Pasay City Ordinance regarding fender benders

**obet_carlos** · May 23rd, 2011 09:28 AM

mga sirs, tanong ko lang kung may nabangga na sa pasay city.. kasi last time kumuha kami ng police report eh nagkagulo gulo.. so here's the story:

we were parked at cartimar during a sunday so maraming tao.. aalis na kami, eh nakaharap yung kotse namin sa parking so paatras ako.. i was looking at the rear view mirror, may honda civic, then umandar, so umatras ako.. i was about to look at the side mirror then bang.. nabanga ko.. meron parking aid na walang ginawa.. sinabi pa niya na baka maaksidente pa siya kung lumapit siya sa kotse para katukin or something.. slight lang yung bangga nung civic, konteng gasgas lang kasi most of the damage was absorbed by my gf car's bumper.. vios.. pero medyo bago so gusto casa.. walang problem, i admitted it was my fault then i said na mag pa pulis report for insurance claims.. ang tagal namin nagantay ng police pero trafic aid lang dumating at pinasunod kami sa police station sa may cuneta.. kinuwento namin sa pulis yung nangyari.. so yun, ginawa kami ng pulis report.. tapos pinabalik kami the next day, dalhin daw namin yung estimate at proof of insurance before ibigay pulis report.. do they really need that? dati naman bigay lang kaagad.. sumunod lang kami kasi pulis.. then pictures ng bangga.. siyempre sila nagpicture.. siningil kami ng 300 per car.. so 600 binayad ko.. sobrang mahal pero nagcomply pa din kami.. they gave us a receipt na walang nakasulat na pasay or something.. yung nabibili lang sa bangketa.. sige lang.. since car ng gf ko, company car, siya yung pinalabas na nagdrive.. then pinaiwan sa amin yung license niya, kunin daw namin the next day pag kuha ng pulis report.. akala ko parang claim stub, yun pala ticket na (nalaman ko lang nung kukunin na yung license).. we even asked, "chief may babayaran pa ba kami?".. kasi libre naman yung pulis report sa pagkakaalam ko.. sabi niya wala.. ok na..

we came back the next day with the necessary papers.. binigay na samin yung pulis report.. then pinaclaim na samin yung license sa claiming section sa other side.. pinasamahan pa kami dun sa parang receptionist nila na lalaki, hindi man lang kami kinausap, wala man lang sinabi kaya bumalik kami.. kasi malay ba namin na dun yung claim.. sabi lang sundan.. so pagbalik namin sa claim section, binigay namin yung ticket.. nagaantay kami.. yung mga ibang kinuhanan ng license nandun, sinisingil, 250 or 500.. depende sa violation.. tapos nung sa amin na.. sabi 2k daw babayaran namin.. so medyo nagulat kami.. tinatawagan namin yun pulis kasi umalis na, ayaw kami kausapin.. we were bewildered kung bakit kami magbabayad.. wala naman kaming violation.. tapos may city ordinance sila dun, which goes something like this: "accident resulting to damaged property".. 2k.. parang wtf!? tama ba to? siyempre naginit na dugo ni gf.. medyo tinira na yung mga pulis.. parang kaya nawawalan kami ng respeto sa inyo.. eh may isang g*go na pulis, pinatulan pa yung gf ko.. nakipagsagutan pa.. ayaw talaga ibigay yung license, so iniwan namin.. and we were not paying 2k for a BS rule.. does this ordinance mean that is i accidentally rear ended my gate if i live in pasay, i would have to pay pasay city 2k? tapos when we came back, umalis na yung pulis na nag issue nung ticket..

we came back the following day, with some back up.. my mom had a piscal friend in pasay.. sabi nung piscal, kung ordinansa wala tayo magagawa, pero sumama siya to clarify it.. wala pang sinasabi yung piscal, nakita pa lang.. nagbatian pa lang, binigay na yung license ng gf ko.. ganun lang pala kasimple eh pinatagal pa.. sobrang lame nung PR nila.. akala mo sinong magagaling na mga pulis! ang ayos ayos ng pagsunod namin tapos mang g*go lang sila..

i just have a few questions:
1. what should really happen when makabanga ako?
2. how much should i pay? am i required to get the photos from the police?
3. does pasay really have this stupid ordinance? i mean mas mahal pa to kesa drinking under the influence and driving without a license..
4. do they need the proof of insurance and estimate?

