Poor Hospital Access

[squala]

1. Quezon Memorial Medical Center, Katipunan

Coming from the opposite part of the road, you will have to go all the way underneath the flyover to make a U-turn, taking about an extra kilometer overall. There are no nearer U-turn slots available.

2. Medical City Pasig, Ortigas Ave.

From the other side of the street, the U-turn slot is all the way underneath the Ortigas flyover. Bad, there are slots nearer the hospital but U-turns are prohibited. Worse, if you decide to make a right at the street fronting the Valle Verde 5 main gate, you will have to go all the way beyond the gate itself, which is halfway between the Ortigas and J. Vargas intersections. Worst, a left-turn is allowed at the Meralco complex beside it.




It's certainly pathetic how inconvenient it is to get to the hospital from the road across it. I'm sure there are other hospitals in Metro Manila that are like this also. The distance is not the major issue here, but the extra time it will take to get to the emergency room. Shaving off even a few seconds from a typical hospital trip can save lives and further minimize DOAs.

If any of you have connections to the traffic department or LGU concerned, please take immediate action. I myself could do it but I don't know whom to approach and where to approach them.

[oldblue]

medical city:

kapag emergency all rules are off. you can just u-turn from eastbound ortigas to westbound. the enforcers allow this naman.

[Rediesel]

rules are there to be followed, if you really must take a u turn then do so to save a life, but be prepared to get a ticket.

being in an emergency is not an excuse to disregard traffic rules, you might be endangering others by doing so. and sometimes one man's emergency might not be an emergency at all, its subjective.

I know rules sometimes sucks, but rules are there for people to follow. Only solution I think is to petition the rule makers to amend the rule.

[squala]

rules are there to be followed, if you really must take a u turn then do so to save a life, but be prepared to get a ticket.

being in an emergency is not an excuse to disregard traffic rules, you might be endangering others by doing so. and sometimes one man's emergency might not be an emergency at all, its subjective.

I know rules sometimes sucks, but rules are there for people to follow. Only solution I think is to petition the rule makers to amend the rule.

This is pretty much stupid. If I have a relative figting for dear life and had to be rushed to the hospital, I will break any traffic rule so long as no other life is endangered. If an enforcer stops us and that person doesn't make it because of the apprehension, I just might take a life.

Bottom line is that there should be an exclusive U or left turn to easily access these hospitals. We're talking about human lives here.

[oldblue]

why not buy those magnetic revolving yellow lights na didikit sa bubong? I bought 1. kapag talaga emergency lalagay ko yun.

btw, legal ba yun

[herbularyo]

why not buy those magnetic revolving yellow lights na didikit sa bubong? I bought 1. kapag talaga emergency lalagay ko yun.

btw, legal ba yun

I don't think thats legal but in case of a "true" emergency I'm sure the enforcers will make an exception.

Di ba yong yellow blinkers are for utility vehicles lang esp sa airports?

[1D4LV]

This is pretty much stupid. If I have a relative figting for dear life and had to be rushed to the hospital, I will break any traffic rule so long as no other life is endangered. If an enforcer stops us and that person doesn't make it because of the apprehension, I just might take a life.

Bottom line is that there should be an exclusive U or left turn to easily access these hospitals. We're talking about human lives here.

i share your sentiments bro....lalo na kung life and death situation ang mangyayari. imagine making a U-Turn at C5 coming from EDSA going to Medical City if your baby/child is colored blue..

[OTEP]

Medyo abnormal nga yung no-u turn sa tapat ng St. Luke's pero kung emergency, at least hindi naman gaano unsafe kung mag-illegal u-turn ka dun at hindi ka gaano mapapalayo unlike sa ibang hospital na may center island na malaki at malayo ang ikot.

[Rediesel]

This is pretty much stupid. If I have a relative figting for dear life and had to be rushed to the hospital, I will break any traffic rule so long as no other life is endangered. If an enforcer stops us and that person doesn't make it because of the apprehension, I just might take a life.

Bottom line is that there should be an exclusive U or left turn to easily access these hospitals. We're talking about human lives here.

Mas stupid ang pananaw mo, bakit may minura ba ako? You can disagree with my post but to call my post stupid is something else.

Hindi ka ba marunong magbasa, kaya nga sinabi ko sa orig post ko na na do at your own risk.

[badsekktor]

rules are there to be followed, if you really must take a u turn then do so to save a life, but be prepared to get a ticket.

being in an emergency is not an excuse to disregard traffic rules, you might be endangering others by doing so. and sometimes one man's emergency might not be an emergency at all, its subjective.

I know rules sometimes sucks, but rules are there for people to follow. Only solution I think is to petition the rule makers to amend the rule.

I dont agree with you bro.... Just happened to me last monday around 1 am when my wife suddenly had stomach pains... that was the only time na umangal sa kin yon.... mahirap pala..... nung una medyo relax pa ko mag-drive but when every bump eh excruciating pain ang nararamdaman nya and medyo di na responsive sa mga tawag namin... what the heck! to hell with my license.... a couple of beating the red lights with lights flashing saka hazards on.... encountered an arsehole taxi driver.... na instead na padaanin kami since maluwag ang kalsada eh lalo pa kami hinarangan... so when i had the chance, forced the guy to the side... ang kupal talaga! mapapatay mo nga kung may oras para bumaba pero syempre kelangan ko muna madala sa ospital si esmi. another jeepney driver na hinarangan talaga ako even if nakita na naka-hazard at emergency so binaba ko yun driver at sinigawan.... since right then wala nako time makipag-argue.... my wife's life is on the line....

