on your feed, with the freedom to rewatch, pause, zoom and freeze frame has a much more immense impact on an already highly strung audience -- compared with watching the cctv footage in a 2.5 minute report during primetime news by a comparatively relaxed audience.


    4) Re: why now: Because the editors of Topgear know their audience. They know what they put into motion by posting that.

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