**Ry_Tower** · May 23rd, 2011 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by obet_carlos

mga sirs, tanong ko lang kung may nabangga na sa pasay city.. kasi last time kumuha kami ng police report eh nagkagulo gulo.. so here's the story:

we were parked at cartimar during a sunday so maraming tao.. aalis na kami, eh nakaharap yung kotse namin sa parking so paatras ako.. i was looking at the rear view mirror, may honda civic, then umandar, so umatras ako.. i was about to look at the side mirror then bang.. nabanga ko.. meron parking aid na walang ginawa.. sinabi pa niya na baka maaksidente pa siya kung lumapit siya sa kotse para katukin or something.. slight lang yung bangga nung civic, konteng gasgas lang kasi most of the damage was absorbed by my gf car's bumper.. vios.. pero medyo bago so gusto casa.. walang problem, i admitted it was my fault then i said na mag pa pulis report for insurance claims.. ang tagal namin nagantay ng police pero trafic aid lang dumating at pinasunod kami sa police station sa may cuneta.. kinuwento namin sa pulis yung nangyari.. so yun, ginawa kami ng pulis report.. tapos pinabalik kami the next day, dalhin daw namin yung estimate at proof of insurance before ibigay pulis report.. do they really need that? dati naman bigay lang kaagad.. sumunod lang kami kasi pulis.. then pictures ng bangga.. siyempre sila nagpicture.. siningil kami ng 300 per car.. so 600 binayad ko.. sobrang mahal pero nagcomply pa din kami.. they gave us a receipt na walang nakasulat na pasay or something.. yung nabibili lang sa bangketa.. sige lang.. since car ng gf ko, company car, siya yung pinalabas na nagdrive.. then pinaiwan sa amin yung license niya, kunin daw namin the next day pag kuha ng pulis report.. akala ko parang claim stub, yun pala ticket na (nalaman ko lang nung kukunin na yung license).. we even asked, "chief may babayaran pa ba kami?".. kasi libre naman yung pulis report sa pagkakaalam ko.. sabi niya wala.. ok na..

we came back the next day with the necessary papers.. binigay na samin yung pulis report.. then pinaclaim na samin yung license sa claiming section sa other side.. pinasamahan pa kami dun sa parang receptionist nila na lalaki, hindi man lang kami kinausap, wala man lang sinabi kaya bumalik kami.. kasi malay ba namin na dun yung claim.. sabi lang sundan.. so pagbalik namin sa claim section, binigay namin yung ticket.. nagaantay kami.. yung mga ibang kinuhanan ng license nandun, sinisingil, 250 or 500.. depende sa violation.. tapos nung sa amin na.. sabi 2k daw babayaran namin.. so medyo nagulat kami.. tinatawagan namin yun pulis kasi umalis na, ayaw kami kausapin.. we were bewildered kung bakit kami magbabayad.. wala naman kaming violation.. tapos may city ordinance sila dun, which goes something like this: "accident resulting to damaged property".. 2k.. parang wtf!? tama ba to? siyempre naginit na dugo ni gf.. medyo tinira na yung mga pulis.. parang kaya nawawalan kami ng respeto sa inyo.. eh may isang g*go na pulis, pinatulan pa yung gf ko.. nakipagsagutan pa.. ayaw talaga ibigay yung license, so iniwan namin.. and we were not paying 2k for a BS rule.. does this ordinance mean that is i accidentally rear ended my gate if i live in pasay, i would have to pay pasay city 2k? tapos when we came back, umalis na yung pulis na nag issue nung ticket..

we came back the following day, with some back up.. my mom had a piscal friend in pasay.. sabi nung piscal, kung ordinansa wala tayo magagawa, pero sumama siya to clarify it.. wala pang sinasabi yung piscal, nakita pa lang.. nagbatian pa lang, binigay na yung license ng gf ko.. ganun lang pala kasimple eh pinatagal pa.. sobrang lame nung PR nila.. akala mo sinong magagaling na mga pulis! ang ayos ayos ng pagsunod namin tapos mang g*go lang sila..

i just have a few questions:
1. what should really happen when makabanga ako?
2. how much should i pay? am i required to get the photos from the police?
3. does pasay really have this stupid ordinance? i mean mas mahal pa to kesa drinking under the influence and driving without a license..
4. do they need the proof of insurance and estimate?

Have you tried calling the LTO hotline for queries? 9229061 - 66

**shadow** · May 23rd, 2011 09:46 AM

alam ko meron talagang traffic violation pag nagkabangaan,

**xtian119** · May 23rd, 2011 11:40 AM

Ang alam ko sir dapat hindi niyo i-surrender ung drivers license nung gf niyo. Dahil hindi niyo naman tinakbuhan ung nabangga niyo and nag-usap kayo ng maayos. Style lang ng pulis yan para magka-pera.