[squala]

Mas stupid ang pananaw mo, bakit may minura ba ako? You can disagree with my post but to call my post stupid is something else.

Hindi ka ba marunong magbasa, kaya nga sinabi ko sa orig post ko na na do at your own risk.

Please understand my post completely first before you whine. I wasn't referring to your post as stupid, but rather the fact that you have to accept a ticket if you violate a rule trying to rush someone to the hospital.

And if you're trying to reprimand me for any apparent bad-mouthing, another bad-mouthing, and a sarcastic one at that, isn certainly not the right way to do it. If you think I was offending you in any way, there's always the private message to clear things up. Obviously, this is a misunderstanding and if you've watched Babel, such a small thing can lead to universal chaos.

[Rediesel]

rules are there to be followed, if you really must take a u turn then do so to save a life, but be prepared to get a ticket.

being in an emergency is not an excuse to disregard traffic rules, you might be endangering others by doing so. and sometimes one man's emergency might not be an emergency at all, its subjective.

I know rules sometimes sucks, but rules are there for people to follow. Only solution I think is to petition the rule makers to amend the rule.

What is stupid in this post?

Stupid because you have to follow rules?

I posted IF YOU MUST TAKE A U TURN THEN DO SO TO SAVE A LIFE BUT BE PREPARED TO GET A TICKET.

What is wrong with this post if you violate a law then be prepared to deal with the consequences of your action. If some people think its stupid because rules don't favor them then I'm no longer wondering why the Phils is going to the dogs.

[dieselNUBI]

guys, hindi na poor hospital access ang pinag uusapan nyo.

pride and ego na.

please lang. if you dont have anything else good to say regarding the topic then dont.



ok back to regular program.

eto nga din napansin ko sa st. lukes hospital. in case of emergency eh hindi ka basta basta makakaliko. tough situation to be in case of an emergency.

[squala]

What is stupid in this post?

Stupid because you have to follow rules?

I posted IF YOU MUST TAKE A U TURN THEN DO SO TO SAVE A LIFE BUT BE PREPARED TO GET A TICKET.

What is wrong with this post if you violate a law then be prepared to deal with the consequences of your action. If some people think its stupid because rules don't favor them then I'm no longer wondering why the Phils is going to the dogs.

Stupid because if you follow the rule, you have a higher chance of DOA. Rules can be stupid because it could include a matter of life and death, if not self-interest (esp. money). Rules are meant to be broken if you're trying to save a life without harming another. Tickets should be out of the question in such circumstances.

I didn't call you stupid and I already clarified that. Now if you still can't understand my point and are still offended in some way, ewan ko na lang.

[temster]

Excuse me Rediesel, you're already getting out of hand. Squala may have sounded offensive to you but he's trying to explain himself saying it wasn't that way. Para kasing di ka nakikinig eh. Please end all smoke before they result into fire, ok?

[j_avonni]

Sa National Kidney naman, nasa likuran ang kanilang emergency room.

[OTEP]

Sa Quezon Avenue nagbukas sila ng extra u-turn slot for Capitol Medical.

[vinj]

1. Quezon Memorial Medical Center, Katipunan

Coming from the opposite part of the road, you will have to go all the way underneath the flyover to make a U-turn, taking about an extra kilometer overall. There are no nearer U-turn slots available.

If you were to compare this to the situation before where there was an open slot near the hospital, the traffic caused by having a u-turn slot open will probably make the trip to the hospital longer then going down half a km to make a u-turn... plus all the tricycles coming from Proj. 4 going to Cinco Hermanos will invade that portion of Katipunan C5 once again (another traffic stopper). The continuous traffic flow (where you can easily do 60-80kph safely in that vicinity) on the area by having no open slot may be better then opening up a slot that will most likely be used by none hospital/emergency goers 95% of the time.

My take is traffic build-up is a greater hinderance to an emergency then having to take a slightly longer route.

My .02

[laklak]

If you were to compare this to the situation before where there was an open slot near the hospital, the traffic caused by having a u-turn slot open will probably make the trip to the hospital longer then going down half a km to make a u-turn... plus all the tricycles coming from Proj. 4 going to Cinco Hermanos will invade that portion of Katipunan C5 once again (another traffic stopper). The continuous traffic flow (where you can easily do 60-80kph safely in that vicinity) on the area by having no open slot may be better then opening up a slot that will most likely be used by none hospital/emergency goers 95% of the time.

My take is traffic build-up is a greater hinderance to an emergency then having to take a slightly longer route.

My .02

my thoughts exactly. it all boils down to planning. If youve got a poorly planned hospital compound which wouldnt be able to handle adequate vehicle flow/volume, then youve got to find ways to ease the congestion. And the most logical way to do this is to use u-turn slots.

I have a friend who did a JBIC funded study (or JICA couldnt remember exactly which) with regards to U-turn slots, and they concluded that it this really eases traffic flow. FYI: there are quite a lot of Japan funded traffic lights found in the metro, that is why the Japanese agency wanted to know why it is spending money to fund these lights and we just end up not using them.

[incus]

1. Quezon Memorial Medical Center, Katipunan

Coming from the opposite part of the road, you will have to go all the way underneath the flyover to make a U-turn, taking about an extra kilometer overall. There are no nearer U-turn slots available.

That's Quirino Memorial Medical Center (formerly Labor Hospital) , yup you're right, the u-turn is more than a kilometer away !