**vh3r** · May 23rd, 2011 12:31 PM

based on my experience ng mabangga ako sa makati.

punta kami sa police station kasama ng driver ng taxi tapos kukunin talaga license nyo pati or/cr ng kotse nyo para magawan kayo ng police report.

then sasabihin sa inyo ng police kung gusto nyo nalang mag areglo or kung gusto nyo magkasuhan.

kung areglo release kaagad police report while kung magkakasuhan naman kayo eh di ko na alam kasi areglo lang kami dati.

tapos sabi ng police dapat ticket daw kami dahil meron naman talaga violations yun kapag nag banggaan kayo pero di na kami natiketan sabi nya na ingat nalang sa susunod so mabait yung police pero nabanggit nya na 500 yun ticket just in case.

syempre wala naman nagastos kaya inabutan ko nalang ng pang merienda si mamang police para naman sa magandang pagaasikaso sa amin.

and btw picture naman eh required talaga pero doon mismo sa place kung saan kayo nabangga at dapat yung enforcer naman na nag asikaso sa inyo eh gumawa na kaagad ng report ng pangyayari at yun ang pag babasehan ng police since wala sila doon sa area ng banggaan.

Originally Posted by obet_carlos

mga sirs, tanong ko lang kung may nabangga na sa pasay city.. kasi last time kumuha kami ng police report eh nagkagulo gulo.. so here's the story:

we were parked at cartimar during a sunday so maraming tao.. aalis na kami, eh nakaharap yung kotse namin sa parking so paatras ako.. i was looking at the rear view mirror, may honda civic, then umandar, so umatras ako.. i was about to look at the side mirror then bang.. nabanga ko.. meron parking aid na walang ginawa.. sinabi pa niya na baka maaksidente pa siya kung lumapit siya sa kotse para katukin or something.. slight lang yung bangga nung civic, konteng gasgas lang kasi most of the damage was absorbed by my gf car's bumper.. vios.. pero medyo bago so gusto casa.. walang problem, i admitted it was my fault then i said na mag pa pulis report for insurance claims.. ang tagal namin nagantay ng police pero trafic aid lang dumating at pinasunod kami sa police station sa may cuneta.. kinuwento namin sa pulis yung nangyari.. so yun, ginawa kami ng pulis report.. tapos pinabalik kami the next day, dalhin daw namin yung estimate at proof of insurance before ibigay pulis report.. do they really need that? dati naman bigay lang kaagad.. sumunod lang kami kasi pulis.. then pictures ng bangga.. siyempre sila nagpicture.. siningil kami ng 300 per car.. so 600 binayad ko.. sobrang mahal pero nagcomply pa din kami.. they gave us a receipt na walang nakasulat na pasay or something.. yung nabibili lang sa bangketa.. sige lang.. since car ng gf ko, company car, siya yung pinalabas na nagdrive.. then pinaiwan sa amin yung license niya, kunin daw namin the next day pag kuha ng pulis report.. akala ko parang claim stub, yun pala ticket na (nalaman ko lang nung kukunin na yung license).. we even asked, "chief may babayaran pa ba kami?".. kasi libre naman yung pulis report sa pagkakaalam ko.. sabi niya wala.. ok na..

we came back the next day with the necessary papers.. binigay na samin yung pulis report.. then pinaclaim na samin yung license sa claiming section sa other side.. pinasamahan pa kami dun sa parang receptionist nila na lalaki, hindi man lang kami kinausap, wala man lang sinabi kaya bumalik kami.. kasi malay ba namin na dun yung claim.. sabi lang sundan.. so pagbalik namin sa claim section, binigay namin yung ticket.. nagaantay kami.. yung mga ibang kinuhanan ng license nandun, sinisingil, 250 or 500.. depende sa violation.. tapos nung sa amin na.. sabi 2k daw babayaran namin.. so medyo nagulat kami.. tinatawagan namin yun pulis kasi umalis na, ayaw kami kausapin.. we were bewildered kung bakit kami magbabayad.. wala naman kaming violation.. tapos may city ordinance sila dun, which goes something like this: "accident resulting to damaged property".. 2k.. parang wtf!? tama ba to? siyempre naginit na dugo ni gf.. medyo tinira na yung mga pulis.. parang kaya nawawalan kami ng respeto sa inyo.. eh may isang g*go na pulis, pinatulan pa yung gf ko.. nakipagsagutan pa.. ayaw talaga ibigay yung license, so iniwan namin.. and we were not paying 2k for a BS rule.. does this ordinance mean that is i accidentally rear ended my gate if i live in pasay, i would have to pay pasay city 2k? tapos when we came back, umalis na yung pulis na nag issue nung ticket..

we came back the following day, with some back up.. my mom had a piscal friend in pasay.. sabi nung piscal, kung ordinansa wala tayo magagawa, pero sumama siya to clarify it.. wala pang sinasabi yung piscal, nakita pa lang.. nagbatian pa lang, binigay na yung license ng gf ko.. ganun lang pala kasimple eh pinatagal pa.. sobrang lame nung PR nila.. akala mo sinong magagaling na mga pulis! ang ayos ayos ng pagsunod namin tapos mang g*go lang sila..

i just have a few questions:
1. what should really happen when makabanga ako?
2. how much should i pay? am i required to get the photos from the police?
3. does pasay really have this stupid ordinance? i mean mas mahal pa to kesa drinking under the influence and driving without a license..
4. do they need the proof of insurance and estimate?

**badsekktor** · May 23rd, 2011 03:31 PM

curious lang ako... anong traffic violation daw yun? saka yun damage to property eh civil case yun di ba? so kung nagka-areglo na kayo nung nabangga mo bakit ka pa magbabayad sa pulis?

**boybi** · May 23rd, 2011 03:39 PM

There's a traffic violation called "involved in an accident". Surrender talaga dapat ang driver's license everytime na may accident. But usually, hindi na pinapa-surrender ng police if nagkaroon na ng settlement.

**Ry_Tower** · May 23rd, 2011 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by vh3r

based on my experience ng mabangga ako sa makati.

punta kami sa police station kasama ng driver ng taxi tapos kukunin talaga license nyo pati or/cr ng kotse nyo para magawan kayo ng police report.

then sasabihin sa inyo ng police kung gusto nyo nalang mag areglo or kung gusto nyo magkasuhan.

kung areglo release kaagad police report while kung magkakasuhan naman kayo eh di ko na alam kasi areglo lang kami dati.

tapos sabi ng police dapat ticket daw kami dahil meron naman talaga violations yun kapag nag banggaan kayo pero di na kami natiketan sabi nya na ingat nalang sa susunod so mabait yung police pero nabanggit nya na 500 yun ticket just in case.

syempre wala naman nagastos kaya inabutan ko nalang ng pang merienda si mamang police para naman sa magandang pagaasikaso sa amin.

and btw picture naman eh required talaga pero doon mismo sa place kung saan kayo nabangga at dapat yung enforcer naman na nag asikaso sa inyo eh gumawa na kaagad ng report ng pangyayari at yun ang pag babasehan ng police since wala sila doon sa area ng banggaan.

Sa picture, yung taken by the police or authorized photographer lang ang tinatanggap sa court AFAIK due to photoshop thing. Pero sa video, kahit cam video puwede na. Vid eh.

Lalo na kung may sounds pa.

**ans_lim168** · May 24th, 2011 07:28 AM

Clearly this is another money making scheme, the license should be surrendered if there is an accident but will be returned after there is a settlement at the traffic bureau where the accident took place. Pictures will be taken, and a police report would be issued. A fee is collected for the police report and pictures, in Mandaluyong City the police report and the picture is 250 php combined. I would not want to get in an accident there in Pasay, "masakit pala sa bulsa diyan pag na-aksidente, punta lang ng MOA mas malaki pa ang napunta sa mga buwaya kesa paglibang."

It's a good thing you have a fiscal friend in Pasay, otherwise you have to pay the 2k

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**obet_carlos** · May 24th, 2011 08:19 AM

i have been involved in some fender benders before.. madalas naman, alam kung sino may mali, kaya pulis report lang kailangan for insurance.. nagulat lang ako dun sa pasay, first time ko mabanga dun.. ang alam ko, siyempre papakita niyo driver's license, xerox nila yun, tapos gagawa ng pulis report.. from what i know, libre yung pulis report, yung pictures lang ang kailangan bayaran.. and sa totoo lang wala naman proof na yung pictures galing sa pulis eh.. at magkano lang magpaprint sa mga picture city ng picture? 5 pesos 1 picture tapos singil kami ng 300 per car.. eh mga 6 picture lang yun.. dati 120 siningil sa amin sa QC, both cars..

may city ordinance sa pasay, and it goes something like this : "causing an accident resulting to damaged property" yan yung nakita ko dun sa pinakita sa akin na parang rule book.. 2k yung penalty niyan.. malabo din kasi yung ordinance eh.. yung driving without a license nasa 1k.. pati ata driving under the influence 1k.. overspeeding nga ata 500.. samantalang wala pang 5kph takbo ko..

lesson learned, wag mabanga sa pasay.. :D